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RE: With Alabama making the playoff ND looks to shift priorities
(01-06-2018 05:24 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 02:45 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 02:35 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(01-05-2018 03:06 PM)HRFlossY Wrote:  I like Notre Dames scheduling..... I just think they need to either go undefeated or have only one lose. Any thing less and it's not reason to discuss.
Be careful trying to soften up your schedule you don't make it too soft and get TCU'd...lol

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ND will not join a football conference unless and until the playoffs are legally mandated as P4 conference champs only.

Jack Swarbrick is on record saying this. Otherwise, it will be the status quo for ND going forward.

ND is good with where it now sits regarding the ACC, its schedules and the playoffs.

ND has known about the playoff implications as an independent for several years. Its answer is to try to make its schedule harder, not easier as Kelly suggests.

Here is what Swarbrick said just last July about ND football schedules in the playoff era:

"On scheduling at large, Swarbrick appears content with Notre Dame’s slates when married to the College Football Playoff contract that runs through 2025. The way Swarbrick sees it, Notre Dame needs a data point against at least four of the five Power 5 conferences if it’s going to make the field without a perfect regular season.


“We want markers against the major conferences,” Swarbrick said. “We’ll always have a Pac-12 marker, we’ll have two every year. More often than not we’ll have a Big Ten marker. We’ll always have an ACC marker.

"The focus was trying to build some SEC markers into the schedule with A&M, Georgia and Arkansas. We’ve been able to do that.”


https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame...s-74898435


He also said this last July:


"There will be years where not having a conference championship works against us. We understand that, we factor it into our calculus. But, given the schedules we’re building, I’ll be very comfortable arguing most years that our 12 games compare favorably with everybody else’s 13. When you say a 13-game schedule is superior to our 12-game schedule, you have to compare all the games. We’re building schedules that I think will stand up to that comparison well. They’ll be very tough to navigate. No one will ever accuse us of backing in with the schedules we’ve built for the future."


https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/co...467734001/


So, again, Brian Kelly has no say or authority over football independence or scheduling. He does not speak for the university on those issues, Jack Swarbrick does.

I would not get too worked up over anything Kelly says on this subject.

I think 2024 will be when this all plays out. Texas and ND has been the holy grail for Swofford. Not that I think it will happen but that appears to be the best hope is ND to join if Texas joins the ACC. I think OU and OSU to SEC and Texas and ND to the ACC would be great incredible. SEC gets Bedlam and TX plays OU, OK ST and Tx AM every three years as part of ACC/SEC rivalry weekend. Just have a feeling B10 will not allow this to happen.

How would the Big Ten stop it?

My guess is that he thinks the Big Ten would grab Texas?
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RE: With Alabama making the playoff ND looks to shift priorities
I like JR's latest stab at a solution:


So the P4 at 56:


B1G:

Notre Dame, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse

Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue

Illinois, Northwestern, Ohio State, Wisconsin

Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska

PAC:

California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, Washington State

Arizona, Arizona State, Cal Los Angeles, Colorado, Southern Cal, Utah

*************************************************************

SEC:

Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Miami

Alabama, Auburn, Louisville, Tennessee

Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas

Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M


ACC:

Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina

Maryland, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest
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Fail. :)
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(01-06-2018 07:37 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Fail. :)

I particularly like Notre Dame's position.
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(01-06-2018 03:48 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 02:31 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 08:47 AM)esayem Wrote:  The ACC and Notre Dame both know that the Irish don’t need the conference anymore. ND didn’t want to be lumped in with what the old Big East was becoming. Now, the Big East actually resembles much more of the original Big East which they joined. Consider that DePaul, Marquette, and Butler are three out of four of ND’s most played basketball opponents. I have no doubts that Notre Dame may be on the lookout to join the Big East come time. They will have no trouble continuing to build one of the country’s toughest and unique football schedules. In addition, their bowl prospects will once again be open again. 04-wine

Not happening. It will be status quo going forward for both ND and the ACC through 2036. Those deals are all done.

There is no chance ND will join the Big East. Absent a P4 champs only playoff setup, there is little chance that ND football will join the ACC.

In 2036, you heard it here first!

There won't be football in 2036. Most humans will die because of zombie apocalypse or be sold to aliens as slaves.
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I don't know about zombies or aliens, but total collapse of the current socio-political-economic system in the next 20 years... Plausible.
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(01-07-2018 07:09 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I don't know about zombies or aliens, but total collapse of the current socio-political-economic system in the next 20 years... Plausible.

Agreed on the socio-economic and political system. Besides most Americans function as zombies already while serving as slaves to alien business entities known as "corporations". The "Corporation" is alien because it has been given the rights of human beings, but is not born of woman, and has no soul, and is not accountable to the government it bribes, and only exists to serve itself. Now that's apocalyptic no matter how you cut it!
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(01-06-2018 05:44 PM)XLance Wrote:  ACC:

Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina

Maryland, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

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(01-06-2018 05:44 PM)XLance Wrote:  ACC:

Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina

Maryland, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

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(01-06-2018 02:45 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I think 2024 will be when this all plays out. Texas and ND has been the holy grail for Swofford. Not that I think it will happen but that appears to be the best hope is ND to join if Texas joins the ACC. I think OU and OSU to SEC and Texas and ND to the ACC would be great incredible. SEC gets Bedlam and TX plays OU, OK ST and Tx AM every three years as part of ACC/SEC rivalry weekend. Just have a feeling B10 will not allow this to happen.

