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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
The issue with the whole Roy Moore situation is that we have yet to know for a fact if the guy is guilty of assault or not. One thing that is objectively clear is that he liked his women YOUNG. They may have been old enough to legally consent to a sexual relationship; however, IMHO that makes Roy Moore a creepy perv. If he's cruising for high school girls to have serious relationships with, I question his maturity and judgement. If he's cruising for these high school aged girls just to get a piece of ass - then throw that fvckers moral credentials out the window.

Having said all of that and given that we do not know if he's committed any crimes - it's up to the state of Alabama on whether Roy Moore is fit for office or not. The rest of the senate should have ZERO say on who Alabama chooses to represent them in the senate. If that was the case, then I would demand that a number of the current dick wads in the senate get tossed out for their foibles. All the fvckers who cheated on their spouses - and we know who they are - deserve to get their asses booted from the senate too. If we're making values based decisions - then all moral failures are fair game.

Obviously if Roy Moore is guilty of statutory rape and/or sexual assault, then he should be disqualified. However, if nothing is proven before the election starts, then it's up to the GOP of Alabama to make the decision on whether Roy Moore should be allowed to run or not given the potential mess we see here.
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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
(11-17-2017 11:35 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:32 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:29 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:26 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's where we stand today on Roy Moore

Roy Moore's accusers so far

1) Tina Johnson (28 at the time of the accusation) - Alleged that Roy Moore groped her when she was in his law office with her own mother http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11...didnt.html She currently considers herself a 'devout Christian'. I seriously doubt she's a Clinton voter btw. Records support that Ms. Johnson did go to Roy Moore's office at that time.
2) Kelly Harrison (17) - Accuses Roy Moore of asking her out.
3) Gena Richardson (16) - Accuses Roy Moore of forcibly kissing her. After calling the principal to get her out of a Trig class so he could ask her out after he chatted with her at the Sears in Gadsden Mall. She's a Republican, but didn't vote in the last couple of elections. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investiga...f332c69e5c
Her story is corroborated by another coworker at Sears who was also a classmate of hers.
4) Phyllis Smith (18) - Remembers Moore stalking women in a junior girls store where she worked in Gadsden Mall.
5) Becky Gray (22) - Rejected Roy asking her out while working at Pizzitz in Gadsden Mall. She complained to her manager about Moore
6) Leigh Corfman (14) - Alleged sexual contact. https://www.snopes.com/did-washington-po...oy-moore/. Elements of the Miss Corfman's accuasations were validated by a childhood classmate, Patti Spratlin. Miss Spratlin is so pro-life that she cannot vote for Jones, but will be writing someone's name in. http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017...aj-story-1
7) Wendy Miller (16) - Rejected advances from Moore when Moore asked her out on a date while she was working as a Santa's Helper at AGE 14 at - you guessed it - Gadsden Mall. Her mother, quite correctly, forbade Moore to take her out when he asked her out when she was 16.
8) Debbie Gibson (17) - Dated Roy Moore after chatting her up in her high school
9) Gloria Thacker Deason (18) - Dated Roy Moore, who plied her with wine (drinking age in Alabama was never less than 19). Moore picked her up at a high school football game.
10) Beverly Young Nelson (16) - Alleged sexual assault. She's the one with the yearbook

About 85% of Etowah County's white population voted for Trump. I'm not sure there so much as one Democrat in that bunch of accusers. Most of them don't know each other either. Furthermore, there is massive amounts of additional stories coming out from a large number of people who worked at Gadsden Mall who reported Moore going up to girls to try to pick them up.

Why are you re-posting the same stuff as last night?
No new talking points yet this morning?

Sexually assaulted women are not talking points, but it's nice to see where you stand on the issue. Grats on the morality.

Your obviously intentional omission of the world "allegedly" speaks volumes about your morals.

