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I still have no idea why an every day Joe would want a $70,000+ pick up truck. People are free to spend their own money as they like so more power to them though.
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I got in debt in my first marriage trying to make my then wife happy by buying her stuff, like clothes and jewelry. One time she was biatching that she didn't have any dresses. I gave her money to do so and then she comes back with more pants. I asked her why she bought pants instead of dresses like she wanted and she yelled that she needed pants too. Go figure. Now she has to buy her own crap. LOL
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(03-07-2017 03:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I got in debt in my first marriage trying to make my then wife happy by buying her stuff, like clothes and jewelry. One time she was biatching that she didn't have any dresses. I gave her money to do so and then she comes back with more pants. I asked her why she bought pants instead of dresses like she wanted and she yelled that she needed pants too. Go figure. Now she has to buy her own crap. LOL

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(03-07-2017 04:00 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I got in debt in my first marriage trying to make my then wife happy by buying her stuff, like clothes and jewelry. One time she was biatching that she didn't have any dresses. I gave her money to do so and then she comes back with more pants. I asked her why she bought pants instead of dresses like she wanted and she yelled that she needed pants too. Go figure. Now she has to buy her own crap. LOL

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Never getting married again unless she is very wealthy and will give me a lot of $$$. I tell younger guys, who are good looking in shape with a decent career, who want to get married and start a family....go get a 3rd world chick. Most of them won't have a problem staying home a raising the kids.
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(03-07-2017 03:31 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I still have no idea why an every day Joe would want a $70,000+ pick up truck. People are free to spend their own money as they like so more power to them though.

Either they are choosing between that and a Z06 or they need it for their business. There is no middle ground here
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Or just marry well.......

There's always that......
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(03-07-2017 04:06 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 04:00 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I got in debt in my first marriage trying to make my then wife happy by buying her stuff, like clothes and jewelry. One time she was biatching that she didn't have any dresses. I gave her money to do so and then she comes back with more pants. I asked her why she bought pants instead of dresses like she wanted and she yelled that she needed pants too. Go figure. Now she has to buy her own crap. LOL

Cardinal rule. Tell them no, early and often. 05-stirthepot

Never getting married again unless she is very wealthy and will give me a lot of $$$. I tell younger guys, who are good looking in shape with a decent career, who want to get married and start a family....go get a 3rd world chick. Most of them won't have a problem staying home a raising the kids.


You know how y'all say that our immigrants don't assimilate. Well, she assimilated too well, LOL. She was from a third world country and came to love the good life and all that comes with it. I was young and dumb and full of … I thought giving her what she wanted would keep her happy and I found out there would never be enough money to do that. Now, don't get me wrong, I threw away a lot of money myself and carried a big credit card bill. When we divorced I had to assume all debt as nothing anyone could do would make her help pay it off. I wanted a good credit rating and I scrounged enough to pay all my debts. Because of this debt we had marital problems and she decided to find someone with more money. I thank him and I should have sent flowers to him. He ridded me of an over jealous, stifling woman. I'm in seventh heaven now and I'm grateful that God sent me my present wife. I have everything one can wish for. Wowee.
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(03-07-2017 04:24 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 04:06 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 04:00 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I got in debt in my first marriage trying to make my then wife happy by buying her stuff, like clothes and jewelry. One time she was biatching that she didn't have any dresses. I gave her money to do so and then she comes back with more pants. I asked her why she bought pants instead of dresses like she wanted and she yelled that she needed pants too. Go figure. Now she has to buy her own crap. LOL

Cardinal rule. Tell them no, early and often. 05-stirthepot

Never getting married again unless she is very wealthy and will give me a lot of $$$. I tell younger guys, who are good looking in shape with a decent career, who want to get married and start a family....go get a 3rd world chick. Most of them won't have a problem staying home a raising the kids.


You know how y'all say that our immigrants don't assimilate. Well, she assimilated too well, LOL. She was from a third world country and came to love the good life and all that comes with it. I was young and dumb and full of … I thought giving her what she wanted would keep her happy and I found out there would never be enough money to do that. Now, don't get me wrong, I threw away a lot of money myself and carried a big credit card bill. When we divorced I had to assume all debt as nothing anyone could do would make her help pay it off. I wanted a good credit rating and I scrounged enough to pay all my debts. Because of this debt we had marital problems and she decided to find someone with more money. I thank him and I should have sent flowers to him. He ridded me of an over jealous, stifling woman. I'm in seventh heaven now and I'm grateful that God sent me my present wife. I have everything one can wish for. Wowee.

What country was #1 from?
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(03-07-2017 04:13 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:31 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I still have no idea why an every day Joe would want a $70,000+ pick up truck. People are free to spend their own money as they like so more power to them though.

Either they are choosing between that and a Z06 or they need it for their business. There is no middle ground here

LOL

You've gone from
Quote:I don't know much about trucks
to now making definitive statements why people buy trucks.

03-lmfao
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Hecho en Mejico. What's funny about this is that her own brothers would tell me to beat her up. They couldn't understand what the heck she wanted because they would say that I gave her everything, which was partly true. I never thought of using physical force as that never accomplishes nothing. Getting a new life was a better outcome. Unfortunately, in all this crap during our breakup my two sons were caught in-between. By a miracle of God they turned out to be great sons, no thanks to their parents.
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(03-07-2017 03:17 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:09 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:03 PM)john01992 Wrote:  difference between me and bull/kap is if I see a Corvette Z06 in a showroom I don't try to make the stupid argument that you see Z06's being driven on a frequent basis because why else would it be in a showroom....all to talk about iPhones.

