Getting closer with the coming out of Michael Sussman.

I don't know.....

I don't remember.....

I don't recall.....

Why are we putting this deceitful weasel on a pedestal? Can someone please thank him for his contributions while not allowing him to use W&M as some base of credibility?

The arrogance alone is embarrassing enough.

(12-10-2018 05:43 PM)Sitting bull Wrote:  I don't know.....

I don't remember.....

I don't recall.....

Why are we putting this deceitful weasel on a pedestal? Can someone please thank him for his contributions while not allowing him to use W&M as some base of credibility?

The arrogance alone is embarrassing enough.

Amen SB

(02-19-2018 02:14 PM)SoCal Frank Wrote:  That’s what makes a horse race!! An old school phrase. At the track you have all sorts of people who think they know the winner. They’ve got it. Or, they think they do. There’s a finish line out there. Let’s hope they’ve made the turn and are headed for home.

“And down the stretch they come!” McCabe showed himself to be a dangerous fool. He and his crony’s ( including Comey) have hoisted their colors.

The investigators are about to be investigated:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/201...s-merging/

If this is true, and if this makes it out into the public eye for all to see and understand, this will be a problem.

The NYT yesterday confirmed FBI spying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/us/po...trump.html

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/201...-campaign/

https://thefederalist.com/2018/05/17/10-...-campaign/

Papadopolous yesterday raised the involvement of the CIA.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/...6189489152

The FISA court has already stated that this stuff was going on for several years before 2016.

“And down the stretch they come!”

Those that can do, those who can't teach. Ethically speaking that is...

https://amgreatness.com/2019/05/05/the-f...mes-comey/

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/44...e-knows-it

Comey’s performance on cnn was demonstrative of an absolute fool.

I can't believe that the College employed such an unethical person as James Comey as an ethics professor.

OK, I'll bite. Did something new happen to dredge up this thread? I didn't spend a lot of time looking, but I was curious why this thread came back from the dead. Am I missing something? The stuff I'm reading is the same theories used to work the right up into a lather, recycled and put out by the same usual suspects- Nunes, Gowdy, Guiliani, Hannity. I'm not saying Comey is a great guy. Personally, I think he is a little off putting when he speaks. But, a lot of this information presented as fact in these opinion pieces and "news" sources, parrot the conspiracy theory rhetoric found on Q-anon websites and MAGA Twitter. Could they be correct? Sure. But it's the presentation that they are absolutely correct, is what is troubling. Most of these news sources feature as much opinion as they do facts. Not a great combo. Certainly worthy of skepticism.

What's changed? He still serves as the convenient boogeyman for the right and the left. No matter how much bluster and chest thumping we hear, there won't be a serious attempt to indict and he's certainly not going to jail. He has about as much chance as Trump of being impeached. Zero.

I have the same thoughts as before. Due to the emotions he draws out of people serving as the boogeyman, he should never have been brought to Williamsburg with the circus following him around.

Have we even heard if he actually has ever started teaching at W&M? I'm not sure if it ever happened.

Lots more to follow on the 2 year Russia probe. It is going to get hot for some folks.

Uh Oh

https://a57.foxnews.com/hp.foxnews.com/i...?tl=1&ve=1

https://townhall.com/columnists/victorda...p-n2546735

https://www.richmond.com/opinion/their-o...77171.html

That's the same opinion piece posted twice. The second link forgetting to call it an opinion piece doesn't make it not an opinion piece. Yelling as loud as you can that you don't want something to be true doesn't make it more or less true. I need to remember that I ignored for a reason.

I posted it twice for two reasons.

First, the opinion piece at the RTD may be behind a pay wall for some folks, and can’t be read by those folks.

Second, some folks won’t read anything posted at the Town Hall site, but the same RTD opinion piece is there for all to read, should they so choose.

I don’t understand the “head in the sand” attitude.

Some of us warned that the school was going to get burned, and that the school should wait until all of this was over.

It ain’t over yet, and the school is going to get burned.

The framing of a President of the United States to get him removed from office is not ethical leadership, IMO. The posted article expressly mentions the word “ethical”.

(05-25-2019 04:34 AM)nj alum Wrote:  The framing of a President of the United States to get him removed from office is not ethical leadership, IMO. The posted article expressly mentions the word “ethical”.

Let me guess, the Mueller report was generated by the "18 angry democrats" and not accurate. The Mueller report represents the most info that we the public will get about that time period in the administration. Nowhere in that document (that's not redacted) is there anything that indicates Comey framed anyone- no matter how much it is spun. That doesn't change with the quantity of opinion pieces that are posted. You can like or dislike some of the investigative choices Comey made with hindsight, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was unethical.
If grandstanding and peacocking make Comey unethical, than I agree with you. I agree that writing a book isn't a great look. I agree that the timing of hiring Comey wasn't wise by W&M. But, IMO, these rocks being thrown at Comey come from political angles and not from actual malpractice in his duties. Again, just my opinion and you are free to disagree.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...ygate.html

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/obam...-digenova/

https://news.grabien.com/story-dan-bongi...urce-collu

Every American understands a “frame”. The more info that comes out, even those who hate Trump, will realize that this was a “frame”.

Then, the choice will have to be made by each individual.

What is more important? Hatred of Trump, or abhorrence of government employees / officials framing private citizens / elected officials?

(05-25-2019 08:50 AM)nj alum Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...ygate.html

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/obam...-digenova/

https://news.grabien.com/story-dan-bongi...urce-collu

Every American understands a “frame”. The more info that comes out, even those who hate Trump, will realize that this was a “frame”.

Have you even entertained the idea that wrong doing took place from Trump's camp? A frame job by career law enforcement officers and government entities, both conservative and liberal, that want to cast aside everything that they worked for and stood for in their careers just to get Trump makes more sense? The idea that a "deep state" frame job to discredit the president is more probable than the possibility that a man with a looong history of being shady actually did shady things? Really? That feels like the more likely scenario to you?
You mention as more info comes out people will decide. I'm sure new bombshell findings after the fact from Trump's camp will surely clean things up. Do you really think Mueller wasn't privy to whatever new info comes up? It was in Trumps best interest to provide witnesses that could clear him. Seems like the most damning witnesses to Trump were the ones closest to him. Is Mueller part of your frame job theory? He concluded that there was enough troubling conduct that it should be referred to congress for oversight. Sadly, that isn't getting done. Maybe, just maybe, this isn't the plot to a TV show or a conspiracy theory and the truth is actually simple and right in front of us.