You're right, it's just a case of he said she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said. I'm not convicting him of a crime, so you can stop the sanctimonious rubbish about them just being "allegations". At some point a rational person grasps that there is no reason to believe him over these women, and acts appropriately.
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And that't the problem Miko. The left has already convicted Moore because it is politically expedient, as have the establishment republicans that backed his primary opponent. Moore is on an island by himself, and with the spate of accusations against left leaning hollywood elites that have been proven or admitted to, hardly any effort has been given to attempting to validate nearly 40 year old claims against him.
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If Moore looses the news cycle on this will end about 24 hours after the election. This is all politics. It's the new playbook going forward.
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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
(11-17-2017 12:07 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:35 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:32 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:29 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:26 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's where we stand today on Roy Moore

Roy Moore's accusers so far

1) Tina Johnson (28 at the time of the accusation) - Alleged that Roy Moore groped her when she was in his law office with her own mother http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11...didnt.html She currently considers herself a 'devout Christian'. I seriously doubt she's a Clinton voter btw. Records support that Ms. Johnson did go to Roy Moore's office at that time.
2) Kelly Harrison (17) - Accuses Roy Moore of asking her out.
3) Gena Richardson (16) - Accuses Roy Moore of forcibly kissing her. After calling the principal to get her out of a Trig class so he could ask her out after he chatted with her at the Sears in Gadsden Mall. She's a Republican, but didn't vote in the last couple of elections. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investiga...f332c69e5c
Her story is corroborated by another coworker at Sears who was also a classmate of hers.
4) Phyllis Smith (18) - Remembers Moore stalking women in a junior girls store where she worked in Gadsden Mall.
5) Becky Gray (22) - Rejected Roy asking her out while working at Pizzitz in Gadsden Mall. She complained to her manager about Moore
6) Leigh Corfman (14) - Alleged sexual contact. https://www.snopes.com/did-washington-po...oy-moore/. Elements of the Miss Corfman's accuasations were validated by a childhood classmate, Patti Spratlin. Miss Spratlin is so pro-life that she cannot vote for Jones, but will be writing someone's name in. http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017...aj-story-1
7) Wendy Miller (16) - Rejected advances from Moore when Moore asked her out on a date while she was working as a Santa's Helper at AGE 14 at - you guessed it - Gadsden Mall. Her mother, quite correctly, forbade Moore to take her out when he asked her out when she was 16.
8) Debbie Gibson (17) - Dated Roy Moore after chatting her up in her high school
9) Gloria Thacker Deason (18) - Dated Roy Moore, who plied her with wine (drinking age in Alabama was never less than 19). Moore picked her up at a high school football game.
10) Beverly Young Nelson (16) - Alleged sexual assault. She's the one with the yearbook

About 85% of Etowah County's white population voted for Trump. I'm not sure there so much as one Democrat in that bunch of accusers. Most of them don't know each other either. Furthermore, there is massive amounts of additional stories coming out from a large number of people who worked at Gadsden Mall who reported Moore going up to girls to try to pick them up.

Why are you re-posting the same stuff as last night?
No new talking points yet this morning?

Sexually assaulted women are not talking points, but it's nice to see where you stand on the issue. Grats on the morality.

Your obviously intentional omission of the world "allegedly" speaks volumes about your morals.

You're right, it's just a case of he said she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said. I'm not convicting him of a crime, so you can stop the sanctimonious rubbish about them just being "allegations". At some point a rational person grasps that there is no reason to believe him over these women, and acts appropriately.

