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(10-14-2017 11:47 PM)ArQ Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 03:59 PM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 08:26 PM)ArQ Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 02:12 AM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  Syracuse football is coming. I feel sorry for people that don't understand the sleeping giant that is Syracuse and NY football.

Syracuse' comeback has a bad start. Instead of 400 million dollars expansion to three sides they announced in 2015, now they will just spend 205 million dollars on a new roof. Still I think all ACC teams are excited to see Carrier Dome at least get that translucent roof, same as Vikings' new $1.1 billion stadium roof.

You have zero idea what you're talking about. Its cute tho buddy

Look at the time stamp. It was 2016 news. SU has modified their dome renovation plan one more time in 2017.

Syracuse has never modified its plans for the Dome because they never really gave us plans for the Dome. Its been all ideas that they would like for the Dome. But we have never had any solid plans laid out from university itself.
10-15-2017 07:38 AM
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(07-22-2016 08:15 AM)Lou_C Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 07:47 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(07-22-2016 02:12 AM)44AndThe23 Wrote:  Syracuse football is coming. I feel sorry for people that don't understand the sleeping giant that is Syracuse and NY football.

I'd like your chances a lot better if you weren't located in a recruiting desert. Lots of people but not much high school talent in the Northeast.

Agreed. The ceiling at Syracuse is fairly low because of the gargantuan recruiting challenges. I don't think it will be possible for them to recruit at a national title level.

However, there's still plenty of room between that ceiling and where they've spent most of the last couple decades. I think Syracuse football can be relevant again, and agree that would be great for the ACC. And to be honest, great for college football.

Having spent a lot of time in the Syracuse,Watertown, Rome, Rochester areas, I can tell You folks up there are every bit as passionate about Football as anywhere else in the conference. Upstate NY has a lot to offer for recruits to do while going to school up there, far more than what you would do in Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Iowa, Mississippi , and those states recruit well. No reason a great state like NY can bring Them in as well.
10-17-2017 08:31 AM
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New Jersey is full of football talent. If SU can recruit there, they could probably contend.
JMO.
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(10-17-2017 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  New Jersey is full of football talent. If SU can recruit there, they could probably contend.
JMO.

SU has been recruiting very well in Jersey, even taking some of the top recruits over Rutgers
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(10-17-2017 11:39 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  New Jersey is full of football talent. If SU can recruit there, they could probably contend.
JMO.

SU has been recruiting very well in Jersey, even taking some of the top recruits over Rutgers

Beating Rutgers in a recruiting battle isn't something I'd brag about.
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(10-17-2017 12:11 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 11:39 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  New Jersey is full of football talent. If SU can recruit there, they could probably contend.
JMO.

SU has been recruiting very well in Jersey, even taking some of the top recruits over Rutgers

Beating Rutgers in a recruiting battle isn't something I'd brag about.

Wasnt bragging about it. Just stating a fact. But one would think the local school also being a BIG school would be able to prevent an out of state school like Syracuse from signing some key recruits.
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(10-17-2017 12:21 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 12:11 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 11:39 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  New Jersey is full of football talent. If SU can recruit there, they could probably contend.
JMO.

SU has been recruiting very well in Jersey, even taking some of the top recruits over Rutgers

Beating Rutgers in a recruiting battle isn't something I'd brag about.

Wasnt bragging about it. Just stating a fact. But one would think the local school also being a BIG school would be able to prevent an out of state school like Syracuse from signing some key recruits.

If Rutgers can move away from the mess of Herrmann, Flood, Rice and Eddie Jordan (that one breaks my heart), it would be a good landing spot for the reason that you name above. Syracuse would have momentum at present in any recruiting battles.
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View this link in Chrome or IE... tell me if you don't think Cuse can be a positive for the ACC
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It would be nice to see Syracuse get back to its football glory days. I remember NCSU beating Syracuse in the McNabb days and that was considered a huge win at the Carrier dome for the NCSU Football History. Wish we had the storied history for Cuse. Hope Dino will stay there for you all.
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(10-17-2017 07:30 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  It would be nice to see Syracuse get back to its football glory days. I remember NCSU beating Syracuse in the McNabb days and that was considered a huge win at the Carrier dome for the NCSU Football History. Wish we had the storied history for Cuse. Hope Dino will stay there for you all.

