So glad to see the liberals in this thread patting each other on the back. Just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

(01-28-2017 05:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:54 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Safety first my ass. If this was about safety, Egypt and Saudi Arabia would be apart of the list. This is just pandering.

Yep.

This is about Trump's inexperience with the Presidency, and his mad desire to implement as many of his campaign promises as humanly possible in the first week in office. And his desire to continue to make money off Saudi Arabia who basically state sponsors terrorism but gets no backlash because they have money.

He's risking a war with an entire religion if he's not careful.

Islam has been at war with the western world for as long as I can remember, but you have kept your eyes closed.


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(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:46 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Good. America's safety comes first.

Lets protect ourselves from an overseas enemy who already has so many covert operatives in the United States right now it's not funny.

Great plan. He's doing exactly what ISIS wants him to do.

Nonsense.

He traffics in that stuff.

(01-28-2017 04:50 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  You know I get what Trump is trying to do but this was poorly planned and causing way to much chaos. Iran just issued a ban on U.S. citizens with other countries soon to follow.

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Oh crap, what am I going to do for Spring Break now?

We will see if this keeps us safe.

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(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:46 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Good. America's safety comes first.

Lets protect ourselves from an overseas enemy who already has so many covert operatives in the United States right now it's not funny.

Great plan. He's doing exactly what ISIS wants him to do.

Nonsense.

ISIS has been perpetuating the belief to the few of muslims who will listen to them that the West hates Islam and is trying to convert them all. By shutting the doors to refugees from Islamic countries, the US is basically admitting that they don't trust Islam. More people are thus more likely to listen to their own propaganda, or the propaganda of other terrorist groups.

All in the name of some sort of mythical safety that only protects Americans from immigrants of specific countries, and not others.

(01-28-2017 05:10 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:54 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Safety first my ass. If this was about safety, Egypt and Saudi Arabia would be apart of the list. This is just pandering.

Yep.

This is about Trump's inexperience with the Presidency, and his mad desire to implement as many of his campaign promises as humanly possible in the first week in office. And his desire to continue to make money off Saudi Arabia who basically state sponsors terrorism but gets no backlash because they have money.

He's risking a war with an entire religion if he's not careful.

Islam has been at war with the western world for as long as I can remember, but you have kept your eyes closed.


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ISIS has been at war. Not Islam. Isis is a very tiny percentage of the actual Islamic population nation wide.

(01-28-2017 05:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:46 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Good. America's safety comes first.

Lets protect ourselves from an overseas enemy who already has so many covert operatives in the United States right now it's not funny.

Great plan. He's doing exactly what ISIS wants him to do.

Nonsense.

ISIS has been perpetuating the belief to the few of muslims who will listen to them that the West hates Islam and is trying to convert them all. By shutting the doors to refugees from Islamic countries, the US is basically admitting that they don't trust Islam. More people are thus more likely to listen to their own propaganda, or the propaganda of other terrorist groups.

All in the name of some sort of mythical safety that only protects Americans from immigrants of specific countries, and not others.

Nonsense.

(01-28-2017 05:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:46 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Good. America's safety comes first.

Lets protect ourselves from an overseas enemy who already has so many covert operatives in the United States right now it's not funny.

Great plan. He's doing exactly what ISIS wants him to do.

Nonsense.

ISIS has been perpetuating the belief to the few of muslims who will listen to them that the West hates Islam and is trying to convert them all. By shutting the doors to refugees from Islamic countries, the US is basically admitting that they don't trust Islam. More people are thus more likely to listen to their own propaganda, or the propaganda of other terrorist groups.

All in the name of some sort of mythical safety that only protects Americans from immigrants of specific countries, and not others.

Well, yeah, you got me. How silly of me to assume that 24 year old muslim Abul Rahman al-hamsammich from Aleppo, Syria might pose a greater threat than 60 year old Alistair Williams from Wales.

(01-28-2017 05:21 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:46 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Good. America's safety comes first.

Lets protect ourselves from an overseas enemy who already has so many covert operatives in the United States right now it's not funny.

Great plan. He's doing exactly what ISIS wants him to do.

Nonsense.

ISIS has been perpetuating the belief to the few of muslims who will listen to them that the West hates Islam and is trying to convert them all. By shutting the doors to refugees from Islamic countries, the US is basically admitting that they don't trust Islam. More people are thus more likely to listen to their own propaganda, or the propaganda of other terrorist groups.

All in the name of some sort of mythical safety that only protects Americans from immigrants of specific countries, and not others.

Nonsense.

Every person the US refuses to take in from Syria or other countries is at a sizeable risk to either be forced to join Islamic State or killed.

We're making ISIS larger for them. But hey, if you think it's nonsense, that's your opinion. We'll just wait and see whose right in a couple years.

Saudi Arabia and Egypt not being included negates every positive of this.

(01-28-2017 05:23 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:46 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Good. America's safety comes first.

Lets protect ourselves from an overseas enemy who already has so many covert operatives in the United States right now it's not funny.