Phony outrage? Confirmed
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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
(11-17-2017 12:07 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:35 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:32 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:29 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:26 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's where we stand today on Roy Moore

Roy Moore's accusers so far

1) Tina Johnson (28 at the time of the accusation) - Alleged that Roy Moore groped her when she was in his law office with her own mother http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11...didnt.html She currently considers herself a 'devout Christian'. I seriously doubt she's a Clinton voter btw. Records support that Ms. Johnson did go to Roy Moore's office at that time.
2) Kelly Harrison (17) - Accuses Roy Moore of asking her out.
3) Gena Richardson (16) - Accuses Roy Moore of forcibly kissing her. After calling the principal to get her out of a Trig class so he could ask her out after he chatted with her at the Sears in Gadsden Mall. She's a Republican, but didn't vote in the last couple of elections. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investiga...f332c69e5c
Her story is corroborated by another coworker at Sears who was also a classmate of hers.
4) Phyllis Smith (18) - Remembers Moore stalking women in a junior girls store where she worked in Gadsden Mall.
5) Becky Gray (22) - Rejected Roy asking her out while working at Pizzitz in Gadsden Mall. She complained to her manager about Moore
6) Leigh Corfman (14) - Alleged sexual contact. https://www.snopes.com/did-washington-po...oy-moore/. Elements of the Miss Corfman's accuasations were validated by a childhood classmate, Patti Spratlin. Miss Spratlin is so pro-life that she cannot vote for Jones, but will be writing someone's name in. http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017...aj-story-1
7) Wendy Miller (16) - Rejected advances from Moore when Moore asked her out on a date while she was working as a Santa's Helper at AGE 14 at - you guessed it - Gadsden Mall. Her mother, quite correctly, forbade Moore to take her out when he asked her out when she was 16.
8) Debbie Gibson (17) - Dated Roy Moore after chatting her up in her high school
9) Gloria Thacker Deason (18) - Dated Roy Moore, who plied her with wine (drinking age in Alabama was never less than 19). Moore picked her up at a high school football game.
10) Beverly Young Nelson (16) - Alleged sexual assault. She's the one with the yearbook

About 85% of Etowah County's white population voted for Trump. I'm not sure there so much as one Democrat in that bunch of accusers. Most of them don't know each other either. Furthermore, there is massive amounts of additional stories coming out from a large number of people who worked at Gadsden Mall who reported Moore going up to girls to try to pick them up.

Why are you re-posting the same stuff as last night?
No new talking points yet this morning?

Sexually assaulted women are not talking points, but it's nice to see where you stand on the issue. Grats on the morality.

Your obviously intentional omission of the world "allegedly" speaks volumes about your morals.

You're right, it's just a case of he said she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said. I'm not convicting him of a crime, so you can stop the sanctimonious rubbish about them just being "allegations". At some point a rational person grasps that there is no reason to believe him over these women, and acts appropriately.

The burden of proof lies with the accuser and so far, none of them have offered up any proof of inappropriate behavior against Moore. If there was even one piece of evidence or an accusation that could be corroborated by an impartial 3rd party or witness, one would think it would be made public. As this is entirely in the court of public opinion and not the court of law, there is no need for any supporting evidence. The simple accusations are enough.
It's worth noting too, that many of these accusations are not of any sort of sexual assault or illegal behavior.
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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
Since your movement has shrunk to the coastal fringes and I know that this is the new playbook, make notes for next time, alt-left. A month before the election is too much time to debunk your fake news. Maybe a week before would be better.
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The problem for the libturds is that people can think for themselves, research for themselves, and debunk the fake liberal talking points minutes after they are spewed, then discover that the other side is guilty of said talking points.

It used to be that you could spread fake accusations, and it would take months to sort it out.

Now we can do it in minutes. So the libturds are using the same old playbook, which doesnt work anymore. Whats worse is that they try it, then it backfires in their face within 24 hours.
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Roy Moore is just another Republican Looney toon. People are running away because he's crazy. The Republicans already have to put up with one fool in the white house. Why would they want another one running around in Washington.
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(11-17-2017 01:17 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Roy Moore is just another Republican Looney toon. People are running away because he's crazy. The Republicans already have to put up with one fool in the white house. Why would they want another one running around in Washington.

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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
(11-17-2017 12:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:07 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:35 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:32 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:29 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Why are you re-posting the same stuff as last night?
No new talking points yet this morning?

