(03-08-2018 10:00 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 06:54 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 12:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 03:49 PM)otown Wrote:  However, deep down inside, the powers that be know that the ENTIRE system collapses the second a G5 wins the playoff. They know a G5 is fully capable of playing through a playoff and winning everything......they know that there is a chance that once in a blue moon, one of those teams simply are the best. for this reason, an expanded playoff like this is not feasible in their eyes.

Why do you think this? Schools outside the Power conferences have won the hoops national title and the system didn't collapse, and BYU won the football title in 1984 and the world didn't end.

What exactly would collapse if a G5 won the national title?

Long story short, perception collapses. Perception is what drives everything in college football. Perception is what the media and cartel have worked so hard to craft to build up all the P5 conferences to maximize profits.

You can't talk about college football of the past and put it on equal footing of college football of the present. Ever since the early to mid 90s, college football has slowly been torn apart to create the monster it is now to maximize media money, individual conference power, and public perception of a select few chosen conferences. History be damned. Decades long tradition be damned.

Their 25 year old work of art has created this behemoth that in no way resembles anything college football of the past. So using BYU as an example means nothing. Their new product assures their built in advantages, and in turn, their built in profits.

Just use this year as an example. If we have previous years of Boise, Houston, TCU, UCF as being national champs, through BCS or CFP......... you really think it would have been that easy to leave an undefeated UCF out of the playoff using the CFP committee's logic? The public would laugh at them....... however, they have this 25 year thing called perception on their side. The perception leads people like yourself, pundits, and P5 t shirt fanboys to simply give the G5 zero chance in their NY6/BCS games.

As far as the argument that it would just build the resume of the newly minted G5 national champion to join a P5 conference? Not so fast. The media does not want to pay more money. The current conferences don't want to split another piece of the pie..... and most importantly, lets not start on politics. A lot of P5 schools could be located next to said school and don't want to further compete with them.

As far as the NCAA basketball? Completely apples to oranges. This is a system that has really never changed. The media hype during the tournament is built around Cinderella teams. The history and tradition is that everybody is included, at least a little. Now, if the major basketball conferences started putting in qualifiers and restrictions to leave a lot of the conferences out to the point that few few have an invite, in 25 years....... yes, we can have this same argument when a few generations grow up on the new garbage that has been shoved down their throats.

When/why did the NCAA lose control over college football? It is the only NCAA sport that does not have an NCAA champion. What makes every other NCAA sport great is that a true college champion is named with all schools eligible to participate. Look at how great the NCAA basketball championship is. The national championship that the P5 has been allowed to create in football with the exclusion of other FBS schools is an affront to college athletics.

That is just it. This product is a completely different one and is 25 years old. Unfortunately, that spans 1-2 generations. So many of the youngin pundits dont know difference.....which is why I find it particularly laughable when some old timers, who actually remember how things were prior to this nonsense, try to compare it as an apples to apples comparison.

(03-08-2018 10:00 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 06:54 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 12:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 03:49 PM)otown Wrote:  However, deep down inside, the powers that be know that the ENTIRE system collapses the second a G5 wins the playoff. They know a G5 is fully capable of playing through a playoff and winning everything......they know that there is a chance that once in a blue moon, one of those teams simply are the best. for this reason, an expanded playoff like this is not feasible in their eyes.

Why do you think this? Schools outside the Power conferences have won the hoops national title and the system didn't collapse, and BYU won the football title in 1984 and the world didn't end.

What exactly would collapse if a G5 won the national title?

Long story short, perception collapses. Perception is what drives everything in college football. Perception is what the media and cartel have worked so hard to craft to build up all the P5 conferences to maximize profits.

You can't talk about college football of the past and put it on equal footing of college football of the present. Ever since the early to mid 90s, college football has slowly been torn apart to create the monster it is now to maximize media money, individual conference power, and public perception of a select few chosen conferences. History be damned. Decades long tradition be damned.

Their 25 year old work of art has created this behemoth that in no way resembles anything college football of the past. So using BYU as an example means nothing. Their new product assures their built in advantages, and in turn, their built in profits.

Just use this year as an example. If we have previous years of Boise, Houston, TCU, UCF as being national champs, through BCS or CFP......... you really think it would have been that easy to leave an undefeated UCF out of the playoff using the CFP committee's logic? The public would laugh at them....... however, they have this 25 year thing called perception on their side. The perception leads people like yourself, pundits, and P5 t shirt fanboys to simply give the G5 zero chance in their NY6/BCS games.

