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RE: Question re: tiebreaker for hosting
(11-03-2016 12:03 PM)TTT Wrote:  This isn't pod play within the conference...this is "best conference record" in each division.

Gotcha, I remember talking about this two years ago now
11-03-2016 12:08 PM
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RE: Question re: tiebreaker for hosting
It's absolutely STUPID for the FIRST tie-breaker NOT to be head-to-head...whether it's for division championship or who host. How do people not understand this??
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(11-03-2016 12:09 PM)TTT Wrote:  It's absolutely STUPID for the FIRST tie-breaker NOT to be head-to-head...whether it's for division championship or who host. How do people not understand this??

That's the way is right?

I was just curious if it was overall conference record or divisional conference record
11-03-2016 12:13 PM
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RE: Question re: tiebreaker for hosting
Tiebreaker
The following tiebreaker formula is recommended for the Conference USA Football Championship
game:
Two-team tie to determine host
1. Highest regular season winning percentage based on overall Conference USA play.
2. If tied, head to head between tied teams.
3. If still tied, team with highest BCS (now "computer") ranking
11-03-2016 12:36 PM
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RE: Question re: tiebreaker for hosting
(11-03-2016 12:36 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  Tiebreaker
The following tiebreaker formula is recommended for the Conference USA Football Championship
game:
Two-team tie to determine host
1. Highest regular season winning percentage based on overall Conference USA play.
2. If tied, head to head between tied teams.
3. If still tied, team with highest BCS (now "computer") ranking

Overall C-USA Play ?

if there is a "tiebreaker" doesn't this imply that there is already a tie within "overall C-USA play"?

In other words, is Number One necessary ?
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RE: Question re: tiebreaker for hosting
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/c-us...braker.pdf

Divisional record is 3rd, behind overall and H2H.
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RE: Question re: tiebreaker for hosting
Two-team or multiple team tie for divisional champion
1. Highest regular season winning percentage based on overall Conference USA play.
2. If tied, head to head between tied teams.
3. If still tied, highest winning percentage within division.
4. If still tied, compare records against divisional opponents in descending order of finish.
5. If still tied, compare records with common cross-divisional opponents.
6. If still tied, compare records against cross-divisional opponents in descending order of
finish.
7. If still tied, team with highest BCS ranking.
8. If still tied, the representative will be the team that has not participated in the championship
game most recently.
9. If at any point the tie is broken in a multiple team tie, the remaining teams will begin the
process again at #2.
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RE: Question re: tiebreaker for hosting
What bothers me is the wording, "recommended"....wtf does "recommended" mean?? Seems like it's left open for interpretation...?? Also, they still have "BCS ranking" as a tie-breaker...isn't the BCS dead??

Tiebreaker
The following tiebreaker formula is recommended for the Conference USA Football Championship
game:
Two-team tie to determine host
1. Highest regular season winning percentage based on overall Conference USA play.
2. If tied, head to head between tied teams.
3. If still tied, team with highest BCS ranking.
11-03-2016 01:11 PM
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RE: Question re: tiebreaker for hosting
(11-03-2016 11:49 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 08:53 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 08:16 AM)TTT Wrote:  
(11-02-2016 02:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(11-02-2016 12:42 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  As much as I would like to play S.Miss in a repeat I do not see them getting out of the West. I think it's very likely Tech wraps up the west before the last game against S. Miss. It wouldn't surprise me to see S. Miss drop a game @ODU or @UNT

That would be the best case scenario for Tech.

In order for Tech to wrap up the west BEFORE their game vs. us this is what has to happen:

La Tech has to beat UNT AND USM would have to lose 2 out of our next 3 games...that's not happening.

The winner of the LT/USM game (which will be USM 05-stirthepot ) will determine the west...UNT could very well beat LT this weekend...USM could very well drop a game to either ODU or UNT...that means it's still going to come down to the LT/USM game.

That is correct. Virtually no way the Tech/USM game isn't for the west title. We will see who wins though. I hope you are wrong on that one point of course.

Are you sure about that?
If USM loses to UNT, USM would 2 west division losses
If Tech beats UNT and UTSA and then losses to USM, Tech would only have 1 west division loss So basically if USM losses @UNT than Tech would be West Diivision Champs regardless of what happens in Hattiesburg. Is this right or wrong?

USM would have 2 losses, but if they beat Tech, Tech would also have 2 losses and USM would have the head to head.

Similarly if Tech loses one before the game we would have 2 losses, but if we beat USM they would also have two losses and we would have the head to head.

I haven't looked at the scenario for NTex or UTSA if we were to go into a 3 or 4 way tie at 2 losses or if that is even possible.
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RE: Question re: tiebreaker for hosting
(11-03-2016 03:10 PM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 11:49 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 08:53 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  
(11-03-2016 08:16 AM)TTT Wrote:  
(11-02-2016 02:30 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  That would be the best case scenario for Tech.

In order for Tech to wrap up the west BEFORE their game vs. us this is what has to happen:

La Tech has to beat UNT AND USM would have to lose 2 out of our next 3 games...that's not happening.

The winner of the LT/USM game (which will be USM 05-stirthepot ) will determine the west...UNT could very well beat LT this weekend...USM could very well drop a game to either ODU or UNT...that means it's still going to come down to the LT/USM game.

That is correct. Virtually no way the Tech/USM game isn't for the west title. We will see who wins though. I hope you are wrong on that one point of course.

Are you sure about that?
If USM loses to UNT, USM would 2 west division losses
If Tech beats UNT and UTSA and then losses to USM, Tech would only have 1 west division loss So basically if USM losses @UNT than Tech would be West Diivision Champs regardless of what happens in Hattiesburg. Is this right or wrong?

USM would have 2 losses, but if they beat Tech, Tech would also have 2 losses and USM would have the head to head.

Similarly if Tech loses one before the game we would have 2 losses, but if we beat USM they would also have two losses and we would have the head to head.

I haven't looked at the scenario for NTex or UTSA if we were to go into a 3 or 4 way tie at 2 losses or if that is even possible.

I dont think 4-way at 2 losses is possible at this point.
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1 game at a time, dawgs!
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