(09-30-2017 04:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:14 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:09 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Despite Westhoff's unhinged rants, I don't think we should be calling for Applewhite's head just yet. The defense is pretty good, if not great.

The offense is a train wreck. Screen pass left, screen pass right, QB draw is not Houston football. Postma wasn't the convenient answer everyone was looking for.

So we shouldn’t blame our head coach who was also our oc for this disaster on offense? Got it guess it’s nobody’s fault then.

Do I need to remind you what we won and who all we beat (and had no business beating, given the talent disparity) with him as OC of this disaster of an offense?

Do i need to remind you herman mentioned multiple times overruling applewhite on offense becuase he didn’t agree with the play calling? It wasn’t applewhite that won us those games.

Yeah, because I don't remember that -- and I doubt that it happened. UT fans are asking for the offensive version of Todd Orlando, so I guess Herman has lost his overrule magic.

(09-30-2017 12:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 12:40 PM)vcoog Wrote:  This team does look bad though I think ward masked a lot of our offensive problems

No applewhite is simply making this team bad. He was a terrible hire, he was a bad coordinator too, but then some genius thought that making him a head coach would suddenly make him good.

I agree. He was the safe/cheap hire. Todd Orlando was the virtual coach in waiting. Maybe he didn't interview well or something else similar. I don't know, I just don't understand why he didn't get the nod or some up and comer elsewhere.

(09-30-2017 04:23 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:14 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:09 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Despite Westhoff's unhinged rants, I don't think we should be calling for Applewhite's head just yet. The defense is pretty good, if not great.

The offense is a train wreck. Screen pass left, screen pass right, QB draw is not Houston football. Postma wasn't the convenient answer everyone was looking for.

So we shouldn’t blame our head coach who was also our oc for this disaster on offense? Got it guess it’s nobody’s fault then.

Do I need to remind you what we won and who all we beat (and had no business beating, given the talent disparity) with him as OC of this disaster of an offense?

Do i need to remind you herman mentioned multiple times overruling applewhite on offense becuase he didn’t agree with the play calling? It wasn’t applewhite that won us those games.

Yeah, because I don't remember that -- and I doubt that it happened. UT fans are asking for the offensive version of Todd Orlando, so I guess Herman has lost his overrule magic.

Well considering Todd Orlando is a DC i dont think they will ever see an offensive version of him...

(09-30-2017 04:28 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 12:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 12:40 PM)vcoog Wrote:  This team does look bad though I think ward masked a lot of our offensive problems

No applewhite is simply making this team bad. He was a terrible hire, he was a bad coordinator too, but then some genius thought that making him a head coach would suddenly make him good.

I agree. He was the safe/cheap hire. Todd Orlando was the virtual coach in waiting. Maybe he didn't interview well or something else similar. I don't know, I just don't understand why he didn't get the nod or some up and comer elsewhere.

Supposedly he didn’t want the job and wanted to follow herman to UT as his DC.

(09-30-2017 04:32 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:23 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:14 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  So we shouldn’t blame our head coach who was also our oc for this disaster on offense? Got it guess it’s nobody’s fault then.

Do I need to remind you what we won and who all we beat (and had no business beating, given the talent disparity) with him as OC of this disaster of an offense?

Do i need to remind you herman mentioned multiple times overruling applewhite on offense becuase he didn’t agree with the play calling? It wasn’t applewhite that won us those games.

Yeah, because I don't remember that -- and I doubt that it happened. UT fans are asking for the offensive version of Todd Orlando, so I guess Herman has lost his overrule magic.

Well considering Todd Orlando is a DC i dont think they will ever see an offensive version of him...

They want on offense what Orlando gives them on defense.

(09-30-2017 04:37 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:32 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:23 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:20 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Do I need to remind you what we won and who all we beat (and had no business beating, given the talent disparity) with him as OC of this disaster of an offense?

Do i need to remind you herman mentioned multiple times overruling applewhite on offense becuase he didn’t agree with the play calling? It wasn’t applewhite that won us those games.

Yeah, because I don't remember that -- and I doubt that it happened. UT fans are asking for the offensive version of Todd Orlando, so I guess Herman has lost his overrule magic.

Well considering Todd Orlando is a DC i dont think they will ever see an offensive version of him...

They want on offense what Orlando gives them on defense.

Oh ok i see what your saying. But the usc game clearly showed that ut can have offense. So maybe herman is still deciding to let whoever the oc is have more power than at UH.

East AAC is a Beast

Hermann did question the playcalling of Applewhite a few times. I remember him talking to the press about that.

I don't understand the repetitive horizontal passing game and the bashing the back directly up the middle for losses and minimal gains. But the coaches are concentrating on turnovers? Please

(09-30-2017 05:26 PM)strongv Wrote:  Hermann did question the playcalling of Applewhite a few times. I remember him talking to the press about that.

