(12-31-2016 03:30 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  You don't understand business

Of course I do, even better than you I bet.

(12-31-2016 03:34 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  If they are up 14% target *should* be in that neighborhood.

Nonsense.

Couple different ways to go with that:

i) it just means that the corrupt world of speculating on stock prices didn't favor Target's stock, which no doubt could be an illegal retaliation scheme against the company

ii) Target certainly could've performed worse than Walmart ... but that has provably nothing to do with bathroom policy. How many people even use the bathroom facilities when they shop at Target? 3% ???

Minnesota actually offers a good business environment. They have good investment in their rural areas as well.

lol, I see that regressive cucks are beginning to really struggle to find 'wins' after their ideology was thoroughly rejected/defeated this election cycle.

It'll hurt, but allow me to bring some facts into this thread. Target is (still) down 13.41% since their LGBT debacle. In the same time, the Dow is up about 10%. There's no spinning it. TGT is just as much of a loser for investors as it is for women's rights and privacy.

(12-31-2016 03:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Minnesota actually offers a good business environment. They have good investment in their rural areas as well.

Minnesota has a relatively backward set of business codes.

(12-31-2016 04:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 03:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Minnesota actually offers a good business environment. They have good investment in their rural areas as well.

Minnesota has a relatively backward set of business codes.

For whatever reason it's not hurting them. Well below the national average of unemployment.

(12-31-2016 04:39 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 04:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 03:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Minnesota actually offers a good business environment. They have good investment in their rural areas as well.

Minnesota has a relatively backward set of business codes.

For whatever reason it's not hurting them. Well below the national average of unemployment.

No doubt that being in close proximity to the Dakotas helps.

(12-31-2016 03:39 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  it just means that the corrupt world of speculating on stock prices didn't favor Target's stock, which no doubt could be an illegal retaliation scheme against the company

But what does Mr Tinkle have to say?

Quote:Target certainly could've performed worse than Walmart ... but that has provably nothing to do with bathroom policy. How many people even use the bathroom facilities when they shop at Target? 3% ???

Targets problem was not their bathroom policy. I said at the time, and I maintain it today, their problem was how they communicated the policy.

All they had to do was say

"In some states the law requires that a store does not prevent trans-gendered people from using the restroom of their choice, so Target will implement that policy nation wide. We understand that some people will be uncomfortable with this policy and we encourage those people to use our family restrooms"..

But they did not... They took a shaq on their customers

They dismissed any concerns some people might have about the policy as bigotry which, true or not, is as stupid as calling half the demos "deplorables". You don't spit in peoples eyes if you can avoid it.

more than a million people decided to stop using target and their company ended up having to sink millions into single stall bathrooms as they try to extricate themselves from a mess of their own making.

(12-31-2016 03:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Minnesota actually offers a good business environment. They have good investment in their rural areas as well.

For now, and despite themselves, this holds up as true.

(12-31-2016 05:04 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 04:39 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 04:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 03:40 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Minnesota actually offers a good business environment. They have good investment in their rural areas as well.

Minnesota has a relatively backward set of business codes.

For whatever reason it's not hurting them. Well below the national average of unemployment.

No doubt that being in close proximity to the Dakotas helps.

There are a pretty large number of fortune 500's here and the associated businesses help a lot.

(12-31-2016 04:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Target is (still) down 13.41% since their LGBT debacle.

Arbitrary cherry picking. The stock price is the same today as it was a year ago, so it's not down at all.

(12-31-2016 05:43 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Targets problem was not their bathroom policy. I said at the time, and I maintain it today, their problem was how they communicated the policy.

Well I'm glad you agree that Target's bathroom policy is reasonable. It is indeed.

(12-31-2016 05:43 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  All they had to do was say

"In some states the law requires that a store does not prevent trans-gendered people from using the restroom of their choice, so Target will implement that policy nation wide. We understand that some people will be uncomfortable with this policy and we encourage those people to use our family restrooms"

That's what it said ...