As far as the argument that it would just build the resume of the newly minted G5 national champion to join a P5 conference? Not so fast. The media does not want to pay more money. The current conferences don't want to split another piece of the pie..... and most importantly, lets not start on politics. A lot of P5 schools could be located next to said school and don't want to further compete with them.

As far as the NCAA basketball? Completely apples to oranges. This is a system that has really never changed. The media hype during the tournament is built around Cinderella teams. The history and tradition is that everybody is included, at least a little. Now, if the major basketball conferences started putting in qualifiers and restrictions to leave a lot of the conferences out to the point that few few have an invite, in 25 years....... yes, we can have this same argument when a few generations grow up on the new garbage that has been shoved down their throats.

When/why did the NCAA lose control over college football? It is the only NCAA sport that does not have an NCAA champion. What makes every other NCAA sport great is that a true college champion is named with all schools eligible to participate. Look at how great the NCAA basketball championship is. The national championship that the P5 has been allowed to create in football with the exclusion of other FBS schools is an affront to college athletics.

And yet college football is more popular than all those great NCAA championship sports. Go figure.

What's funny is that many of the same folks around here who bash the NCAA constantly over governance issues like sanctions for cheating think it's the holy grail when it comes to picking a champ.

Sounds like the premier NCAA run playoff is doing pretty well.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men...television

(03-08-2018 12:09 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 10:00 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 06:54 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 12:02 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 03:49 PM)otown Wrote:  However, deep down inside, the powers that be know that the ENTIRE system collapses the second a G5 wins the playoff. They know a G5 is fully capable of playing through a playoff and winning everything......they know that there is a chance that once in a blue moon, one of those teams simply are the best. for this reason, an expanded playoff like this is not feasible in their eyes.

Why do you think this? Schools outside the Power conferences have won the hoops national title and the system didn't collapse, and BYU won the football title in 1984 and the world didn't end.

What exactly would collapse if a G5 won the national title?

Long story short, perception collapses. Perception is what drives everything in college football. Perception is what the media and cartel have worked so hard to craft to build up all the P5 conferences to maximize profits.

You can't talk about college football of the past and put it on equal footing of college football of the present. Ever since the early to mid 90s, college football has slowly been torn apart to create the monster it is now to maximize media money, individual conference power, and public perception of a select few chosen conferences. History be damned. Decades long tradition be damned.

Their 25 year old work of art has created this behemoth that in no way resembles anything college football of the past. So using BYU as an example means nothing. Their new product assures their built in advantages, and in turn, their built in profits.

Just use this year as an example. If we have previous years of Boise, Houston, TCU, UCF as being national champs, through BCS or CFP......... you really think it would have been that easy to leave an undefeated UCF out of the playoff using the CFP committee's logic? The public would laugh at them....... however, they have this 25 year thing called perception on their side. The perception leads people like yourself, pundits, and P5 t shirt fanboys to simply give the G5 zero chance in their NY6/BCS games.

As far as the argument that it would just build the resume of the newly minted G5 national champion to join a P5 conference? Not so fast. The media does not want to pay more money. The current conferences don't want to split another piece of the pie..... and most importantly, lets not start on politics. A lot of P5 schools could be located next to said school and don't want to further compete with them.

As far as the NCAA basketball? Completely apples to oranges. This is a system that has really never changed. The media hype during the tournament is built around Cinderella teams. The history and tradition is that everybody is included, at least a little. Now, if the major basketball conferences started putting in qualifiers and restrictions to leave a lot of the conferences out to the point that few few have an invite, in 25 years....... yes, we can have this same argument when a few generations grow up on the new garbage that has been shoved down their throats.

When/why did the NCAA lose control over college football? It is the only NCAA sport that does not have an NCAA champion. What makes every other NCAA sport great is that a true college champion is named with all schools eligible to participate. Look at how great the NCAA basketball championship is. The national championship that the P5 has been allowed to create in football with the exclusion of other FBS schools is an affront to college athletics.

And yet college football is more popular than all those great NCAA championship sports. Go figure.

What's funny is that many of the same folks around here who bash the NCAA constantly over governance issues like sanctions for cheating think it's the holy grail when it comes to picking a champ.

Well, it is football. That is a product of the sport. NFL is the most popular pro sport in the US, which also is surprise surprise...football.