I don't understand the repetitive horizontal passing game and the bashing the back directly up the middle for losses and minimal gains. But the coaches are concentrating on turnovers? Please

Exactly! Every one of those run up the middle plays we saw the past 2 seasons were typical applewhite. All the explosive plays and trick plays were herman.

Applewhite's play calling was all over that SMU debacle.

(09-30-2017 05:37 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Applewhite's play calling was all over that SMU debacle.

Apparently that earns you a head coaching job.

Westhoff, you said that " you tell it like it is" this is not remotely true, you spray a blanket of horse s**t and some of it will land on the truth

(09-30-2017 03:40 PM)UHRedcat96 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 02:22 PM)vcoog Wrote:  Felt like the arizona game. We won but it wasn't because we earned it.

The players played hard and earned it. But the OC and Applewhite took the air out of the ball. I can't recall any downfield throws after the first drive of the 2nd half.

Congrats D for holding on. O is making them work WAAAaAAAY too hard.

This. Once we went up 20-0, Applewhite went to the fb equivalent of the four corners offense. it almost bit us in the ass. Hopefully he'll learn from this.

(09-30-2017 06:17 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  Westhoff, you said that " you tell it like it is" this is not remotely true, you spray a blanket of horse s**t and some of it will land on the truth

Have i not been consistent in saying that applewhite would not be a good coach? So far i have not been wrong. Not sure how that is horse ****... sorry im not going to put on the rose colored glasses just becuase im a coog fan.

I dunno, some Coog fans just gotta go cry in their beer over a win.

I'm not upset Applewhite isn't letting either of our QBs fling it around so much, Allen is a turnover machine right now and Postma really isn't that accurate - which in turn leads to being a turnover machine. At least Applewhite seems to be nipping that in the bud with Postma.

One thing though that really bugs me is how our receivers can't seem to hold a block on those bubble screens, those seem to get blown up pretty regularly this year.

But this is my take, poor execution makes every play call look like the wrong play call. We're executing just well enough to win against average teams.

(09-30-2017 08:54 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  I dunno, some Coog fans just gotta go cry in their beer over a win.

I'm not upset Applewhite isn't letting either of our QBs fling it around so much, Allen is a turnover machine right now and Postma really isn't that accurate - which in turn leads to being a turnover machine. At least Applewhite seems to be nipping that in the bud with Postma.

One thing though that really bugs me is how our receivers can't seem to hold a block on those bubble screens, those seem to get blown up pretty regularly this year.

But this is my take, poor execution makes every play call look like the wrong play call. We're executing just well enough to win against average teams.

Poor blocking on bubble screens is a coaching issue. Pretty much anyone can put a block on a DB. These guys don't take much pride in it and the coaches are letting it happen.

(09-30-2017 04:28 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 12:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 12:40 PM)vcoog Wrote:  This team does look bad though I think ward masked a lot of our offensive problems

No applewhite is simply making this team bad. He was a terrible hire, he was a bad coordinator too, but then some genius thought that making him a head coach would suddenly make him good.

I agree. He was the safe/cheap hire. Todd Orlando was the virtual coach in waiting. Maybe he didn't interview well or something else similar. I don't know, I just don't understand why he didn't get the nod or some up and comer elsewhere.

I hate hate hate internal coaching hires. I think they are lazy hires. They are almost always a compromise and they are almost universially NOT the best candidate available nationwide. That said, while it is clear Applewhite is not going to be an instant Tom Herman type success story---that doesn't mean he won't eventually be very successful here. If do think coaches do a ton of improving between year one and year two. Even Levine was far better in his second year. Applewhite is a much better more competent coach than Levine was---so--I think Applewhite ceiling is much higher.

(09-30-2017 09:41 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 04:28 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 12:43 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-30-2017 12:40 PM)vcoog Wrote:  This team does look bad though I think ward masked a lot of our offensive problems

No applewhite is simply making this team bad. He was a terrible hire, he was a bad coordinator too, but then some genius thought that making him a head coach would suddenly make him good.

I agree. He was the safe/cheap hire. Todd Orlando was the virtual coach in waiting. Maybe he didn't interview well or something else similar. I don't know, I just don't understand why he didn't get the nod or some up and comer elsewhere.

I hate hate hate internal coaching hires. I think they are lazy hires. They are almost always a compromise and they are almost universially NOT the best candidate available nationwide. That said, while it is clear Applewhite is not going to be an instant Tom Herman type success story---that doesn't mean he won't eventually be very successful here. If do think coaches do a ton of improving between year one and year two. Even Levine was far better in his second year. Applewhite is a much better more competent coach than Levine was---so--I think Applewhite ceiling is much higher.

Only time will tell i guess. We only get one more year with oliver and this is postma’s senior year, so i have a hard time believing we get much improvement year 2.