(11-01-2017 07:52 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Do they sell out the 800 seat arena?

There only home series so far has been UMass and they drew around 700 for each game. Later they host two games against UAH, UMass-Lowell, Princeton, BU and one game vs Quinnipiac at Oceanside. Also have two game series vs Penn St and one game vs QU at Gila River. They also host a tourney in Vegas.

They are on the road alot.

Arizona State's plan for a 5000 seat arena next to their existing Wells Fargo Arena may be approved Thursday. If it is approved, expect the NCHC to be interested in expansion again when that new arena opens.

arizonasports.com/story/1392091/

(01-24-2018 08:55 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Arizona State's plan for a 5000 seat arena next to their existing Wells Fargo Arena may be approved Thursday. If it is approved, expect the NCHC to be interested in expansion again when that new arena opens.

arizonasports.com/story/1392091/

Something miraculous will happen and now the Big Ten will take them.

(01-25-2018 10:40 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 08:55 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Arizona State's plan for a 5000 seat arena next to their existing Wells Fargo Arena may be approved Thursday. If it is approved, expect the NCHC to be interested in expansion again when that new arena opens.

arizonasports.com/story/1392091/

Something miraculous will happen and now the Big Ten will take them.

Just a week ago, there was a tweet by somebody associated with UNLV's club team to watch out for them to go varsity. Arizona St just won their first tournament in Vegas. The UND hocky benefactor's trust is based in Vegas, and some posters say that it could put up money to start a program. That trust has already given UNLV sigificant donations when they started a new med school. Vegas has existing rinks that would work. Arizona St needs a regional rival and UNLV could work.

(01-25-2018 10:49 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 10:40 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 08:55 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Arizona State's plan for a 5000 seat arena next to their existing Wells Fargo Arena may be approved Thursday. If it is approved, expect the NCHC to be interested in expansion again when that new arena opens.

arizonasports.com/story/1392091/

Something miraculous will happen and now the Big Ten will take them.

Just a week ago, there was a tweet by somebody associated with UNLV's club team to watch out for them to go varsity. Arizona St just won their first tournament in Vegas. The UND hocky benefactor's trust is based in Vegas, and some posters say that it could put up money to start a program. That trust has already given UNLV sigificant donations when they started a new med school. Vegas has existing rinks that would work. Arizona St needs a regional rival and UNLV could work.

I recall hearing rumblings on UNLV a 18 months or so ago when the LV Knights got announced. Probably the 2nd most logical of the hot SW cities behind Phoenix to have a college team.

With the interest in college hockey at Arizona St and now maybe UNLV, any chance NAU gets back in the business? On paper, they are the perfect school and with two programs now close enough to compete against, it could work. Plus, it would easily be the marquee program on campus.

(01-26-2018 10:49 AM)Shox Wrote:  With the interest in college hockey at Arizona St and now maybe UNLV, any chance NAU gets back in the business? On paper, they are the perfect school and with two programs now close enough to compete against, it could work. Plus, it would easily be the marquee program on campus.

Lack of proper ice would be the biggest stumbling block. But I'd love it.

(01-26-2018 10:49 AM)Shox Wrote:  With the interest in college hockey at Arizona St and now maybe UNLV, any chance NAU gets back in the business? On paper, they are the perfect school and with two programs now close enough to compete against, it could work. Plus, it would easily be the marquee program on campus.