What makes you think that Swofford really, really wants Texas as a member (full or partial) of the ACC?
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(01-08-2018 07:53 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 05:44 PM)XLance Wrote:  ACC:

Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina

Maryland, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

03-puke


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Being serious.....what is desirable about that conference for Clemson besides Georgia Tech and South Carolina? It's road trips to mostly small venues and lackluster fanbases and empty visitors sections at home games except for the GT and VT games.
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(01-08-2018 08:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 07:53 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 05:44 PM)XLance Wrote:  ACC:

Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina

Maryland, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

03-puke


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Being serious.....what is desirable about that conference for Clemson besides Georgia Tech and South Carolina? It's road trips to mostly small venues and lackluster fanbases and empty visitors sections at home games except for the GT and VT games.

XLance always seems to want to strip the football schools from the ACC and load it with basketball schools.

IMO, it would have been much easier if UNC had simply joined the Big East - they don't even sponsor FBS football.
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(01-08-2018 08:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 07:53 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 05:44 PM)XLance Wrote:  ACC:

Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina

Maryland, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

03-puke


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Being serious.....what is desirable about that conference for Clemson besides Georgia Tech and South Carolina? It's road trips to mostly small venues and lackluster fanbases and empty visitors sections at home games except for the GT and VT games.

Culturally that is a pretty homogeneous group (with the exception of Kentucky).
Why would that group be appealing to Clemson? It's almost the same folks that you have shared conference with since 1953. Are you saying that Clemson fans have been miserable for over 60 years but have failed to do anything about it?
In all of my trips to Clemson, I am not aware of a single time, that Carolina didn't sell out our allotment, although I can't speak for any of the other schools.
I don't find you level of animosity toward the ACC in any of my Clemson associations in Greensboro or the contacts I have with some Clemson faculty.
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(01-08-2018 09:10 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 07:53 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 05:44 PM)XLance Wrote:  ACC:

Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina

Maryland, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

03-puke


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Being serious.....what is desirable about that conference for Clemson besides Georgia Tech and South Carolina? It's road trips to mostly small venues and lackluster fanbases and empty visitors sections at home games except for the GT and VT games.

XLance always seems to want to strip the football schools from the ACC and load it with basketball schools.

IMO, it would have been much easier if UNC had simply joined the Big East - they don't even sponsor FBS football.
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It would have been a perfect fit because neither does UNC
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(01-08-2018 12:09 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 07:53 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 05:44 PM)XLance Wrote:  ACC:

Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina

Maryland, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

03-puke


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Being serious.....what is desirable about that conference for Clemson besides Georgia Tech and South Carolina? It's road trips to mostly small venues and lackluster fanbases and empty visitors sections at home games except for the GT and VT games.

Culturally that is a pretty homogeneous group (with the exception of Kentucky).
Why would that group be appealing to Clemson? It's almost the same folks that you have shared conference with since 1953. Are you saying that Clemson fans have been miserable for over 60 years but have failed to do anything about it?
In all of my trips to Clemson, I am not aware of a single time, that Carolina didn't sell out our allotment, although I can't speak for any of the other schools.
I don't find you level of animosity toward the ACC in any of my Clemson associations in Greensboro or the contacts I have with some Clemson faculty.

When was the last time you went to Clemson? 82? They may sell out, but they end up either eating the cost or selling on the secondary market because there's always empty seats or plenty of orange in the visitor section.
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(01-08-2018 08:00 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 02:45 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I think 2024 will be when this all plays out. Texas and ND has been the holy grail for Swofford. Not that I think it will happen but that appears to be the best hope is ND to join if Texas joins the ACC. I think OU and OSU to SEC and Texas and ND to the ACC would be great incredible. SEC gets Bedlam and TX plays OU, OK ST and Tx AM every three years as part of ACC/SEC rivalry weekend. Just have a feeling B10 will not allow this to happen.

What makes you think that Swofford really, really wants Texas as a member (full or partial) of the ACC?

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(01-08-2018 09:10 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 07:53 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-07-2018 11:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 05:44 PM)XLance Wrote:  ACC:

Clemson, Duke, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina

Maryland, N.C. State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest

03-puke


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Being serious.....what is desirable about that conference for Clemson besides Georgia Tech and South Carolina? It's road trips to mostly small venues and lackluster fanbases and empty visitors sections at home games except for the GT and VT games.

XLance always seems to want to strip the football schools from the ACC and load it with basketball schools.

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(01-08-2018 01:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:09 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 07:53 AM)XLance Wrote:  
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03-nerner

Being serious.....what is desirable about that conference for Clemson besides Georgia Tech and South Carolina? It's road trips to mostly small venues and lackluster fanbases and empty visitors sections at home games except for the GT and VT games.

Culturally that is a pretty homogeneous group (with the exception of Kentucky).
Why would that group be appealing to Clemson? It's almost the same folks that you have shared conference with since 1953. Are you saying that Clemson fans have been miserable for over 60 years but have failed to do anything about it?
In all of my trips to Clemson, I am not aware of a single time, that Carolina didn't sell out our allotment, although I can't speak for any of the other schools.
I don't find you level of animosity toward the ACC in any of my Clemson associations in Greensboro or the contacts I have with some Clemson faculty.

When was the last time you went to Clemson? 82? They may sell out, but they end up either eating the cost or selling on the secondary market because there's always empty seats or plenty of orange in the visitor section.

I'm not sure about '82. I did miss the game in '14, so I guess the last time I went to Clemson was in '11. I guess the next time Carolina plays at Clemson would be '21 or '22?
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(01-08-2018 02:24 PM)green Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 08:00 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(01-06-2018 02:45 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I think 2024 will be when this all plays out. Texas and ND has been the holy grail for Swofford. Not that I think it will happen but that appears to be the best hope is ND to join if Texas joins the ACC....

What makes you think that Swofford really, really wants Texas as a member (full or partial) of the ACC?

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