(02-24-2017 11:06 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 05:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  3 no votes keep you out. USA and Troy are hard no votes.

You speak for USA only. So that's one vote ... and from a school that is hardly the most important in the conference.

(02-23-2017 05:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And even they get a real look from the Belt.

Entirely irrelevant points, as no one was suggesting they should join the SB right now. Maybe in 10-20 years they'll be ready.

At that time, you can ask your arbitrary questions. Maybe SA won't even be in the Sun Belt by then, who knows.

(02-23-2017 06:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  UWF has none of that.

But since no one is saying that WF should get an invite today, your analysis is completely invalid. Try again in 10-20 years.

(02-24-2017 01:18 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Anyone who has worked in intercollegiate athletics knows you don't easily draw casual fans across state lines. You would be hard pressed to find any notable number of Memphis Tiger fans across the river in Arkansas that aren't alums and I suspect that the same is true of Idaho and Washington State in Pullman and Moscow and of Toledo across the border in Michigan, probably similar in Kentucky across from Cincinnati.

I know a good number of AState fans in Missouri and Memphis but I've only met one who wasn't an alum and that was a young man who grew up in Jonesboro and took a job in Branson.

I doubt there many South Alabama fans when you cross into Mississippi or Florida and the same would be true of UWF drawing out of Alabama.

Uh ... but let's be real here: there is no such thing as a fan of a Sun Belt school who isn't an alumni or has a direct connection (friend, family, colleague, etc.) to a Sun Belt alumni.

So much ignorance. USA, has a history of support among the local community, including those who did not attend USA. USA has strong support in Southeastern Mississippi, where the largest feeder institution to the school is located.

Again, USA is pretty relevant in the SBC. 45 years of tenure does count. USA doesn't do 'splashy talk' like Mohajir, but I think you'll find that they're influential enough to block UWF. And Troy doesn't want them either. And if another school voted to impose UWF on USA and Troy or Jax State on Troy and Ga State, they probably will retaliate in later votes.

(02-24-2017 07:07 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-24-2017 11:06 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 05:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  3 no votes keep you out. USA and Troy are hard no votes.

You speak for USA only. So that's one vote ... and from a school that is hardly the most important in the conference.

(02-23-2017 05:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And even they get a real look from the Belt.

Entirely irrelevant points, as no one was suggesting they should join the SB right now. Maybe in 10-20 years they'll be ready.

At that time, you can ask your arbitrary questions. Maybe SA won't even be in the Sun Belt by then, who knows.

(02-23-2017 06:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  UWF has none of that.

But since no one is saying that WF should get an invite today, your analysis is completely invalid. Try again in 10-20 years.

(02-24-2017 01:18 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Anyone who has worked in intercollegiate athletics knows you don't easily draw casual fans across state lines. You would be hard pressed to find any notable number of Memphis Tiger fans across the river in Arkansas that aren't alums and I suspect that the same is true of Idaho and Washington State in Pullman and Moscow and of Toledo across the border in Michigan, probably similar in Kentucky across from Cincinnati.

I know a good number of AState fans in Missouri and Memphis but I've only met one who wasn't an alum and that was a young man who grew up in Jonesboro and took a job in Branson.

I doubt there many South Alabama fans when you cross into Mississippi or Florida and the same would be true of UWF drawing out of Alabama.

Uh ... but let's be real here: there is no such thing as a fan of a Sun Belt school who isn't an alumni or has a direct connection (friend, family, colleague, etc.) to a Sun Belt alumni.

So much ignorance. USA, has a history of support among the local community, including those who did not attend USA. USA has strong support in Southeastern Mississippi, where the largest feeder institution to the school is located.

Again, USA is pretty relevant in the SBC. 45 years of tenure does count. USA doesn't do 'splashy talk' like Mohajir, but I think you'll find that they're influential enough to block UWF. And Troy doesn't want them either. And if another school voted to impose UWF on USA and Troy or Jax State on Troy and Ga State, they probably will retaliate in later votes.

Tom,

I disagree with your argument. South Alabama does not control the Pensacola Market. The Biloxi-Mobile - Pensacola media market is pretty good size as far as the number of folks living in the area. Actually, Mobile radio stations can be heard in Ft. Walton.

I believe that a UWF rivalry will lift both schools exposure and bring in more resources. I believe there is enough room for the two schools to share a 1.2 million people media market.

ohh... plus share it with Alabama, Auburn, Florida and Florida State.

