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ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
Letter sent to ACC Presidents and AD's yesterday.
David Glenn Show @DavidGlennShow 14h14 hours ago
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BREAKING:
Internal @theACC memo sent today reflects @espn assurances that ACC has "total confirmation" of ACC Network launch (Summer 2019). pic.twitter.com/23JdowSXM4
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
Great!!!!!!!
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05-04-2017 08:13 AM |
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Hokie Mark
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
I also researched all of the popular streaming TV options (Sling, Vue, and now YouTube and Hulu) and one thing they all have in common: ESPN on the basic level.
http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2017/0...-espn.html
For that matter, all but Sling have the SEC Network on basic as well.
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05-04-2017 09:07 AM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
The thing that many of the armchair "experts" forget is that from ESPN's perspective, the ACCN is about growing revenues.
(This post was last modified: 05-04-2017 09:21 AM by orangefan.)
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Hokie Mark
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 09:21 AM)orangefan Wrote: The thing that many of the armchair "experts" forget is that from ESPN's perspective, the ACCN is about growing revenues.
Right. From ESPN's point of view, the choices were/are:
1. GIVE the ACC $45 million per year for no extra content, or
2. SHARE an estimated $240 million per year with the ACC.
duh.
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05-04-2017 09:38 AM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
to do otherwise ...
a sharp lawyer could argue ...
espn in breach of contract ...
rights put on open market ...
sold to the highest bidder ...
PAYMENT IN FULL
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05-04-2017 09:53 AM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 09:07 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: I also researched all of the popular streaming TV options (Sling, Vue, and now YouTube and Hulu) and one thing they all have in common: ESPN on the basic level.
http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2017/0...-espn.html
For that matter, all but Sling have the SEC Network on basic as well.
Yep, this is the point that is missing from most of these discussions. Since mobile aps aren't counted in subscription totals they aren't counted toward profits in the public's distracted minds. But it doesn't matter what name you receive programming under the fees are paid. It is merely the mode that is changing, not the NET revenue per se. Now the NET revenue will change when somebody simply drops an ESPN product without picking it up elsewhere, but those incidents are not as common as have been touted by Bloomberg and CSNBC who just by the way happen to be competitors.
So the whole cord cutting conversation is hyped by those who benefit directly by putting a competing interest down, or indirectly by affecting the stock valuations of a profitable company, which then allows them to purchase shares at a discounted rate while knowing the legitimate profitability of the product. You can't prove intent so its an easy game to play and just a few cents on thousands of shares is a nice sum, and that's a very small example.
IMO opinion the biggest unknown and therefore the biggest threat to the ACCN, or the SECN, or the LHN, or any of our products comes in the form of business trajectory. Does John Skipper remain the CEO at ESPN? If he does then we stay the current course. But, if in the wake of 2 layoffs and the cord cutting hype by competitors, and the earnings miss of the 1st quarter, and the length of Skippers tenure already, it would not be surprising at all if Disney made a change, if for no other reason than propping up the perception that they would be proactive for the sake of shareholders. If Skipper is changed any or all of us could be affected because the new CEO would likely change the trajectory.
(This post was last modified: 05-04-2017 11:56 AM by JRsec.)
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
1. I think specialized networks are part of what's fueling the layoffs.
2. The damages of ESPN pulling out would be substantia, as would the loss of revenue. They aren't pulling out.
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05-04-2017 12:44 PM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote: If Skipper is changed any or all of us could be affected because the new CEO would likely change the trajectory.
great men come & go ...
but ironclad contracts resist temptation to bend with the whim ...
WON'T GET RID OF ME EASY AS THAT
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 01:17 PM)green Wrote: (05-04-2017 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote: If Skipper is changed any or all of us could be affected because the new CEO would likely change the trajectory.
great men come & go ...
but ironclad contracts resist temptation to bend with the whim ...
WON'T GET RID OF ME EASY AS THAT
That brings up my favorite quote from then President Charles de Gaulle:
THE GRAVEYARDS ARE FULL OF INDISPENSABLE MEN
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05-04-2017 01:28 PM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 01:28 PM)TerryD Wrote: (05-04-2017 01:17 PM)green Wrote: (05-04-2017 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote: If Skipper is changed any or all of us could be affected because the new CEO would likely change the trajectory.
great men come & go ...
but ironclad contracts resist temptation to bend with the whim ...
WON'T GET RID OF ME EASY AS THAT
That brings up my favorite quote from then President Charles de Gaulle:
THE GRAVEYARDS ARE FULL OF INDISPENSABLE MEN
And a paraphrase of L.B.J., "Why haven't they voted?"
