(02-23-2017 08:57 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 02:07 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

Now the safety of LGBT kids will be determined by their zipcode.

I suspect Pence's influence had something to do with this as well. Supposedly DeVos actually argued vehemently against this but was overruled. I guess Ivanka's (and Jared's) influence also was overruled since they were the driving force behind this statement from earlier this month.

(WH statement released February 5th).

“President Donald J Trump is determined to protect the rights of all Americans, including the LGBT community. President Trump continues to be respectful and supportive of LGBTQ rights, just as he was throughout the election.

“The executive order signed in 2014, which protects employees from anti-LGBT workplace discrimination while working for federal contractors, will remain intact at the direction of President Donald J Trump.”

There is absolutely nothing inconsistent with the above statement and refusing to force school districts to let boys who think they are girls into girl's dressing rooms/bathrooms.

Agreed, and knowing boys will be boys -whose to say that a boy might not claim to "now be a girl" to gain access to girls dressing rooms?

Glad to see common sense prevail.

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT.

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(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

Now the safety of LGBT kids will be determined by their zipcode.

I believe Obama's decree was blocked by the courts, right? If so, then Trump's action does nothing. Not like he's saying folks can discriminate against LGBTs. Of course, folks will spin this just like they spun the immigration stuff. It's all agenda driven.

(02-23-2017 09:28 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT.

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(02-23-2017 09:58 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

Now the safety of LGBT kids will be determined by their zipcode.

I believe Obama's decree was blocked by the courts, right? If so, then Trump's action does nothing. Not like he's saying folks can discriminate against LGBTs. Of course, folks will spin this just like they spun the immigration stuff. It's all agenda driven.

Yep.....and in the grand scheme of the list of things our elected leaders need to work on - this ranks somewhere toward the bottom. If we get a bunch of other stuff sorted out, we can worry about the confused that want the opposite sexes body parts.......

So now democrats oppose state's rights? This is confusing

Lol

(02-23-2017 10:25 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 09:58 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

Now the safety of LGBT kids will be determined by their zipcode.

I believe Obama's decree was blocked by the courts, right? If so, then Trump's action does nothing. Not like he's saying folks can discriminate against LGBTs. Of course, folks will spin this just like they spun the immigration stuff. It's all agenda driven.

Yep.....and in the grand scheme of the list of things our elected leaders need to work on - this ranks somewhere toward the bottom. If we get a bunch of other stuff sorted out, we can worry about the confused that want the opposite sexes body parts.......

The Democrats have OD'd on social issues while ignoring economic issues much like the GOP was being pushed to do by the Santorum/Huckabee group.

(02-23-2017 02:07 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

Now the safety of LGBT kids will be determined by their zipcode.

I suspect Pence's influence had something to do with this as well. Supposedly DeVos actually argued vehemently against this but was overruled. I guess Ivanka's (and Jared's) influence also was overruled since they were the driving force behind this statement from earlier this month.

Pence was behind what, exactly? Trump saying this should be a state issue? He said that during the campaign!

http://www.unionleader.com/editorial/Bat...h-02222017

"...Congress could make a law, but it hasn’t. It has left such decisions to state and local officials. But Barack Obama used his phone and his pen to effectively create new laws, often through executive orders and in this case with a threatening letter from two Cabinet departments.What one President does without benefit of legislation, the next President can just as easily undo.The Trump administration is correct to reassure local school districts that the federal government will not punish them if they have boys use the boys’ room and girls use the girls’ room.Again, local schools are free to make whatever accommodations they deem necessary to ensure that all students are able to learn in a safe environment. They should not be forced to comply with progressive obsessions under threat from Uncle Sam."

I love how the media is reporting this as Trump reversing "protections" on LGBT people. LMAO. "Protections" is now the new buzz word in the media. What they mean to say is REGULATIONS. Most of which were never voted on, but rather written by bureaucrats at various levels of the government.

Leave it up to the states. The federal government has too much power, and it needs to be rolled back to the states, as the founders intended.

CNN's Chris Cuomo says that overprotective and intolerant parents need to "teach tolerance" to their 12 year old daughters that don't wish to see a ***** in the locker room.

https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/83...9394246658

What. In. The. Actual. F*ck.

