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(01-21-2018 06:14 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 08:47 PM)jarr Wrote:  Go Vikings! Happy for Zimmer.

Go Eagles, want Jason Kelce( best center in the league) and Brent Celek in the Super Bowl.

Bearcats have it covered either way- Eric Wilson plays for the Vikings.

I know Barwin doesn't play for the Eagles anymore, but who does he play for now? The Texans?

8th super bowl. 17 years after his first one. Just another level.

(01-21-2018 06:44 PM)jarr Wrote:  I know Barwin doesn't play for the Eagles anymore, but who does he play for now? The Texans?

Rams, although if not mistaken he may be a free agent

(01-21-2018 06:35 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 06:14 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 08:47 PM)jarr Wrote:  Go Vikings! Happy for Zimmer.

Go Eagles, want Jason Kelce( best center in the league) and Brent Celek in the Super Bowl.

Bearcats have it covered either way- Eric Wilson plays for the Vikings.

I still don't get how Tuberville squandered all that talent.

Kelce and Celek were both gone before even Butch was here

(01-21-2018 08:29 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Kelce and Celek were both gone before even Butch was here

I'm aware of that, I also don't need to be told that Mike Zimmer didn't coach under Tubs...
I was referencing Wilson + the receiver corps, Tion Greene etc.

(01-21-2018 08:29 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Kelce and Celek were both gone before even Butch was here

Wrong. Jason played for Butch his senior season.

(01-21-2018 09:09 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 08:29 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Kelce and Celek were both gone before even Butch was here

I'm aware of that, I also don't need to be told that Mike Zimmer didn't coach under Tubs...
I was referencing Wilson + the receiver corps, Tion Greene etc.

With the exception of Wilson, Johnny Holton and MeKale McKay, those were all Butch's guys.

Looking back on Tubs recruiting, he brought in some decent transfers from other schools and JUCOs (Wilson, Kiel, McKay, Tyreek Burwell, Jaylyin Minor, , but his high school recruiting was the absolute drizzling shytes.

(01-22-2018 09:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 09:09 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 08:29 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Kelce and Celek were both gone before even Butch was here

I'm aware of that, I also don't need to be told that Mike Zimmer didn't coach under Tubs...
I was referencing Wilson + the receiver corps, Tion Greene etc.

With the exception of Wilson, Johnny Holton and MeKale McKay, those were all Butch's guys.

Looking back on Tubs recruiting, he brought in some decent transfers from other schools and JUCOs (Wilson, Kiel, McKay, Tyreek Burwell, Jaylyin Minor, , but his high school recruiting was the absolute drizzling shytes.

Close to 30% of the guys he brought in during 4 classes were JUCOs. And people wonder how we had such huge holes in class distribution.

The guy recruited whatever was the lowest hanging fruit. Refused to fight to recruit anyone. Was also the way he hired coaches. Just a lazy check sucking POS.

(01-22-2018 09:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 09:09 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 08:29 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Kelce and Celek were both gone before even Butch was here

I'm aware of that, I also don't need to be told that Mike Zimmer didn't coach under Tubs...
I was referencing Wilson + the receiver corps, Tion Greene etc.

With the exception of Wilson, Johnny Holton and MeKale McKay, those were all Butch's guys.

Looking back on Tubs recruiting, he brought in some decent transfers from other schools and JUCOs (Wilson, Kiel, McKay, Tyreek Burwell, Jaylyin Minor, , but his high school recruiting was the absolute drizzling shytes.

I understand why we're in our current predicament. That doesn't excuse his inability to win anything with what he initially inherited. I'm just bemused that he had that level of talent at the skill positions, the line wasn't nearly as bad as it is now and what did we have to show for it? It's like we might as well have had a strawman for a coach.

(01-22-2018 01:01 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(01-22-2018 09:21 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 09:09 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 08:29 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Kelce and Celek were both gone before even Butch was here

I'm aware of that, I also don't need to be told that Mike Zimmer didn't coach under Tubs...
I was referencing Wilson + the receiver corps, Tion Greene etc.

With the exception of Wilson, Johnny Holton and MeKale McKay, those were all Butch's guys.

Looking back on Tubs recruiting, he brought in some decent transfers from other schools and JUCOs (Wilson, Kiel, McKay, Tyreek Burwell, Jaylyin Minor, , but his high school recruiting was the absolute drizzling shytes.

I understand why we're in our current predicament. That doesn't excuse his inability to win anything with what he initially inherited. I'm just bemused that he had that level of talent at the skill positions, the line wasn't nearly as bad as it is now and what did we have to show for it? It's like we might as well have had a strawman for a coach.

At least the strawman had a heart.