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(01-03-2018 01:52 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 01:49 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 01:40 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 01:09 PM)Cat-Man Wrote:  Bengals retaining Lazor as O-Coordinator.

Paul Alexander gone.

Simmons staying.

Guenther gone. Darren Simmons to gain "more responsibility".

Marvin said they will finally look at FA to help get some better guys here.

Coaches will continue to provide input on draft day, not much will change there.

Said they want to be more of a vertical threat offensively.

Then they better find a new QB. That's the weakest part of Dalton's game. His downfield passing is atrocious, and that's with having one of the best receivers in the game at his disposal.

Has it been confirmed that Guenther is gone? I'd love to see them get Jack Del Rio. He's kind of like Wade Phillips. He stinks as a HC, but he can coach defense. He's coordinated 3 defenses ranked in the top 3.

He hasn't been released, he is pursuing another job (Oakland). Marvin said they are not waiting to replace him.

Aside from the points I mentioned above, Marvin has come across as very obtuse in this press conference. I don't look for a whole heck of a lot to change. He honestly is trying to act as if things are pretty good, they just need to work a little harder in practice and in game situations.

Draft the tackle from Notre Dame McGlinchey with the 1st rounder and do whatever necessary to draft Billy Price out of OSU to be your center!

(01-03-2018 10:28 AM)JunctaJuvant Wrote:  This is a Serious Question for all the Bengals Fans. Why do you continue to put yourself through this misery? Any why would anyone continue to purchase tickets for that garbage product they put on the field?

Nobody who is a season ticket holder/fan is an advocate of Mike Brown...but they put their heart and soul into the franchise because success will be that much sweeter when it comes.

It's the SAME logic behind why people continue to support Bearcat FB despite lack of historical success...because success will be that much sweeter when it comes.

GET IT!

It’s out of conditioning. Habit.

I support bearcat football because I went to the school and the school did something positive for my family and for generations of my community. The Bengals never did a damn thing for me other than take my money and screw over taxpayers.

I know several season-ticket holder’s who not only walked away from their tickets but who have started following other NFL teams. It’s like a group epiphany. They don’t have to follow a NFL team just because it has their city mailing address in the name.

People are finally waking up en masse.

It's infuriating. Apart from an abysmal o-line the Bengals are a pretty good football team (with a few exceptions here and there like Kirkpatrick and the OLBs). With a good draft and a decent free agency period there's legit reason to believe they could win a playoff game next year. Sadly, I don't think that'll be the case without a coaching change.

I was waiting for the Bengals to make a bold stroke on the national stage--such as hiring Urban Meyer. But I woke up, rolled over, and remembered it was still the same old, tired franchise. And that will likely remain the case for the foreseeable future.

What will be the parting shot for the Brown family? Backing up the trailers in the middle of the night, Baltimore Colts style, to move their "business"? A fresh start in a city so hungry for the NFL, newly minted fans will camp out for season tickets and scoop up their (ugly) licensed merchandise? Ownership showed great foresight by making their logo a "B" and not a "C". They can now move seamlessly into Las Vegas, Austin or San Diego without even needing to re-brand.

Of course the final insult will be sticking the taxpayers with a bookend white elephant west of Great American to match USBank Arena on the east. All this in a few short years when their lease is up and they exit Hamilton County stage left with we taxpayers holding the bag. If they'd only leave sooner, we'd be saved the cost of building yet another county-subsidized venue for FC Cincinnati. And I'm not opposed to FCC; in fact I give them credit. Their ownership group is investing mostly their own money and seems committed to building a winner for our area.

Cincinnati's 50 year romance with the Bengals has gone the way of the song B. B. King made famous, "The Thrill is Gone". Will an ugly divorce soon follow when the lease expires?

When is the bengals lease up?

Who has the option to renew? Only the bengals or is it a mutual thing?

I would love for the city to tell them to F off and sell it to FCC.

(01-04-2018 04:19 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  When is the bengals lease up?

Who has the option to renew? Only the bengals or is it a mutual thing?

I would love for the city to tell them to F off and sell it to FCC.

2026 and then the Bengals can exercise five 2 year options if they don’t take the cash to move someplace else.

(01-04-2018 04:29 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:19 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  When is the bengals lease up?

Who has the option to renew? Only the bengals or is it a mutual thing?

I would love for the city to tell them to F off and sell it to FCC.

2026 and then the Bengals can exercise five 2 year options if they don’t take the cash to move someplace else.

For some reason I thought it was a lot sooner than that.

(01-04-2018 05:15 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:29 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:19 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  When is the bengals lease up?

Who has the option to renew? Only the bengals or is it a mutual thing?

I would love for the city to tell them to F off and sell it to FCC.

2026 and then the Bengals can exercise five 2 year options if they don’t take the cash to move someplace else.

For some reason I thought it was a lot sooner than that.

You're confusing it with conference realignment.

(01-04-2018 04:29 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:19 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  When is the bengals lease up?

Who has the option to renew? Only the bengals or is it a mutual thing?

I would love for the city to tell them to F off and sell it to FCC.

2026 and then the Bengals can exercise five 2 year options if they don’t take the cash to move someplace else.

I’m convinced this is all a ploy by the Brown family to drive attendance numbers down in order to make their case to move the team.

(01-04-2018 06:09 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:29 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:19 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  When is the bengals lease up?

Who has the option to renew? Only the bengals or is it a mutual thing?

I would love for the city to tell them to F off and sell it to FCC.

2026 and then the Bengals can exercise five 2 year options if they don’t take the cash to move someplace else.

I’m convinced this is all a ploy by the Brown family to drive attendance numbers down in order to make their case to move the team.