Great plan. He's doing exactly what ISIS wants him to do.

Nonsense.

ISIS has been perpetuating the belief to the few of muslims who will listen to them that the West hates Islam and is trying to convert them all. By shutting the doors to refugees from Islamic countries, the US is basically admitting that they don't trust Islam. More people are thus more likely to listen to their own propaganda, or the propaganda of other terrorist groups.

All in the name of some sort of mythical safety that only protects Americans from immigrants of specific countries, and not others.

Well, yeah, you got me. How silly of me to assume that 24 year old muslim Abul Rahman al-hamsammich from Aleppo, Syria might pose a greater threat than 60 year old Alistair Williams from Wales.

You don't think someone from Wales can be a terrorist? What about all the people from Saudi Arabia who can still enter freely despite the fact that they put a lot of money in terrorists hands.

You hate, we win

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(01-28-2017 05:25 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:21 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Lets protect ourselves from an overseas enemy who already has so many covert operatives in the United States right now it's not funny.

Great plan. He's doing exactly what ISIS wants him to do.

Nonsense.

ISIS has been perpetuating the belief to the few of muslims who will listen to them that the West hates Islam and is trying to convert them all. By shutting the doors to refugees from Islamic countries, the US is basically admitting that they don't trust Islam. More people are thus more likely to listen to their own propaganda, or the propaganda of other terrorist groups.

All in the name of some sort of mythical safety that only protects Americans from immigrants of specific countries, and not others.

Nonsense.

Every person the US refuses to take in from Syria or other countries is at a sizeable risk to either be forced to join Islamic State or killed.

We're making ISIS larger for them. But hey, if you think it's nonsense, that's your opinion. We'll just wait and see whose right in a couple years.

Bullspit. And why do we have to wait two years? Do you ever tune in the news from Western Europe? Almost every single one of those murdering bastards was an immigrant.

(01-28-2017 05:20 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:10 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:03 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:54 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Safety first my ass. If this was about safety, Egypt and Saudi Arabia would be apart of the list. This is just pandering.

Yep.

This is about Trump's inexperience with the Presidency, and his mad desire to implement as many of his campaign promises as humanly possible in the first week in office. And his desire to continue to make money off Saudi Arabia who basically state sponsors terrorism but gets no backlash because they have money.

He's risking a war with an entire religion if he's not careful.

Islam has been at war with the western world for as long as I can remember, but you have kept your eyes closed.


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ISIS has been at war. Not Islam. Isis is a very tiny percentage of the actual Islamic population nation wide.

So isis was the group that flew the airplanes into the twin towers?


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(01-28-2017 04:54 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Safety first my ass. If this was about safety, Egypt and Saudi Arabia would be apart of the list. This is just pandering.

And the UAE, where DJT has business interests.

(01-28-2017 05:26 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:23 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Lets protect ourselves from an overseas enemy who already has so many covert operatives in the United States right now it's not funny.

Great plan. He's doing exactly what ISIS wants him to do.

Nonsense.

ISIS has been perpetuating the belief to the few of muslims who will listen to them that the West hates Islam and is trying to convert them all. By shutting the doors to refugees from Islamic countries, the US is basically admitting that they don't trust Islam. More people are thus more likely to listen to their own propaganda, or the propaganda of other terrorist groups.

All in the name of some sort of mythical safety that only protects Americans from immigrants of specific countries, and not others.

Well, yeah, you got me. How silly of me to assume that 24 year old muslim Abul Rahman al-hamsammich from Aleppo, Syria might pose a greater threat than 60 year old Alistair Williams from Wales.

You don't think someone from Wales can be a terrorist? What about all the people from Saudi Arabia who can still enter freely despite the fact that they put a lot of money in terrorists hands.

One step at a time my little confused friend. And one thing I bet will be abundantly clear if there is another attack on our soil. The attacker will likely have made his way here before 20 January 2017.

(01-28-2017 05:28 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:25 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:21 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:19 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 05:08 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Nonsense.

ISIS has been perpetuating the belief to the few of muslims who will listen to them that the West hates Islam and is trying to convert them all. By shutting the doors to refugees from Islamic countries, the US is basically admitting that they don't trust Islam. More people are thus more likely to listen to their own propaganda, or the propaganda of other terrorist groups.

All in the name of some sort of mythical safety that only protects Americans from immigrants of specific countries, and not others.

Nonsense.

Every person the US refuses to take in from Syria or other countries is at a sizeable risk to either be forced to join Islamic State or killed.

We're making ISIS larger for them. But hey, if you think it's nonsense, that's your opinion. We'll just wait and see whose right in a couple years.

Bullspit. And why do we have to wait two years? Do you ever tune in the news from Western Europe? Almost every single one of those murdering bastards was an immigrant.

We're waiting a couple years because I believe this will help ISIS more than hurt them. Those numbers can't be determined over a brief period of time.

So, let me get this straight. We have to pander to ISIS, otherwise they will recruit peaceful Muslims to kill us.