Sexually assaulted women are not talking points, but it's nice to see where you stand on the issue. Grats on the morality.

Your obviously intentional omission of the world "allegedly" speaks volumes about your morals.

You're right, it's just a case of he said she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said. I'm not convicting him of a crime, so you can stop the sanctimonious rubbish about them just being "allegations". At some point a rational person grasps that there is no reason to believe him over these women, and acts appropriately.

The burden of proof lies with the accuser and so far, none of them have offered up any proof of inappropriate behavior against Moore. If there was even one piece of evidence or an accusation that could be corroborated by an impartial 3rd party or witness, one would think it would be made public. As this is entirely in the court of public opinion and not the court of law, there is no need for any supporting evidence. The simple accusations are enough.
It's worth noting too, that many of these accusations are not of any sort of sexual assault or illegal behavior.

A plaintiff with a valid cause of action should pursue it with reasonable diligence.

By the time a stale claim is litigated, a defendant might have lost evidence necessary to disprove the claim.

Litigation of a long-dormant claim may result in more cruelty than justice..
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(11-17-2017 01:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:17 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Roy Moore is just another Republican Looney toon. People are running away because he's crazy. The Republicans already have to put up with one fool in the white house. Why would they want another one running around in Washington.

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I give it a 4.5. Still better thought out than the majority of leftist posters in here.
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(11-17-2017 01:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:07 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:35 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:32 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  Sexually assaulted women are not talking points, but it's nice to see where you stand on the issue. Grats on the morality.

Your obviously intentional omission of the world "allegedly" speaks volumes about your morals.

You're right, it's just a case of he said she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said. I'm not convicting him of a crime, so you can stop the sanctimonious rubbish about them just being "allegations". At some point a rational person grasps that there is no reason to believe him over these women, and acts appropriately.

The burden of proof lies with the accuser and so far, none of them have offered up any proof of inappropriate behavior against Moore. If there was even one piece of evidence or an accusation that could be corroborated by an impartial 3rd party or witness, one would think it would be made public. As this is entirely in the court of public opinion and not the court of law, there is no need for any supporting evidence. The simple accusations are enough.
It's worth noting too, that many of these accusations are not of any sort of sexual assault or illegal behavior.

A plaintiff with a valid cause of action should pursue it with reasonable diligence.

By the time a stale claim is litigated, a defendant might have lost evidence necessary to disprove the claim.

Litigation of a long-dormant claim may result in more cruelty than justice..

Out of Tom's list, there appear to be two instances that should have been pursued long ago. Strange that neither became public during the man's 30-some year career until last week.
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(11-17-2017 01:44 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:07 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:35 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Your obviously intentional omission of the world "allegedly" speaks volumes about your morals.

You're right, it's just a case of he said she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said. I'm not convicting him of a crime, so you can stop the sanctimonious rubbish about them just being "allegations". At some point a rational person grasps that there is no reason to believe him over these women, and acts appropriately.

The burden of proof lies with the accuser and so far, none of them have offered up any proof of inappropriate behavior against Moore. If there was even one piece of evidence or an accusation that could be corroborated by an impartial 3rd party or witness, one would think it would be made public. As this is entirely in the court of public opinion and not the court of law, there is no need for any supporting evidence. The simple accusations are enough.
It's worth noting too, that many of these accusations are not of any sort of sexual assault or illegal behavior.

A plaintiff with a valid cause of action should pursue it with reasonable diligence.

By the time a stale claim is litigated, a defendant might have lost evidence necessary to disprove the claim.

Litigation of a long-dormant claim may result in more cruelty than justice..

Out of Tom's list, there appear to be two instances that should have been pursued long ago. Strange that neither became public during the man's 30-some year career until last week.

