(11-16-2016 11:38 AM)muffinman Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 10:44 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  Regardless of Bannon's personal beliefs, I do find it alarming that so many people are willing to overlook this facet of his media personality. The fact that the American Nazi Party was "pleasantly surprised" by his appointment should raise enormous red flags.

What the alt-right stands for is not something that my Christian upbringing could ever allow me to ignore and I could never condone, and Bannon allowed that rhetoric to be given a platform. The fact that so many can skirt around this issue because it means liberal ideologies will be diminished is sad, in my opinion.

Im still not convinced the alt-right physically exists, and if it does it hardly has any influence.

The most that I can tell is that it exists on the internet only.

The term "alt-right" doesnt seem to have existed before Feb/March of this year. CNN pushed the term and the Hillary campaign picked it up. MSM and Hillary made it into the lefts boogyman. They did this while conveniently ignoring how the SJW (which could be considered "alt-left") was destroying their party. If a alt-right exists, it was as a direct result of the SJW's on the left.

Nonetheless, I find that overall the "alt-right" is more of a populist nationalism-type movement instead of the white supremacist, Isolationist, Islamophobic, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynist group that it is claimed to be. It would appear that existing groups (neo-nazis, etc.) have attached themselves to the "alt-right" banner, but those numbers are small do not represent the movement/group as a whole. Similar to how communists, anarchist, and others have attached themselves to the "alt-left" or SJW movement.

Thanks for engaging in a quality discussion. I tend to agree with lots you said here.

I do think it's dangerous to minimize those smaller groups within a larger populist-nationalist movement that might make up the majority of the alt-right, because some of the messaging has been co-opted by the president-elect. Some of the things that Trump said during his campaign emboldened the worst aspects of the alt-right - ones that we can hopefully all agree are problematic.

(11-16-2016 12:03 PM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 11:38 AM)muffinman Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 10:44 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  Regardless of Bannon's personal beliefs, I do find it alarming that so many people are willing to overlook this facet of his media personality. The fact that the American Nazi Party was "pleasantly surprised" by his appointment should raise enormous red flags.

What the alt-right stands for is not something that my Christian upbringing could ever allow me to ignore and I could never condone, and Bannon allowed that rhetoric to be given a platform. The fact that so many can skirt around this issue because it means liberal ideologies will be diminished is sad, in my opinion.

Im still not convinced the alt-right physically exists, and if it does it hardly has any influence.

The most that I can tell is that it exists on the internet only.

The term "alt-right" doesnt seem to have existed before Feb/March of this year. CNN pushed the term and the Hillary campaign picked it up. MSM and Hillary made it into the lefts boogyman. They did this while conveniently ignoring how the SJW (which could be considered "alt-left") was destroying their party. If a alt-right exists, it was as a direct result of the SJW's on the left.

Nonetheless, I find that overall the "alt-right" is more of a populist nationalism-type movement instead of the white supremacist, Isolationist, Islamophobic, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynist group that it is claimed to be. It would appear that existing groups (neo-nazis, etc.) have attached themselves to the "alt-right" banner, but those numbers are small do not represent the movement/group as a whole. Similar to how communists, anarchist, and others have attached themselves to the "alt-left" or SJW movement.

Thanks for engaging in a quality discussion. I tend to agree with lots you said here.

I do think it's dangerous to minimize those smaller groups within a larger populist-nationalist movement that might make up the majority of the alt-right, because some of the messaging has been co-opted by the president-elect. Some of the things that Trump said during his campaign emboldened the worst aspects of the alt-right - ones that we can hopefully all agree are problematic.

Sure, you cannot completely ignore smaller groups within a larger movement. That is how the Hitler & the Nazi's rose to power through a larger German nationalistic movement.

You have to make sure you limit these groups influence over a movement as a whole, otherwise you risk the chance to corrupt the ideals of a larger movement.

It is up to the members of the alt-right and others in this country to make sure that fascism and other awful ideologies are contained and do not spread.

(11-16-2016 10:33 AM)hoopfan Wrote:  look....Harry Reid said to fire him. That means he is the best possible hire yet.

I have to admit...That is enough for me. I cant think of anything Reid ever did that I approved of. Nothing.

(11-16-2016 11:50 AM)EagleX Wrote:  I guess you liberals haven't realized it, but sliming people with whom you have a political disagreement as racists, sexists, homophobes, & etc is one of the things that died a bloody, screaming death on november 8th.

you lost. thought crime is dead. we got our language back.

What part of the language did you get back exactly?

(11-16-2016 03:04 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 11:50 AM)EagleX Wrote:  I guess you liberals haven't realized it, but sliming people with whom you have a political disagreement as racists, sexists, homophobes, & etc is one of the things that died a bloody, screaming death on november 8th.

you lost. thought crime is dead. we got our language back.

What part of the language did you get back exactly?

Mods just took it away again.

(11-16-2016 10:34 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Alex Jones for press secretary!!!

Infowars should at least get White House press credentials.

(11-16-2016 03:49 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(11-16-2016 10:34 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Alex Jones for press secretary!!!

Infowars should at least get White House press credentials.

The reptilian illuminati would never allow that sadly.