The difference between me and you is I don't bother misrepresenting peoples arguments....

you did exactly that to me in the tampon thread03-banghead

I did not misrepresent anything. You made a naked, empty, attack the source... That's all it was. I called you on it, the Mods said I should not have, and that's the end of it.

Here you've misrepresented a substantive post of mine....
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(03-07-2017 05:41 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:17 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:09 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:03 PM)john01992 Wrote:  difference between me and bull/kap is if I see a Corvette Z06 in a showroom I don't try to make the stupid argument that you see Z06's being driven on a frequent basis because why else would it be in a showroom....all to talk about iPhones.

The difference between me and you is I don't bother misrepresenting peoples arguments....

you did exactly that to me in the tampon thread03-banghead

I did not misrepresent anything. You made a naked, empty, attack the source... That's all it was. I called you on it, the Mods said I should not have, and that's the end of it.

Here you've misrepresented a substantive post of mine....

good.
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(03-07-2017 04:14 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Or just marry well.......

There's always that......
yep. my wife is fantastic.

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(03-07-2017 05:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 05:41 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:17 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:09 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:03 PM)john01992 Wrote:  difference between me and bull/kap is if I see a Corvette Z06 in a showroom I don't try to make the stupid argument that you see Z06's being driven on a frequent basis because why else would it be in a showroom....all to talk about iPhones.

The difference between me and you is I don't bother misrepresenting peoples arguments....

you did exactly that to me in the tampon thread03-banghead

I did not misrepresent anything. You made a naked, empty, attack the source... That's all it was. I called you on it, the Mods said I should not have, and that's the end of it.

Here you've misrepresented a substantive post of mine....

good.

Yea I noticed they got your post too....
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(03-07-2017 01:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 01:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 01:42 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 01:28 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 01:24 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Obviously you have never priced a three quarter ton or larger pickup truck.

I honestly thought he was smart enough to not include superduty machines that have practical uses. I thought he was going to bring up something that actually proves his point such as those tricked out F-150s designed to go fast.

Three quarter ton and larger pickups have been popular "daily drivers" for non-commercial users for quite some time and sales continue to be high, especially diesels.

I see an F-450 maybe once a year. give me a break.


I see three one ton pickups before I turn off my street each day. Two F350's and a GMC 3500. None are work trucks.

Of course I don't live in Cuckville, USA so.......

Yea, I'm just reading along now, but was already shaking my head. I'll see heavier duty PU's dozens of times a day. Some work, many not, almost all of them privately owned regardless of purpose. Anyone with a damn boat of any real size needs something, and the diesels are very popular for that. Hell, I'll drive by an F350 and similar size Dodge Ram (3500?) before I turn out of our little neighborhood.
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(03-07-2017 06:07 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 05:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 05:41 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:17 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 03:09 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  The difference between me and you is I don't bother misrepresenting peoples arguments....

you did exactly that to me in the tampon thread03-banghead

I did not misrepresent anything. You made a naked, empty, attack the source... That's all it was. I called you on it, the Mods said I should not have, and that's the end of it.

Here you've misrepresented a substantive post of mine....

good.

Yea I noticed they got your post too....

seriously WTF is wrong with you? why do you keep trying to start something?
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(03-07-2017 02:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 02:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 01:59 PM)john01992 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 01:57 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 01:51 PM)john01992 Wrote:  I see an F-450 maybe once a year. give me a break.


I see three one ton pickups before I turn off my street each day. Two F350's and a GMC 3500. None are work trucks.

Of course I don't live in Cuckville, USA so.......

again. give me a break dude.

Give yourself a break. Once again you are trying to pass yourself off as an expert on a subject you have absolutely no clue about.

The F450 was just one example. You can go on the Ford, Chevy, GMC, or Ram website and price any three quarter ton or one ton pickup to the level BIB mentioned with common options. Add in the specialty options like lift kits, fancy rims and tires, brush guards, etc. that many dealerships are adding on to these very popular trucks and you are pushing $90k or more. When my oldest son was home over Christmas we stopped off at the local Chevy dealer to look at a truck they had on the lot. It was a new 2500 with dealer installed lift kit, big aggressive off-road tires, winch bumper, LED light kit and a custom stereo. $93K before taxes and it's not a truck you buy to go build decks or haul skid steer tractors.

I don't know much about trucks but I do know that what an F-450 looks like. they are quite rare despite Ford being the king of pickups.

find me a 90K pickup truck that isn't used for industrial purposes. not hearsay nonsense

You post that in response to a post doing just what you're asking for?
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Not every poor people can afford neither one. I don't own an I-Phone.
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I don't own a personal iPhone, I have one for work. That being said the phones my wife and I have are smartphones that make calls, texts, and can use to get online. It's a phone. I refuse to pay more for a phone than I have for a monthly car payment.
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(03-08-2017 07:04 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Not every poor people can afford neither one. I don't own an I-Phone.

Guessing you work. Lot of working people are poor and can't afford/waste money on wants. But when you refuse to take care of yourself and have the government pay your rent, grocery bill, medical and even the damn phone bill itself, funny thing happens. You can find money for that expensive phone.
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