http://collegefootball.ap.org/top-100

69. Rice
72. Southern Miss
91. Marshall


This is extremely important and meaningful

Woo-hoo! #99! Go Tribe!

And you're right - trying to create something objective by awarding points based on the subjective polls is meaningless. Let's say Alabama starts the season ranked #3. If they lose three times throughout the year (spread out), they probably drop to #23. They get all of the points. Meanwhile, a team like Arkansas State might go 12-0 and not get ranked until the last two weeks of the season, even if they end up ranked higher at #18. Alabama just got 12 points and Arkansas State got 2. That's idiotic. Pollsters are incredibly biased. And you better believe if it comes down to ranking UNC-CHeat #25 or Marshall #25, UNC-CHeat will get the nod from the majority of pollsters because of their name, even if they aren't the better team. Cheat would get points and Marshall wouldn't. Now try that same system with a lot of Michigan's and Notre Dame's borderline years. Michigan has won one national title since 1948. They were voted national champs in 1997 under Lloyd Carr. Until then, Princeton had won a national title more recently than they had. Still, we saw Michigan get the benefit of the doubt repeatedly and plummet after several losses. They still got points in those years.

(08-02-2016 02:42 PM)07owl Wrote:  http://collegefootball.ap.org/top-100

69. Rice
72. Southern Miss
91. Marshall


This is extremely important and meaningful

Que the sarcasm, Maybe for the top 30. If you notice after 60 quite a few of those schools dont even play FBS anymore and does Santa Clara even have football?

(08-02-2016 03:14 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:42 PM)07owl Wrote:  http://collegefootball.ap.org/top-100

69. Rice
72. Southern Miss
91. Marshall


This is extremely important and meaningful

Que the sarcasm, Maybe for the top 30. If you notice after 60 quite a few of those schools dont even play FBS anymore and does Santa Clara even have football?

You'll notice Iowa Pre-Flight. Now that's a school that accomplished a helluva lot in its 3 years of existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Pre-F...s_football

Not bad seeing as how we have only been FBS since 1997.

I think it would have been more fair to only use the final end of the season polls.

(08-02-2016 03:54 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Not bad seeing as how we have only been FBS since 1997.

I think it would have been more fair to only use the final end of the season polls.

Actually Marshall was FBS (IA) from 1962 to 1981 and then dropped down to IAA in 1982 before moving back up in 1997. Of course, from '62-81 Marshall only had one winning season so they must have just ignored that disastrous 20 years in their data compilations.

ECU #88? If you listen to their fans you'd think they were one of the all-time greats.

How USM breaks down on that list

Teams USM has beat:

4 . Alabama
6 . Nebraska
9. Florida State
11. LSU
15. Georgia
16. Auburn
23. Pittsburg
29. Mississippi
31. Virginia Tech
34. BYU
39. TCU
42. Army
43. Oklahoma State
46. Miss State
49. Houston
51. Illinois
52. Virginia
55. SMU
56. NC State
60. Navy
62. Louisville
63. Kansas
69. Rice
70. Tulane
77. Tulsa
77. Colorado State
81. Cincinnati
88. ECU
91. Marshall
93. Hawaii
94. USF
95. Villanova
96. NIU
99. Nevada
99. Bowling Green

Teams on the list USM has played, but not beat:

10. Florida
12. Penn State
14. Tennessee
18. Texas A&M
20. Washington
21. Arkansas
35. Missouri
45. California
48. South Carolina
61. Boise State
64. Utah
68. Kentucky
72. Indiana

(08-02-2016 10:06 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  How USM breaks down on that list

Teams USM has beat:

4 . Alabama
6 . Nebraska
9. Florida State
11. LSU
15. Georgia
16. Auburn
23. Pittsburg
29. Mississippi
31. Virginia Tech
34. BYU
39. TCU
42. Army
43. Oklahoma State
46. Miss State
49. Houston
51. Illinois
52. Virginia
55. SMU
56. NC State
60. Navy
62. Louisville
63. Kansas
69. Rice
70. Tulane
77. Tulsa
77. Colorado State
81. Cincinnati
88. ECU
91. Marshall
93. Hawaii
94. USF
95. Villanova
96. NIU
99. Nevada
99. Bowling Green