It's almost as if there is a concerted movement to encourage victims of this sort to come out and say this sort of behavior happened to "me too". But alas, that's clearly not the case.
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(11-17-2017 01:48 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:44 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:07 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  You're right, it's just a case of he said she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said. I'm not convicting him of a crime, so you can stop the sanctimonious rubbish about them just being "allegations". At some point a rational person grasps that there is no reason to believe him over these women, and acts appropriately.

The burden of proof lies with the accuser and so far, none of them have offered up any proof of inappropriate behavior against Moore. If there was even one piece of evidence or an accusation that could be corroborated by an impartial 3rd party or witness, one would think it would be made public. As this is entirely in the court of public opinion and not the court of law, there is no need for any supporting evidence. The simple accusations are enough.
It's worth noting too, that many of these accusations are not of any sort of sexual assault or illegal behavior.

A plaintiff with a valid cause of action should pursue it with reasonable diligence.

By the time a stale claim is litigated, a defendant might have lost evidence necessary to disprove the claim.

Litigation of a long-dormant claim may result in more cruelty than justice..

Out of Tom's list, there appear to be two instances that should have been pursued long ago. Strange that neither became public during the man's 30-some year career until last week.

It's almost as if there is a concerted movement to encourage victims of this sort to come out and say this sort of behavior happened to "me too". But alas, that's clearly not the case.
People never lie in polls either.
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(11-17-2017 11:32 AM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:29 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 11:26 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's where we stand today on Roy Moore

Roy Moore's accusers so far

1) Tina Johnson (28 at the time of the accusation) - Alleged that Roy Moore groped her when she was in his law office with her own mother http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11...didnt.html She currently considers herself a 'devout Christian'. I seriously doubt she's a Clinton voter btw. Records support that Ms. Johnson did go to Roy Moore's office at that time.
2) Kelly Harrison (17) - Accuses Roy Moore of asking her out.
3) Gena Richardson (16) - Accuses Roy Moore of forcibly kissing her. After calling the principal to get her out of a Trig class so he could ask her out after he chatted with her at the Sears in Gadsden Mall. She's a Republican, but didn't vote in the last couple of elections. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investiga...f332c69e5c
Her story is corroborated by another coworker at Sears who was also a classmate of hers.
4) Phyllis Smith (18) - Remembers Moore stalking women in a junior girls store where she worked in Gadsden Mall.
5) Becky Gray (22) - Rejected Roy asking her out while working at Pizzitz in Gadsden Mall. She complained to her manager about Moore
6) Leigh Corfman (14) - Alleged sexual contact. https://www.snopes.com/did-washington-po...oy-moore/. Elements of the Miss Corfman's accuasations were validated by a childhood classmate, Patti Spratlin. Miss Spratlin is so pro-life that she cannot vote for Jones, but will be writing someone's name in. http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017...aj-story-1
7) Wendy Miller (16) - Rejected advances from Moore when Moore asked her out on a date while she was working as a Santa's Helper at AGE 14 at - you guessed it - Gadsden Mall. Her mother, quite correctly, forbade Moore to take her out when he asked her out when she was 16.
8) Debbie Gibson (17) - Dated Roy Moore after chatting her up in her high school
9) Gloria Thacker Deason (18) - Dated Roy Moore, who plied her with wine (drinking age in Alabama was never less than 19). Moore picked her up at a high school football game.
10) Beverly Young Nelson (16) - Alleged sexual assault. She's the one with the yearbook

About 85% of Etowah County's white population voted for Trump. I'm not sure there so much as one Democrat in that bunch of accusers. Most of them don't know each other either. Furthermore, there is massive amounts of additional stories coming out from a large number of people who worked at Gadsden Mall who reported Moore going up to girls to try to pick them up.

Why are you re-posting the same stuff as last night?
No new talking points yet this morning?

Sexually assaulted women are not talking points, but it's nice to see where you stand on the issue. Grats on the morality.

LOL...

We're all for people being held accountable for their actions -- not just those who belong to the other political ideology.

But we also value our judicial system -- namely, innocent until proven guilty.