Well, UNLV has interest, but the athletic department says they require a $25-30 million initial investment and $1.5 million annually to bring in the sport and keep it afloat until it stabilizes. That's basically as close to saying "no" without actually saying it as you'll get. I can't imagine NAU has that kind of money or the support base in place. Considering what a trash heap their non-CC programs are, why would they want to spend that much to compete with ASU and UNLV? Judging by this article, they seem very happy to compete in the ACHA. They're adding a rink to the fieldhouse, and right now it seats 1500, which is way too small for a western NCAA school.
http://azrubberhockey.com/new-rink-at-na...community/

ASU will have a 5000 seat arena complete by Nov. 2020. The NCHC could move before then.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/c...686869002/

http://thesportsdaily.com/2018/06/11/asu...rena-g1w1/

UNLV drew standing room crowds for club hockey team at the Knights practice center. The Knights even built them their own locker room. The Engelstad Foundation, which funded UND’s hockey arena, and has given major gifts to Vegas educational funds and catholic charities, is also underwriting that club team.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2018/aug/23...home-rink/

Will Arizona St ever join a Conference? Thought they were joining the Big 10 but I guess not eh?

(08-24-2018 07:40 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Will Arizona St ever join a Conference? Thought they were joining the Big 10 but I guess not eh?

Only the WCHA has offered so far, but Ariz St rejected them as most of its schools are DII.

When the arena gets built, think the NCHC offers. The Big Ten has flatly rejected their overtures in the past.

The problem is that the NCHC needs two schools, and UNLV could be the second. Miami-O and Western Mich will likely have major problems voting in those two.

On a slightly unrelated note, would Minnesota St, Minn-Duluth, and/or St Coud St be interested in DI for Olympic sports?

(08-24-2018 09:42 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  On a slightly unrelated note, would Minnesota St, Minn-Duluth, and/or St Coud St be interested in DI for Olympic sports?

Minn-Duluth gets very few fans for anything but hockey. The Minnesota State schools don’t have the budget or endowment for DI.

Minnesota State-Mankato has some potential big backers that could support a DI move (the Timberwolves owner built them a new arena) but they would probably have to go Pioneer League in football.

The Dakota schools are fighting with the Minnesota State schools for public enrollment, so I doubt any Dakota school would support a Minnesota State school in the Summit.

St. Cloud should think about it. Their enrollment is dropping. Maybe going D1 might enhance their marketing and attract more students by being "Minnesota's Only Other D1 School". Their football team is a .500 team; they are 2nd fiddle in town to a division 3 school - St. John's. They could go Pioneer and start a fierce rivalry against Drake. St. Cloud is a hockey school. Their hockey buddies at Denver, North Dakota, and Omaha would put in a good word for them in the Summit League. And they have a baseball team which the Summit needs. Hmmm, the Summit picks up another old NCC school; can Augustana be far behind?

UM-Duluth is 3000 students smaller than St. Cloud, and their football team is good (won a natty a few years ago). They are doing good at D2. Plus, they don't have a lot of local competition for students: St. Scholastica (private $) and UW-Superior (80% smaller). Everything else is 150 miles away.

St. Cloud should probably try something. I saw an article that said that full time equivalent students at St. Cloud are likely to drop by 1/3rd from 2010 to 2020. Any Minnesotans have ideas about what's ailing St. Cloud?

(08-24-2018 11:49 PM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  St. Cloud should think about it. Their enrollment is dropping. Maybe going D1 might enhance their marketing and attract more students by being "Minnesota's Only Other D1 School". Their football team is a .500 team; they are 2nd fiddle in town to a division 3 school - St. John's. They could go Pioneer and start a fierce rivalry against Drake. St. Cloud is a hockey school. Their hockey buddies at Denver, North Dakota, and Omaha would put in a good word for them in the Summit League. And they have a baseball team which the Summit needs. Hmmm, the Summit picks up another old NCC school; can Augustana be far behind?

UM-Duluth is 3000 students smaller than St. Cloud, and their football team is good (won a natty a few years ago). They are doing good at D2. Plus, they don't have a lot of local competition for students: St. Scholastica (private $) and UW-Superior (80% smaller). Everything else is 150 miles away.

St. Cloud should probably try something. I saw an article that said that full time equivalent students at St. Cloud are likely to drop by 1/3rd from 2010 to 2020. Any Minnesotans have ideas about what's ailing St. Cloud?