Teams on the list USM has played, but not beat:

10. Florida
12. Penn State
14. Tennessee
18. Texas A&M
20. Washington
21. Arkansas
35. Missouri
45. California
48. South Carolina
61. Boise State
64. Utah
68. Kentucky
72. Indiana

I hope you destroy uk. Is that a guarantee game?

(08-02-2016 11:07 PM)LeeistheKey Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:06 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  How USM breaks down on that list

Teams USM has beat:

4 . Alabama
6 . Nebraska
9. Florida State
11. LSU
15. Georgia
16. Auburn
23. Pittsburg
29. Mississippi
31. Virginia Tech
34. BYU
39. TCU
42. Army
43. Oklahoma State
46. Miss State
49. Houston
51. Illinois
52. Virginia
55. SMU
56. NC State
60. Navy
62. Louisville
63. Kansas
69. Rice
70. Tulane
77. Tulsa
77. Colorado State
81. Cincinnati
88. ECU
91. Marshall
93. Hawaii
94. USF
95. Villanova
96. NIU
99. Nevada
99. Bowling Green

Teams on the list USM has played, but not beat:

10. Florida
12. Penn State
14. Tennessee
18. Texas A&M
20. Washington
21. Arkansas
35. Missouri
45. California
48. South Carolina
61. Boise State
64. Utah
68. Kentucky
72. Indiana

I hope you destroy uk. Is that a guarantee game?

No. Home and home contract.

(08-02-2016 11:07 PM)LeeistheKey Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 10:06 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  How USM breaks down on that list

Teams USM has beat:

4 . Alabama
6 . Nebraska
9. Florida State
11. LSU
15. Georgia
16. Auburn
23. Pittsburg
29. Mississippi
31. Virginia Tech
34. BYU
39. TCU
42. Army
43. Oklahoma State
46. Miss State
49. Houston
51. Illinois
52. Virginia
55. SMU
56. NC State
60. Navy
62. Louisville
63. Kansas
69. Rice
70. Tulane
77. Tulsa
77. Colorado State
81. Cincinnati
88. ECU
91. Marshall
93. Hawaii
94. USF
95. Villanova
96. NIU
99. Nevada
99. Bowling Green

Teams on the list USM has played, but not beat:

10. Florida
12. Penn State
14. Tennessee
18. Texas A&M
20. Washington
21. Arkansas
35. Missouri
45. California
48. South Carolina
61. Boise State
64. Utah
68. Kentucky
72. Indiana

I hope you destroy uk. Is that a guarantee game?

It is a game, that is guaranteed.

(08-02-2016 03:24 PM)TribeNiner Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 03:14 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:42 PM)07owl Wrote:  http://collegefootball.ap.org/top-100

69. Rice
72. Southern Miss
91. Marshall


This is extremely important and meaningful

Que the sarcasm, Maybe for the top 30. If you notice after 60 quite a few of those schools dont even play FBS anymore and does Santa Clara even have football?

You'll notice Iowa Pre-Flight. Now that's a school that accomplished a helluva lot in its 3 years of existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Pre-F...s_football

To be fair, it will take Charlotte 25-30 years to rack up a list of more impressive wins than Pre-Flight had in its 3 year existence. Not a knock on Charlotte, but those were some tough schedules (understanding everyone was down talent wise due to the war).

(08-03-2016 10:15 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 03:24 PM)TribeNiner Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 03:14 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:42 PM)07owl Wrote:  http://collegefootball.ap.org/top-100

69. Rice
72. Southern Miss
91. Marshall


This is extremely important and meaningful

Que the sarcasm, Maybe for the top 30. If you notice after 60 quite a few of those schools dont even play FBS anymore and does Santa Clara even have football?