In the case of Franken, he admitted what he did. Same with Louis and Spacey.

If they admit guilt I will assume they're telling the truth.

If they maintain their innocence then it really doesn't matter what you or I say. It matters what the jury or judge says.

So, see, your accusation about our moral stance is fallacious at best.


BTW, just curious... did you automatically believe Crystal Mangum? Did you just know deep down inside that those college boys were rapists?

If you just new she was a true victim do you feel like you were duped? That you actually in reality were cheering on a miscarriage of justice?

Do you look back on it and tell yourself, "They lied and I was a played for a fool?"


Because right now, we know nothing one way or the other. We see claims from women. We see denial from the accused. We see some evidence that has been scrutinized and been found to be questionable.


You keep telling yourself that the people who want justice to play out are wrong and that you -- willing to believe questionable accusations -- are right.
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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
(11-17-2017 01:48 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:44 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:07 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  You're right, it's just a case of he said she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said, and she said. I'm not convicting him of a crime, so you can stop the sanctimonious rubbish about them just being "allegations". At some point a rational person grasps that there is no reason to believe him over these women, and acts appropriately.

The burden of proof lies with the accuser and so far, none of them have offered up any proof of inappropriate behavior against Moore. If there was even one piece of evidence or an accusation that could be corroborated by an impartial 3rd party or witness, one would think it would be made public. As this is entirely in the court of public opinion and not the court of law, there is no need for any supporting evidence. The simple accusations are enough.
It's worth noting too, that many of these accusations are not of any sort of sexual assault or illegal behavior.

A plaintiff with a valid cause of action should pursue it with reasonable diligence.

By the time a stale claim is litigated, a defendant might have lost evidence necessary to disprove the claim.

Litigation of a long-dormant claim may result in more cruelty than justice..

Out of Tom's list, there appear to be two instances that should have been pursued long ago. Strange that neither became public during the man's 30-some year career until last week.

It's almost as if there is a concerted movement to encourage victims of this sort to come out and say this sort of behavior happened to "me too". But alas, that's clearly not the case.
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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
(11-17-2017 02:17 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:48 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:44 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 12:21 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  The burden of proof lies with the accuser and so far, none of them have offered up any proof of inappropriate behavior against Moore. If there was even one piece of evidence or an accusation that could be corroborated by an impartial 3rd party or witness, one would think it would be made public. As this is entirely in the court of public opinion and not the court of law, there is no need for any supporting evidence. The simple accusations are enough.
It's worth noting too, that many of these accusations are not of any sort of sexual assault or illegal behavior.

A plaintiff with a valid cause of action should pursue it with reasonable diligence.

By the time a stale claim is litigated, a defendant might have lost evidence necessary to disprove the claim.

Litigation of a long-dormant claim may result in more cruelty than justice..

Out of Tom's list, there appear to be two instances that should have been pursued long ago. Strange that neither became public during the man's 30-some year career until last week.

It's almost as if there is a concerted movement to encourage victims of this sort to come out and say this sort of behavior happened to "me too". But alas, that's clearly not the case.
People never lie in polls either.

What are you even talking about?
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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
It was Weinstein case that brought all these women out. More men are being called out even though Roy Moore's can't keep his hands off of underage girls that they do not get covered. Tom Sizemore is the case in point. He have always been in trouble with drugs, but now his latest scandal was touching a 12 year old girl's private parts.
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RE: Report That Alabama's Republican Candidate For Senate Accused Of Being A Pedophile
(11-17-2017 01:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(11-17-2017 01:17 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  Roy Moore is just another Republican Looney toon. People are running away because he's crazy. The Republicans already have to put up with one fool in the white house. Why would they want another one running around in Washington.

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Perhaps the best hope for Republicans is that Moore gets elected, then a serious charge actually sticks after he takes office. Then Governor Ivey can appoint a new Senator who happens to be a Republican.
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