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05-04-2017 01:58 PM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 01:58 PM)JRsec Wrote: (05-04-2017 01:28 PM)TerryD Wrote: (05-04-2017 01:17 PM)green Wrote: (05-04-2017 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote: If Skipper is changed any or all of us could be affected because the new CEO would likely change the trajectory.
great men come & go ...
but ironclad contracts resist temptation to bend with the whim ...
WON'T GET RID OF ME EASY AS THAT
That brings up my favorite quote from then President Charles de Gaulle:
THE GRAVEYARDS ARE FULL OF INDISPENSABLE MEN
And a paraphrase of L.B.J., "Why haven't they voted?"
I believe they did JR, two or three times, maybe more!
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05-04-2017 01:59 PM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 01:59 PM)XLance Wrote: (05-04-2017 01:58 PM)JRsec Wrote: (05-04-2017 01:28 PM)TerryD Wrote: (05-04-2017 01:17 PM)green Wrote: (05-04-2017 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote: If Skipper is changed any or all of us could be affected because the new CEO would likely change the trajectory.
great men come & go ...
but ironclad contracts resist temptation to bend with the whim ...
WON'T GET RID OF ME EASY AS THAT
That brings up my favorite quote from then President Charles de Gaulle:
THE GRAVEYARDS ARE FULL OF INDISPENSABLE MEN
And a paraphrase of L.B.J., "Why haven't they voted?"
I believe they did JR, two or three times, maybe more!
I think the original quote was something like, "Vote early and often and death is no excuse!"
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05-04-2017 02:18 PM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
This is great news. I commend Swofford for getting this done
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05-04-2017 04:02 PM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 04:02 PM)rednblackattack Wrote: This is great news. I commend Swofford for getting this done
It ain't done yet... no chickens, just eggs right now.
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05-04-2017 05:33 PM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 12:44 PM)nzmorange Wrote: 1. I think specialized networks are part of what's fueling the layoffs.
2. The damages of ESPN pulling out would be substantia, as would the loss of revenue. They aren't pulling out.
What damages? Have you read the contract?
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05-05-2017 08:24 AM |
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RE: ACC Network is "full speed ahead"
(05-04-2017 11:53 AM)JRsec Wrote: (05-04-2017 09:07 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: I also researched all of the popular streaming TV options (Sling, Vue, and now YouTube and Hulu) and one thing they all have in common: ESPN on the basic level.
http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2017/0...-espn.html
For that matter, all but Sling have the SEC Network on basic as well.
Yep, this is the point that is missing from most of these discussions. Since mobile aps aren't counted in subscription totals they aren't counted toward profits in the public's distracted minds. But it doesn't matter what name you receive programming under the fees are paid. It is merely the mode that is changing, not the NET revenue per se. Now the NET revenue will change when somebody simply drops an ESPN product without picking it up elsewhere, but those incidents are not as common as have been touted by Bloomberg and CSNBC who just by the way happen to be competitors.
So the whole cord cutting conversation is hyped by those who benefit directly by putting a competing interest down, or indirectly by affecting the stock valuations of a profitable company, which then allows them to purchase shares at a discounted rate while knowing the legitimate profitability of the product. You can't prove intent so its an easy game to play and just a few cents on thousands of shares is a nice sum, and that's a very small example.
IMO opinion the biggest unknown and therefore the biggest threat to the ACCN, or the SECN, or the LHN, or any of our products comes in the form of business trajectory. Does John Skipper remain the CEO at ESPN? If he does then we stay the current course. But, if in the wake of 2 layoffs and the cord cutting hype by competitors, and the earnings miss of the 1st quarter, and the length of Skippers tenure already, it would not be surprising at all if Disney made a change, if for no other reason than propping up the perception that they would be proactive for the sake of shareholders. If Skipper is changed any or all of us could be affected because the new CEO would likely change the trajectory.
re: streaming services, not only is it telling that not a single one dares to launch without ESPN, but it was recently confirmed that ESPN gets their full carriage rate from the streaming services. That was big news.
We know that ESPN is being carried by these services on basic tiers, but what we didn't know was if ESPN was only getting cut rate fees. But now we know that's not true.
Obviously, there are going to be people that go from cable subscribers to Netflix/gaming/torrents and never subscribe to another system, and those people are gone for good, and ESPN is never getting them back. So haircuts all around.
But ultimately, college sports is a product people want and will pay for. The money will make it back to the conferences.
The sad fact is that if it really comes down to it, they will get more money from those of us that want it. The extreme scenario is boxing...the audience for boxing is now a remnant of what it was...but that remnant pays more to enjoy it than almost any other sport...enough that the fighters and promoters are still making huge money.
I still think the whole situation will stabilize. The market has been disrupted, ESPN has to pivot a bit in terms of their expenses to account for it, but ultimately it's still a product people want.
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05-05-2017 08:57 AM |
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