(02-23-2017 03:23 PM)Kronke Wrote:  CNN's Chris Cuomo says that overprotective and intolerant parents need to "teach tolerance" to their 12 year old daughters that don't wish to see a ***** in the locker room.

https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/83...9394246658

What. In. The. Actual. F*ck.

a ******* disease...

(02-23-2017 03:25 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 03:23 PM)Kronke Wrote:  CNN's Chris Cuomo says that overprotective and intolerant parents need to "teach tolerance" to their 12 year old daughters that don't wish to see a ***** in the locker room.

https://twitter.com/ChrisCuomo/status/83...9394246658

What. In. The. Actual. F*ck.

a ******* disease...

Leftists are so far off of the rails they will defend any wacky leftist position. Think about it, they are insane.

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

I'm really not trying to split hairs, but isn't this really just a T issue? LGB&T have allied for political purposes, and I think that's a wise strategy to increase numbers and influence. But this specific issue has very little (maybe microscopic) overlap to L and/or G. I don't think it's debatable that the gay and lesbian portion of the community is much more normalized (probably poor word choice; sorry) than the transgender community. Point being, Tom, if it is a war I don't think it's on you.

(02-23-2017 03:38 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

I'm really not trying to split hairs, but isn't this really just a T issue? LGB&T have allied for political purposes, and I think that's a wise strategy to increase numbers and influence. But this specific issue has very little (maybe microscopic) overlap to L and/or G. I don't think it's debatable that the gay and lesbian portion of the community is much more normalized (probably poor word choice; sorry) than the transgender community. Point being, Tom, if it is a war I don't think it's on you.

Always felt the alphabet group was stupid. The T does not belong. The L and G are the same (except the man hating L's want to separate themselves. The B isn't even real or has no need for a designation.

Legally, bathrooms are different than locker room.
Single unit bathrooms with both a urinal and toilet should be universal and unisex in all public spaces imo.

No cocks allowed in girls shower and no ***** allowed in boys shower in public buildings

(02-23-2017 03:38 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

I'm really not trying to split hairs, but isn't this really just a T issue? LGB&T have allied for political purposes, and I think that's a wise strategy to increase numbers and influence. But this specific issue has very little (maybe microscopic) overlap to L and/or G. I don't think it's debatable that the gay and lesbian portion of the community is much more normalized (probably poor word choice; sorry) than the transgender community. Point being, Tom, if it is a war I don't think it's on you.

Only problem is this. When we drop the T, they still come after us using the bathroom argument anyway. Dropping the T doesn't decrease the opposition to non-discrimination ordinances by even 1 vote.

(02-23-2017 03:50 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 03:38 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

I'm really not trying to split hairs, but isn't this really just a T issue? LGB&T have allied for political purposes, and I think that's a wise strategy to increase numbers and influence. But this specific issue has very little (maybe microscopic) overlap to L and/or G. I don't think it's debatable that the gay and lesbian portion of the community is much more normalized (probably poor word choice; sorry) than the transgender community. Point being, Tom, if it is a war I don't think it's on you.

Always felt the alphabet group was stupid. The T does not belong. The L and G are the same (except the man hating L's want to separate themselves. The B isn't even real or has no need for a designation.

Are you Gay or Lesbian? I think you're projecting. Sure, there's some fringe of Gay men and Lesbians that don't work together, but we recognize we're all in the same boat and those that oppose Trans persons have a shopping list and we are ALL on it.

(02-23-2017 03:50 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  

(02-23-2017 03:38 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  

(02-22-2017 11:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep, War on LGBTs from DJT. With a reported assist from the homophobic AG.

I'm really not trying to split hairs, but isn't this really just a T issue? LGB&T have allied for political purposes, and I think that's a wise strategy to increase numbers and influence. But this specific issue has very little (maybe microscopic) overlap to L and/or G. I don't think it's debatable that the gay and lesbian portion of the community is much more normalized (probably poor word choice; sorry) than the transgender community. Point being, Tom, if it is a war I don't think it's on you.

Always felt the alphabet group was stupid. The T does not belong. The L and G are the same (except the man hating L's want to separate themselves. The B isn't even real or has no need for a designation.

I'm still waiting for an answer as to what's different between a gay and a queer. I thought it was the same.

Why don't they just call themselves the CG's for Confused Genders.