An NFL owner doesn't need to "make a case" to move a franchise--ask the people of Baltimore and Cleveland.

I’m calling it right now. The bengals win two playoff games next year. It will happen.

(01-05-2018 04:59 AM)Not Duane Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 06:09 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:29 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-04-2018 04:19 PM)BeerCat Wrote:  When is the bengals lease up?

Who has the option to renew? Only the bengals or is it a mutual thing?

I would love for the city to tell them to F off and sell it to FCC.

2026 and then the Bengals can exercise five 2 year options if they don’t take the cash to move someplace else.

I’m convinced this is all a ploy by the Brown family to drive attendance numbers down in order to make their case to move the team.

An NFL owner doesn't need to "make a case" to move a franchise--ask the people of Baltimore and Cleveland.

Or St. Louis, San Diego, and Oakland.

just shut up and watch it

As bad as the Bengals have choked in postseason games they're still second to KC in that category. Wow.

(01-06-2018 07:59 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  As bad as the Bengals have choked in postseason games they're still second to KC in that category. Wow.

i was just going to ask, if you had to choose between Marv and Andy Reid, who would you take? Honestly, it seems like they are the same type of coach so maybe the question is moot.

Andy Reid has been to a Super Bowl and multiple championship games. Andy Reid hands down. But that doesn't mean he's not a bad big game coach

Kelce going out with a concussion in the 2qtr had to of helped.

No doubt but you can't lose a 21-3 lead at home even if one of your top skill players goes down.

FYI Reid is 11-13 career playoff record so the Marv comparison isn't really fair. Franchise wise KC& the Bengals is a close call on choking.

This ought to be interesting. Enquirer Bengals beat writer Paul Dehner Jr is going to dispel or prove the most common fan complaints about Marvin Lewis. Today he discusses whether Marvin's lack of halftime adjustments are fact or fiction.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/...007231001/

Mike Brown-Marvin Lewis fact or fiction: Cincinnati Bengals lacking halftime adjustments?
Paul Dehner Jr., pdehnerjr@enquirer.com Published 11:23 a.m. ET Jan. 7, 2018 | Updated 12:55 p.m. ET Jan. 7, 2018

Some people are mad. Others apathetic. A few supportive. We’ve even reached the burning jerseys in the snow and posting to social media portion of the program.

One aspect we can settle on in the wake of Marvin Lewis’ controversial return on a two-year contract: Everybody has an opinion.

The problem is, these opinions aren’t always based in fact. After 15 years, criticisms shifted both Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis into almost caricatures of themselves. It’s easy to lose sight of what complaints own merit and which are fallacy repeated into relevancy.

So, I asked those of you filling up my mentions to drop your primary gripe with Brown and Lewis on me, so I could find the most stated and dive into whether these are fact or fiction.

This came with the caveat of 0-7 in the playoffs not serving as a viable complaint because it’s the obvious, undeniable failure of the Lewis-Brown partnership.

Over the next five days, I take on the five most mentioned.

Today: Lewis struggles with halftime adjustments?

This showed up the most because it burns vividly into the recent memory of fans. The last two seasons have been filled with prominent games where the Bengals jumped out to leads at the break and were flattened in the second half.

If not for the shocking fourth-and-12 touchdown against Baltimore, the dramatic season finale would have looked like so many disappointments of a double-digit halftime evaporated into a day of what could have been.

Lewis debates the validity of “halftime adjustments.” With 12 minutes to enter the locker room and return to the field, only so many changes in plans can be discussed, to be certain.

“The ‘adjustment,’ that’s more journalism jargon than truth,” he said in a press conference to close the 2016 season.

Whether talking about actual adjustments or evaluating late-game performance, that’s merely semantics.

The truth lies in the numbers, in this case.

Let’s start with the last two seasons before pulling back to the big picture.

In the 14 games where the Bengals led at the half the last two years they went 9-5. The .643 winning percentage ranks 28th in the NFL over that span.

Since the Andy Dalton-A.J. Green Era commenced in 2011, the Bengals led at the half 59 times. They finished 44-14-1 in those games. That .754 record ranks 18th in the NFL over the span.

Now running all the way back to the beginning of the Marvin Lewis Era, the Bengals have gone 88-31-2 in games where they led at halftime. That .736 mark ranks 23rd in the NFL over that time.

Only once in Lewis’ 15 seasons have the Bengals finished in the top 10 of the NFL in protecting halftime leads. On the flip side, seven times they finished in the bottom 10.

No matter the era of which you break down, the Bengals have finished in the bottom half of the league or worse in holding on to a halftime lead.

The New England Patriots, unsurprisingly, lead the NFL in protecting leads over the span with a .913 winning percentage, going 147-14 when leading at the break since 2003.

Perhaps a better comparison would be the Bengals’ direct AFC North rival, Pittsburgh. The Steelers rank third in the NFL over the Lewis Era with a .865 winning percentage.

If the Bengals would have protected halftime leads at the same clip during the Lewis Era, they would have 17 more wins. That equates to more than one win per season and on more than one occasion serve as the difference between winning and losing the division or making the playoffs.

Speaking of the postseason, Cincinnati owned a halftime lead in two of the seven playoff losses. In 2005 against Pittsburgh and 2013 against the Chargers they led at the break by a field goal. They were outscored by a combined 37 points after halftime in those defeats.

Whether all this stems from “adjustments” or that’s truly journalism jargon for teams that don’t make enough plays in defining moments probably doesn’t matter in this case.

Call it what you want, the numbers back up the most common fan complaint.

FINAL JUDGEMENT: Fact