A big company in MN is UnitedHealthGroup. They are the parent company of one of those evil insurance companies UHC

(12-31-2016 07:13 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 04:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Target is (still) down 13.41% since their LGBT debacle.

Arbitrary cherry picking. The stock price is the same today as it was a year ago, so it's not down at all.

You're obviously trolling (because you can't possibly be that dumb), but it's actually the precise opposite of arbitrary. I pinpointed the exact date of the event in question. TGT being flat from 1/1/16 to 1/1/17 (or more precisely, -13.41% still since implementing their policy) when the rest of the market is up significantly over both stretches tells you everything. Remove the toxic LGBT issue from TGT, and they would be enjoying the same gains as everyone else.

Alas, they're ran by regressive cucks and virtue signaling to 0.000whatever% of the population obviously means more to them than doing what's best for their shareholders and stakeholders.

(12-31-2016 07:13 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 04:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Target is (still) down 13.41% since their LGBT debacle.

Arbitrary cherry picking. The stock price is the same today as it was a year ago, so it's not down at all.

Add "Arbitrary" to the list of words Mpls does not fully grasp. There is nothing Arbitrary about the date a company made an LGBT announcement when discussing the effect of that policy on their business..

Quote:

(12-31-2016 05:43 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Targets problem was not their bathroom policy. I said at the time, and I maintain it today, their problem was how they communicated the policy.

Well I'm glad you agree that Target's bathroom policy is reasonable. It is indeed.

If you go back in the forum history you'll see that I said it would not stop me from shopping there (Bull_In_Exile). I just said is was moronic to make an issue of something that did not have to be an issue.

Target decided to virtue signal one side, shame the other, and they reaped the whirlwind because of it.

Quote:

(12-31-2016 05:43 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  All they had to do was say

"In some states the law requires that a store does not prevent trans-gendered people from using the restroom of their choice, so Target will implement that policy nation wide. We understand that some people will be uncomfortable with this policy and we encourage those people to use our family restrooms"

That's what it said ...

No. That's not what they said. As I've said you have *no* head for business if you read targets releases regarding transgenders and bathrooms and think it's the same as what I've put down.

They made it about virtue hoping to get great press. Instead they got a huge boycott that costs them millions in market cap.

The person who crafted that memo should be fired... out of a cannon... into the sun... for costing Target huge money.

Only good things ahead for Minny since the Republicans now control both houses of the legislature.

It remains to be see if the Democratic governor wants to govern or obstruct.

(12-31-2016 07:19 PM)solohawks Wrote:  A big company in MN is UnitedHealthGroup. They are the parent company of one of those evil insurance companies UHC

I doubt there is any company in Minn bigger than 3M. 90,000 employees and 30 billion in sales.

I've held 3M forever. Great company

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(01-01-2017 12:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 07:19 PM)solohawks Wrote:  A big company in MN is UnitedHealthGroup. They are the parent company of one of those evil insurance companies UHC

I doubt there is any company in Minn bigger than 3M. 90,000 employees and 30 billion in sales.

Cargill is up there too but they are private. I don't think they are bigger than 3m but they add quite a bit to Minn economy

The State of Minnesota is as pathetic as its football team. There.

(12-31-2016 03:01 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Having your stock a single penny higher after one year is not something to celebrate... How much money did their stupid stand on bathrooms cost them...

Yeah, I was wondering if anyone else caught that. That's a terrible investment.

(01-02-2017 08:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 03:01 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Having your stock a single penny higher after one year is not something to celebrate... How much money did their stupid stand on bathrooms cost them...

Yeah, I was wondering if anyone else caught that. That's a terrible investment.

Yea, you're damn neat 12 month CD rates. Targets stock went up 1.0003% on the year. You can buy 12 month CD's with about 1.25% return.

IOW you would have been better off buying a CD than investing in Target this past year and the Bathroom fiasco is likely the only reason that statement is true.