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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 08:59 AM)fsquid Wrote: A good number knelt at the early game in London. So this should be an interesting day
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Big crowd there too. So the NFL has the option to move more games to Europe.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 08:53 AM)miko33 Wrote:
- Trump is not a conservative.
Let me stop you right there. You own him. He's 100% yours now. Drink it in man.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
I hear Trump is combining some of his failed idea in an effort to streamline. His first new plan - to build a wall around every NFL stadium.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
Regardless of how I feel about this issue....I totally condemn Donald Trump for his comments. That was not the way the leader of the free world should be speaking in public. It is simply deplorable and I hope that the NFL players will send him a clear message of their condemnation. I expect to see players (black and white) to participate together against this. Trump did nothing but spur further kneeling and protest with is foolish, divisive and vulgar comments. Actions and words have consequences.
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Trump calls for NFL boycott.
Marginalizing muh resistence... love it! Conservatives own Trump, but by engaging this, liberals own Kaepernick and taking a knee... and next time one of these kneelers beats his girlfriend or gang rapes a teenage girl, you own that too.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
Both teams took a knee for the anthem this morning (not every player - some did not kneel). They apparently stood during the playing of God Save The Queen (the early game is being played in London). At least they were showing respect for their hosts.
It is an interesting dynamic, I'll grant you that.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 09:20 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Regardless of how I feel about this issue....I totally condemn Donald Trump for his comments. That was not the way the leader of the free world should be speaking in public. It is simply deplorable and I hope that the NFL players will send him a clear message of their condemnation. I expect to see players (black and white) to participate together against this. Trump did nothing but spur further kneeling and protest with is foolish, divisive and vulgar comments. Actions and words have consequences.
I'm sure a lot of the players think the kneeling players are foolish, divisive and vulgar.
Some people will like what Trump has said. Others, like me, think he should focus on other things instead of trivia. Some won't like it. Some won't care either way. It will probably split just like the vote did.
The NFL and the players are the long run losers in this.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
https://amgreatness.com/2017/09/23/kaepe...ts-bubble/
"...What’s more there is a time-honored tradition of sportsmanship that lauds discipline, teamwork, fair play, and both winning and losing with good humor and dignity. Sports have traditionally been a refuge from cultural and political controversy where Americans could come together and enjoy time with family, friends, and even complete strangers. Entering the stadium, they could check the cares of the world at the turnstile. That’s changed recently.
Intoxicated with their own sense of self-righteousness today’s athlete-protesters look more like rich drunks spouting nonsense than responsible citizens seeking redress. And in doing so they have popped the sports bubble and reminded us that we should stop idolizing overprivileged millionaire Millennials who disrespect this country, her people, and her history. Millions of Americans have recoiled at the divisiveness brought into sports by people like Kaepernick and Curry. And for this we can thank them."
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-23-2017 08:15 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: How does he take such a hard stand on this, but wants us to have a nuanced understanding of the white supremacists in Charlottesville? There were good people on the white supremacists side, but the NFL players are "sons of *******".
It's inconsistent, it's petty, it's even more divisive than what was happening before.
You don't get many presidents publicly going against the first amendment saying that people should be fired for using it.
Trump isn't going against the first amendment.
He (the government) is not infringing on the player's right to protest...
The players have the right to kneel, spit, curse, or set the flag on fire if they want. No one from the government is stopping them. No one is cuffing them and throwing them in prison for voicing their opinion.
However...just as the US guarantees them the right to protest...
Their employers have the right to fire them for doing things that reflect poorly on the organization that employs them or cost their employers money via lost audience.
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Trump calls for NFL boycott.
"Family, brothers, my grandfather severed in the navy, people that have served in this country, men and women, people that have lost their lives ... family members who have lost somebody. To me, that is why we stand for the National Anthem, because they give us the freedom to play this game."
Pretty sad when even Ben Roethlisberger owns the moral authority over the alt-left.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
So you had 1 or 2 players kneeling in each game. Trump makes this an issue and now you had 20 or so.
But it distracts from health care and tax reform
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 09:25 AM)bullet Wrote: (09-24-2017 09:20 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Regardless of how I feel about this issue....I totally condemn Donald Trump for his comments. That was not the way the leader of the free world should be speaking in public. It is simply deplorable and I hope that the NFL players will send him a clear message of their condemnation. I expect to see players (black and white) to participate together against this. Trump did nothing but spur further kneeling and protest with is foolish, divisive and vulgar comments. Actions and words have consequences.
I'm sure a lot of the players think the kneeling players are foolish, divisive and vulgar.
Some people will like what Trump has said. Others, like me, think he should focus on other things instead of trivia. Some won't like it. Some won't care either way. It will probably split just like the vote did.
The NFL and the players are the long run losers in this.
The entire thing is terrible for the sport and the country.
It seems that from the comments coming out from the owners this morning are clearly on the side of the players. I wonder if now one of the owners hires Kap. It would be ironic that the POTUS's comments get him back on a team.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 09:20 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Regardless of how I feel about this issue....I totally condemn Donald Trump for his comments. That was not the way the leader of the free world should be speaking in public. It is simply deplorable and I hope that the NFL players will send him a clear message of their condemnation. I expect to see players (black and white) to participate together against this. Trump did nothing but spur further kneeling and protest with is foolish, divisive and vulgar comments. Actions and words have consequences.
Yep, he opened his pie hole and out spewed more stupidity. They are kneeling now in protest to his idiocy. I didn't care for the seemingly baseless empty protests, but if one chose to, big woop-dee-do, but I'm fine with protesting the government. When they call for private business to fire people, we all should protest.