I do not believe that USA or Troy will block UWF from getting a SBC invite.

UWF football hires new defensive coordinator

"UWF head football coach Pete Shinnick hired veteran defensive coach Darian Dulin as the team's new defensive coordinator."

http://www.pnj.com/story/sports/2017/02/.../98363352/

(02-27-2017 01:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

You could become a UWF fan and change your name to Panama Beach

(02-27-2017 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

You could become a UWF fan and change your name to Panama Beach

The real Panama is Central America

(02-27-2017 02:22 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

Hey you posted it pal. Not my fault you post non news.

(02-27-2017 02:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

You could become a UWF fan and change your name to Panama Beach

The real Panama is Central America

Don't give them any ideas. Next there will be a Universidad de Panamá to the Sun Belt thread.

They do have 100k students. Not sure if they still play football though.

(02-27-2017 03:04 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

You could become a UWF fan and change your name to Panama Beach

The real Panama is Central America

Don't give them any ideas. Next there will be a Universidad de Panamá to the Sun Belt thread.

Arkansas State is opening a campus in Queretaro, Mexico. Know the campus has a gym because AState has been gathering information on hosting a foreign tournament.

(02-27-2017 02:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

You could become a UWF fan and change your name to Panama Beach

The real Panama is Central America

Yeah, but we would have Panama City and Panama City Beach, Florida cheering for UWF.

(02-27-2017 04:24 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

You could become a UWF fan and change your name to Panama Beach

The real Panama is Central America

Yeah, but we would have Panama City and Panama City Beach, Florida cheering for UWF.

Sorry bub. I am from the international city not the nondescript FL town.

(02-27-2017 04:34 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:24 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:53 PM)panama Wrote:  

You could become a UWF fan and change your name to Panama Beach

The real Panama is Central America

Yeah, but we would have Panama City and Panama City Beach, Florida cheering for UWF.

Sorry bub. I am from the international city not the nondescript FL town.

Nondescript...LOL

Panama, this is about UWF ....not you joing the Sun Belt. LOL

(02-28-2017 07:56 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:34 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:24 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You could become a UWF fan and change your name to Panama Beach

The real Panama is Central America

Yeah, but we would have Panama City and Panama City Beach, Florida cheering for UWF.

Sorry bub. I am from the international city not the nondescript FL town.

Nondescript...LOL

Panama, this is about UWF ....not you joing the Sun Belt. LOL

Did you miss the memo, Panama has already joined the Sun Belt.

(02-28-2017 08:17 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 07:56 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:34 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:24 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:47 PM)panama Wrote:  The real Panama is Central America

Yeah, but we would have Panama City and Panama City Beach, Florida cheering for UWF.

Sorry bub. I am from the international city not the nondescript FL town.

Nondescript...LOL

Panama, this is about UWF ....not you joing the Sun Belt. LOL

Did you miss the memo, Panama has already joined the Sun Belt.

Can you read? The discussion is about UWF not Panama joining Sun Belt.

Panama City and Panama City Beach are about 90 miles west of Pensacola. There are approximately 400,000 people living in the area not including the adjacent counties in Alabama. That means there are approximately 1.8 million people living within 100 miles of Pensacola. That should be a pretty good base to attract support for UWF.

When I was at South, students in adjacent counties from Mississippi were considered in-state students. I believe that Florida had the same arrangement.

UWF has an enrollment of 13,002 and growing and has a 1,600 acre campus

South Alabama's enrollment is 16,699 and growing. The campus sits on 1,244 acres. USA had 14,064 students when the football program started playing in 2009. The schools are comparable. Of course, South has a much higher academic profile.

UWF's enrollment should be at 16,000 in about 5 years with about 16,000 alumni traditionalized (my word) to going to football games and homecoming. The on campus stadium will be a done deal at that point. I can see a 30,000 plus football stadium to host South Alabama and Troy games. Maybe 40,000 if you add games with Navy and Air Force.

(02-28-2017 11:20 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 08:17 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 07:56 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:34 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:24 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Yeah, but we would have Panama City and Panama City Beach, Florida cheering for UWF.

Sorry bub. I am from the international city not the nondescript FL town.

Nondescript...LOL

Panama, this is about UWF ....not you joing the Sun Belt. LOL

Did you miss the memo, Panama has already joined the Sun Belt.

Can you read? The discussion is about UWF not Panama joining Sun Belt.