Dino staying long term is the key. While recognizing the realities of big time college football, (and that even Finebaum said yesterday he thinks Dino's gone soon) I actually think our chances of keeping him are higher than some may think. With Marrone, despite his claims that SU was his "dream" job, about half of us knew he really wanted to be a head coach in the NFL. He disliked the fickleness of recruits and hated fundraising events.

Babers appears to have no NFL aspirations and, more importantly, he appears to be a "system guy". He is in it to demonstrate the system can win (and win consistently despite certain drawbacks at the institution itself) and he seems to believe it's a system that works best in a dome and being played on turf.

Still, SU fans know in our hearts that if the university doesn't continue to invest in the program, he will look elsewhere at some point.

So we shall see. But no matter what the future brings, we are lucky to have him now. Love the fact that even after upsetting the defending national champion and #2 Clemson Tigers he stresses that we don't want those wins to be the exception. He wants to see us consistently take on and beat Top 25 teams.

Cheers,
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(10-17-2017 11:39 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  New Jersey is full of football talent. If SU can recruit there, they could probably contend.
JMO.

SU has been recruiting very well in Jersey, even taking some of the top recruits over Rutgers

Growing up in northern New Jersey, Syracuse was the closest thing we had to a local college football program.
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(10-18-2017 09:45 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 11:39 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  New Jersey is full of football talent. If SU can recruit there, they could probably contend.
JMO.

SU has been recruiting very well in Jersey, even taking some of the top recruits over Rutgers

Growing up in northern New Jersey, Syracuse was the closest thing we had to a local college football program.
I grew up in central New Jersey where Notre Dame was everyone's home team.
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(10-17-2017 08:31 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Having spent a lot of time in the Syracuse, Watertown, Rome, Rochester areas, I can tell You folks up there are every bit as passionate about Football as anywhere else in the conference. Upstate NY has a lot to offer for recruits to do while going to school up there, far more than what you would do in Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Iowa, Mississippi , and those states recruit well. No reason a great state like NY can bring Them in as well.

I'm originally from Watertown. I don't remember football being very popular. I still have relatives there and Syracuse basketball is a religion. Syracuse football is little more than a box score. They do follow the NFL and other pro teams pretty closely. I'm not saying there are not college football fans there, Syracuse does fill the dome, I just don't think the area is as "passionate" as southern states.
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(10-20-2017 09:25 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 08:31 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Having spent a lot of time in the Syracuse, Watertown, Rome, Rochester areas, I can tell You folks up there are every bit as passionate about Football as anywhere else in the conference. Upstate NY has a lot to offer for recruits to do while going to school up there, far more than what you would do in Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Iowa, Mississippi , and those states recruit well. No reason a great state like NY can bring Them in as well.

I'm originally from Watertown. I don't remember football being very popular. I still have relatives there and Syracuse basketball is a religion. Syracuse football is little more than a box score. They do follow the NFL and other pro teams pretty closely. I'm not saying there are not college football fans there, Syracuse does fill the dome, I just don't think the area is as "passionate" as southern states.

I have found that SU basketball has way more interest than SU football. But there are a lot of SU football fans. Many of the BB fans have a casual interest in SU fb. This is the case all over Upstate. In Syracuse, Rochester, Utica, Binghamton and Rome areas you will find a much greater concentration of football fans who have more than a casual interest, than elsewhere.
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(10-19-2017 03:25 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  
(10-18-2017 09:45 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 11:39 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 10:35 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  New Jersey is full of football talent. If SU can recruit there, they could probably contend.
JMO.

SU has been recruiting very well in Jersey, even taking some of the top recruits over Rutgers

Growing up in northern New Jersey, Syracuse was the closest thing we had to a local college football program.
I grew up in central New Jersey where Notre Dame was everyone's home team.

Or State Penn. If you grew up in the 50s perhaps Princeton or Penn, but the Ivy de-emphasized football.
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