Right used to. I don't know why they've changed and become the new brown shirts. Oh, that's right. Trump.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 09:21 AM)EverRespect Wrote: Marginalizing muh resistence... love it! Conservatives own Trump, but by engaging this, liberals own Kaepernick and taking a knee... and next time one of these kneelers beats his girlfriend or gang rapes a teenage girl, you own that too.
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Whoa, whoa. LOL. You sure you want to go down that rabbit hole with Trump around your neck. You want to own grabbing them by the *****. There's much more to come from the Donald. He's the gift that keeps on giving. I'm just going to pretend you didn't say that and let you off the hook.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 09:28 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: (09-23-2017 08:15 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: How does he take such a hard stand on this, but wants us to have a nuanced understanding of the white supremacists in Charlottesville? There were good people on the white supremacists side, but the NFL players are "sons of *******".
It's inconsistent, it's petty, it's even more divisive than what was happening before.
You don't get many presidents publicly going against the first amendment saying that people should be fired for using it.
Trump isn't going against the first amendment.
He (the government) is not infringing on the player's right to protest...
The players have the right to kneel, spit, curse, or set the flag on fire if they want. No one from the government is stopping them. No one is cuffing them and throwing them in prison for voicing their opinion.
However...just as the US guarantees them the right to protest...
Their employers have the right to fire them for doing things that reflect poorly on the organization that employs them or cost their employers money via lost audience.
...but...ironically the owners this morning are clearly on the side of the players after Trumps comments. He caused the exact opposite reaction that he wanted.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 09:39 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (09-24-2017 09:25 AM)bullet Wrote: (09-24-2017 09:20 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Regardless of how I feel about this issue....I totally condemn Donald Trump for his comments. That was not the way the leader of the free world should be speaking in public. It is simply deplorable and I hope that the NFL players will send him a clear message of their condemnation. I expect to see players (black and white) to participate together against this. Trump did nothing but spur further kneeling and protest with is foolish, divisive and vulgar comments. Actions and words have consequences.
I'm sure a lot of the players think the kneeling players are foolish, divisive and vulgar.
Some people will like what Trump has said. Others, like me, think he should focus on other things instead of trivia. Some won't like it. Some won't care either way. It will probably split just like the vote did.
The NFL and the players are the long run losers in this.
The entire thing is terrible for the sport and the country.
It seems that from the comments coming out from the owners this morning are clearly on the side of the players. I wonder if now one of the owners hires Kap. It would be ironic that the POTUS's comments get him back on a team.
Owners are arrogant prima donnas every bit as much as the players and even more so than politicians. They will end up cutting off their nose to spite their face.
And that's good. Its ridiculous we are subsidizing the replacement of 20-25 year old stadiums for billionaires.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 09:42 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (09-24-2017 09:28 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: (09-23-2017 08:15 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: How does he take such a hard stand on this, but wants us to have a nuanced understanding of the white supremacists in Charlottesville? There were good people on the white supremacists side, but the NFL players are "sons of *******".
It's inconsistent, it's petty, it's even more divisive than what was happening before.
You don't get many presidents publicly going against the first amendment saying that people should be fired for using it.
Trump isn't going against the first amendment.
He (the government) is not infringing on the player's right to protest...
The players have the right to kneel, spit, curse, or set the flag on fire if they want. No one from the government is stopping them. No one is cuffing them and throwing them in prison for voicing their opinion.
However...just as the US guarantees them the right to protest...
Their employers have the right to fire them for doing things that reflect poorly on the organization that employs them or cost their employers money via lost audience.
...but...ironically the owners this morning are clearly on the side of the players after Trumps comments. He caused the exact opposite reaction that he wanted.
I don't know about that. Maybe he wanted to accelerate the process of the NFL destroying itself.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
It's up to the owners to run their business as they see fit. Trump should have stayed out of it. If they wanted to take action they were free to. Seems now they are and it's not what Dipshit wanted.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 09:41 AM)cb4029 Wrote: (09-24-2017 09:21 AM)EverRespect Wrote: Marginalizing muh resistence... love it! Conservatives own Trump, but by engaging this, liberals own Kaepernick and taking a knee... and next time one of these kneelers beats his girlfriend or gang rapes a teenage girl, you own that too.
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Whoa, whoa. LOL. You sure you want to go down that rabbit hole with Trump around your neck. You want to own grabbing them by the *****. There's much more to come from the Donald. He's the gift that keeps on giving. I'm just going to pretend you didn't say that and let you off the hook.
I actually like grabbing pu$$y. I think you do too, but you think you are virtue signaling.
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RE: Trump calls for NFL boycott.
(09-24-2017 09:45 AM)EverRespect Wrote: (09-24-2017 09:42 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (09-24-2017 09:28 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: (09-23-2017 08:15 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: How does he take such a hard stand on this, but wants us to have a nuanced understanding of the white supremacists in Charlottesville? There were good people on the white supremacists side, but the NFL players are "sons of *******".
It's inconsistent, it's petty, it's even more divisive than what was happening before.
You don't get many presidents publicly going against the first amendment saying that people should be fired for using it.
Trump isn't going against the first amendment.
He (the government) is not infringing on the player's right to protest...
The players have the right to kneel, spit, curse, or set the flag on fire if they want. No one from the government is stopping them. No one is cuffing them and throwing them in prison for voicing their opinion.
However...just as the US guarantees them the right to protest...
Their employers have the right to fire them for doing things that reflect poorly on the organization that employs them or cost their employers money via lost audience.
...but...ironically the owners this morning are clearly on the side of the players after Trumps comments. He caused the exact opposite reaction that he wanted.
I don't know about that. Maybe he wanted to accelerate the process of the NFL destroying itself.
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Im not sure what level chess he is playing if he wants to do that. He is a hypocrite anyway with his comments. Several years ago he weighed in on the Redskin name controversy and said that the POTUS should stay out of the issue and concentrate on real problems. He should have listened to his own advice.
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