Panama City and Panama City Beach are about 90 miles west of Pensacola. There are approximately 400,000 people living in the area not including the adjacent counties in Alabama. That means there are approximately 1.8 million people living within 100 miles of Pensacola. That should be a pretty good base to attract support for UWF.

When I was at South, students in adjacent counties from Mississippi were considered in-state students. I believe that Florida had the same arrangement.

UWF has an enrollment of 13,002 and growing and has a 1,600 acre campus

South Alabama's enrollment is 16,699 and growing. The campus sits on 1,244 acres. USA had 14,064 students when the football program started playing in 2009. The schools are comparable. Of course, South has a much higher academic profile.

UWF's enrollment should be at 16,000 in about 5 years with about 16,000 alumni traditionalized (my word) to going to football games and homecoming. The on campus stadium will be a done deal at that point. I can see a 30,000 plus football stadium to host South Alabama and Troy games. Maybe 40,000 if you add games with Navy and Air Force.

Yes I can read. But I will no make a comment on your education level an comprehension skills. I will only post the facts.

UWF has a hell of a ways to go before even being considered for membership in the Sun Belt Conference. If the Sun Belt had to add a new member in the next 4-5 years UWF would not even be on the conferences list. So in the real world that most posters on this message board live in are able to understand these facts. Now 10-20 years from now the facts maybe different but who knows.

I live within one mile of the Georgia State line so I know the facts about students from adjacent counties in other states.

After over 390 posts this subject has been covered.

(02-28-2017 07:56 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:34 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:24 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:47 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  You could become a UWF fan and change your name to Panama Beach

The real Panama is Central America

Yeah, but we would have Panama City and Panama City Beach, Florida cheering for UWF.

Sorry bub. I am from the international city not the nondescript FL town.

Nondescript...LOL

Panama, this is about UWF ....not you joing the Sun Belt. LOL

Just adding some intestate since ...well ..it's bout a school that will not be FBS before 2025 if ever.

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(02-28-2017 08:17 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 07:56 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:34 PM)panama Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:24 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 02:47 PM)panama Wrote:  The real Panama is Central America

Yeah, but we would have Panama City and Panama City Beach, Florida cheering for UWF.

Sorry bub. I am from the international city not the nondescript FL town.

Nondescript...LOL

Panama, this is about UWF ....not you joing the Sun Belt. LOL

Did you miss the memo, Panama has already joined the Sun Belt.

Panama is SEC

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(02-28-2017 11:56 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 11:20 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 08:17 AM)ValleyBoy Wrote:  

(02-28-2017 07:56 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 04:34 PM)panama Wrote:  Sorry bub. I am from the international city not the nondescript FL town.

Nondescript...LOL

Panama, this is about UWF ....not you joing the Sun Belt. LOL

Did you miss the memo, Panama has already joined the Sun Belt.

Can you read? The discussion is about UWF not Panama joining Sun Belt.

Panama City and Panama City Beach are about 90 miles west of Pensacola. There are approximately 400,000 people living in the area not including the adjacent counties in Alabama. That means there are approximately 1.8 million people living within 100 miles of Pensacola. That should be a pretty good base to attract support for UWF.

When I was at South, students in adjacent counties from Mississippi were considered in-state students. I believe that Florida had the same arrangement.

UWF has an enrollment of 13,002 and growing and has a 1,600 acre campus

South Alabama's enrollment is 16,699 and growing. The campus sits on 1,244 acres. USA had 14,064 students when the football program started playing in 2009. The schools are comparable. Of course, South has a much higher academic profile.

UWF's enrollment should be at 16,000 in about 5 years with about 16,000 alumni traditionalized (my word) to going to football games and homecoming. The on campus stadium will be a done deal at that point. I can see a 30,000 plus football stadium to host South Alabama and Troy games. Maybe 40,000 if you add games with Navy and Air Force.

Yes I can read. But I will no make a comment on your education level an comprehension skills. I will only post the facts.

UWF has a hell of a ways to go before even being considered for membership in the Sun Belt Conference. If the Sun Belt had to add a new member in the next 4-5 years UWF would not even be on the conferences list. So in the real world that most posters on this message board live in are able to understand these facts. Now 10-20 years from now the facts maybe different but who knows.

I live within one mile of the Georgia State line so I know the facts about students from adjacent counties in other states.

After over 390 posts this subject has been covered.

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