St Cloud St has had a major liberalism PC crisis seemingly for a very long time. Parents are resisting sending their kids there to be indoctrinated. It’s not Evergreen St, but even way back a transsexual was voted in as Homecoming Queen. It’s an anti-establishment school in almost all its endeavors. Meanwhile, the city of St Cloud is very conservative (it was in Michelle Bachman’s district).

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/code-...ch-problem

Metro State Univ in the Twin Cities seems to be growing. Is their growth "siphoning off" students who would have gone to St. Cloud in the past?
Are parents concerned about the PC tone of St. Cloud directing their students towards Mankato?

PS. I came across the tuition costs of college in MN. I might have to rethink what I said in the post above.
UM-Duluth is $5,000 per year more expensive than the state universities (St. Cloud, Bemidji, Mankato, etc.). UM-D is almost $4500 per year more than crossing the bridge to UW-Superior. I recognize that a degree that says "The Univ of Minnesota" will get more looks by potential employers than one that says "Bemidji State". But does one that says "Univ Minn-Duluth" get any more looks than one that says "St. Cloud State"?
They are charging what the market will bear. So apparently the students in that market think so.

In theory a pair of MN schools in the Summit would secure a geographic core in the upper Midwest and potentially make hockey that other conference sport that the league needs. Playing games in Minnesota could be good for the Dakota schools in terms of exposure to potential students in a more populous neighboring state. Plus there is a long history there with the Dakota 4 and those schools.

(08-24-2018 08:18 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Only the WCHA has offered so far, but Ariz St rejected them as most of its schools are DII.

It's probably more because they think the WCHA just isn't that great of a conference. Schools are aware that Bowling Green St and Mankato want out of the WCHA.

(08-24-2018 08:18 PM)NoDak Wrote:  The problem is that the NCHC needs two schools, and UNLV could be the second.

Why would the NCHC want to invite an up-start Nevada-Las Vegas?

(08-25-2018 01:23 PM)MidWestMidMajor Wrote:  Metro State Univ in the Twin Cities seems to be growing. Is their growth "siphoning off" students who would have gone to St. Cloud in the past?
Are parents concerned about the PC tone of St. Cloud directing their students towards Mankato?

PS. I came across the tuition costs of college in MN. I might have to rethink what I said in the post above.
UM-Duluth is $5,000 per year more expensive than the state universities (St. Cloud, Bemidji, Mankato, etc.). UM-D is almost $4500 per year more than crossing the bridge to UW-Superior. I recognize that a degree that says "The Univ of Minnesota" will get more looks by potential employers than one that says "Bemidji State". But does one that says "Univ Minn-Duluth" get any more looks than one that says "St. Cloud State"?
They are charging what the market will bear. So apparently the students in that market think so.

UM-Duluth has expanded their offering to include several engineering degrees and also other professional ones. UM-Duluth has a much more reputable degrees in all areas than the Minn St ones generally, but some Minn St’s might be just as good. The older UMinn’s like Duluth and Morris were accepted into the exclusive MIAC for generations while the MSU’s system schools weren’t touched. Minn St-Mankato has also gotten basic engineering. The MinnSt U system was been about teaching degrees and not many other endeavors, but that’s changed as almost all states get away from basic Normal Schools. Each of the Minn St U’s have their own specialties that they are good at (Minn St-Moorhead seems to a specialty in film making, film study and some fine and creative arts, not that they get a job in it).

Metro St in the Cities is an much older student group that is working on a degree while they work at a job. Maybe that is changing, but the Metro St Minn does not have one main campus and little if any residential dorms.

UND and NDSU just announced their prelimary enrollments and both are down due almost wholly lower Minnesota enrollment. The scuttlebutt was the Minn St system is purposely trying much harder to keep Minnesotans in state. Allowing one Minn St school go DI would be a nightmare politically among the whole system. All the Dakotas don’t want a second Minnesota flagship, which DI in everything might signify. Hockey will suffice for at least three of them. Winona St and Mankato are maybe the ones to watch.