You'll notice Iowa Pre-Flight. Now that's a school that accomplished a helluva lot in its 3 years of existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Pre-F...s_football

To be fair, it will take Charlotte 25-30 years to rack up a list of more impressive wins than Pre-Flight had in its 3 year existence. Not a knock on Charlotte, but those were some tough schedules (understanding everyone was down talent wise due to the war).

I wasn't being sarcastic - that was a helluva lot accomplished in 3 years

This "ranking" annoys me on a lot of levels - "why" AP - voters have been rigging the system for years.

Imagine if we didn't have March Madness but voted the top 8 basketball teams in every year for a special playoff tournament. That's basically what we had/have. That 8 number might be pushing it.

CFN re-ranked them based upon final rankings only: http://collegefootballnews.com/2016/ap-c...-all-time.

I prefer it because my Tribe moves up to 87 (and because I think the final rankings are more accurate than the week one rankings, but whatevs...)

(08-03-2016 01:53 PM)TribeNiner Wrote:  CFN re-ranked them based upon final rankings only: http://collegefootballnews.com/2016/ap-c...-all-time.

I prefer it because my Tribe moves up to 87 (and because I think the final rankings are more accurate than the week one rankings, but whatevs...)

We move up to 59 on that one. Thank god for the 40s-50s

I can't see how that's too accurate of a top 100 poll. Kentucky and Tulane are way too high.

(08-03-2016 10:15 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 03:24 PM)TribeNiner Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 03:14 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(08-02-2016 02:42 PM)07owl Wrote:  http://collegefootball.ap.org/top-100

69. Rice
72. Southern Miss
91. Marshall


This is extremely important and meaningful

Que the sarcasm, Maybe for the top 30. If you notice after 60 quite a few of those schools dont even play FBS anymore and does Santa Clara even have football?

You'll notice Iowa Pre-Flight. Now that's a school that accomplished a helluva lot in its 3 years of existence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Pre-F...s_football

To be fair, it will take Charlotte 25-30 years to rack up a list of more impressive wins than Pre-Flight had in its 3 year existence. Not a knock on Charlotte, but those were some tough schedules (understanding everyone was down talent wise due to the war).

Come on, Charlotte has less losses than anybody on that list.

Scoreboard

Marshall's most recent results vs. teams on the list:

L #1 Ohio State 24-21
L #10 Florida 49-14
L #12 Penn State 65-0
L #13 Miami (FL) 31-3
L #14 Tennessee 33-7
L #15 Georgia 13-3
L #19 Michigan State 34-24
W #22 Clemson 13-10
L #24 Wisconsin 51-14
L #29 Mississippi 34-31
L #31 Virginia Tech 29-21
L #33 West Virginia 69-34
W #34 BYU 21-3
W #36 Purdue 41-31
L #38 North Carolina 20-15
W #40 Maryland 31-20
W #42 Army 35-25
L #44 Kansas State 23-7
L #46 Mississippi State 48-0
W #48 South Carolina 24-21
W #49 Houston 44-41
L #55 SMU 31-17
L #56 North Carolina State 33-16
L #61 Boise State 28-24
W #62 Louisville 17-13
L #68 Kentucky 55-0
W #69 Rice 41-14
W #70 Tulane 38-23
W #72 Southern Mississippi 31-10
L #76 Toledo 24-17
W #77 Tulsa 45-34
W #80 Wake Forest 16-6
L #81 Cincinnati 33-10
W #81 Miami (OH) 42-27
W #88 East Carolina 59-28
L #89 Vanderbilt 27-6
L #95 Villanova 24-14
W #96 Northern Illinois 52-23
W #99 William & Mary 36-24
L #99 Bowling Green 44-28

Back in the day the military schools dominated because their players were always in great shape. Now its standard for all players to be in great shape, and the military restrictions have limited the military academies competitiveness.