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Amazing to think but after last night- if Temple can win all 3 home games (ECU, Houston, UCF)- and win 4/5 on the road(Tulane, USF, Wichita, UConn, and Tulsa)- they would probably enter the conference tournament as nearly a lock to make the tourney. They would be 19-11 with a RPI of 29.7 and a SOS of 15(OOC SOS of 17). Even 6-2 might get them in with a win at the conference tourney.
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What an unpredictable team Temple is this year.
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This is why you don't schedule creampuffs, kids. Temple scheduled like a team that did not want to ever miss the tourney due to SOS.
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(02-02-2018 09:59 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Amazing to think but after last night- if Temple can win all 3 home games (ECU, Houston, UCF)- and win 4/5 on the road(Tulane, USF, Wichita, UConn, and Tulsa)- they would probably enter the conference tournament as nearly a lock to make the tourney. They would be 19-11 with a RPI of 29.7 and a SOS of 15(OOC SOS of 17). Even 6-2 might get them in with a win at the conference tourney.

I look at there future games as well and agree. I'm not sure where you are seeing their SOS at 15, unless that is projected, because right now they are at 3. Anyway, 18 regular season wins and 2 conference wins probably is enough to get them in. That said, it's a crap shoot in how they will actually finish.
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https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Sta...Sheets.pdf

(Temple's team sheet is on pg 37)

In the end will all the good wins trump the four quadrant 3 losses on their resume? This will be interesting to say the least if Temple finishes strong
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(02-02-2018 10:04 AM)sfink16 Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 09:59 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Amazing to think but after last night- if Temple can win all 3 home games (ECU, Houston, UCF)- and win 4/5 on the road(Tulane, USF, Wichita, UConn, and Tulsa)- they would probably enter the conference tournament as nearly a lock to make the tourney. They would be 19-11 with a RPI of 29.7 and a SOS of 15(OOC SOS of 17). Even 6-2 might get them in with a win at the conference tourney.

I look at there future games as well and agree. I'm not sure where you are seeing their SOS at 15, unless that is projected, because right now they are at 3. Anyway, 18 regular season wins and 2 conference wins probably is enough to get them in. That said, it's a crap shoot in how they will actually finish.

It was projected.

I think if they enter conference tourney at 18-12(RPI of 38), and thus 10-8 conference record- and win even just 1 game in the conference tourney- they probably would be safe. Especially if they were the 4 seed and the game was vs a 5 seed. I think if Temple gets to 19 wins, they're safe.
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I'd say Temple has the 4th best NCAA prospects in the league at this point. With that being said, they have a LOT of work to do still. They could just as easily go 3-5 in their final 8 games as they could 6-2.
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(02-02-2018 10:15 AM)BrooklynRocket Wrote:  I'd say Temple has the 4th best NCAA prospects in the league at this point. With that being said, they have a LOT of work to do still. They could just as easily go 3-5 in their final 8 games as they could 6-2.

for them to go 3-5 now- they'd have to lose 5/6 to Houston, UCF, Tulane, Wichita, UConn, and Tulsa(or lose to either ECU or USF). That would be EXTREMELY unlikely. If they can get their 3 home games- and then USF on the road- they would just need to go 2-2 in the other 4 games.
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(02-02-2018 09:59 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Amazing to think but after last night- if Temple can win all 3 home games (ECU, Houston, UCF)- and win 4/5 on the road(Tulane, USF, Wichita, UConn, and Tulsa)- they would probably enter the conference tournament as nearly a lock to make the tourney. They would be 19-11 with a RPI of 29.7 and a SOS of 15(OOC SOS of 17). Even 6-2 might get them in with a win at the conference tourney.

Getting 4 wins in those road games is going to be a hard nut for them. Beating Houston will also be one. but, if they do what you suggest they'll deserve to be in for certain. What were their WTF losses?
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(02-02-2018 10:54 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 09:59 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Amazing to think but after last night- if Temple can win all 3 home games (ECU, Houston, UCF)- and win 4/5 on the road(Tulane, USF, Wichita, UConn, and Tulsa)- they would probably enter the conference tournament as nearly a lock to make the tourney. They would be 19-11 with a RPI of 29.7 and a SOS of 15(OOC SOS of 17). Even 6-2 might get them in with a win at the conference tourney.

Getting 4 wins in those road games is going to be a hard nut for them. Beating Houston will also be one. but, if they do what you suggest they'll deserve to be in for certain. What were their WTF losses?

Memphis and Tulane at home, La Salle on the road, and neutral vs GW.
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(02-02-2018 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 10:15 AM)BrooklynRocket Wrote:  I'd say Temple has the 4th best NCAA prospects in the league at this point. With that being said, they have a LOT of work to do still. They could just as easily go 3-5 in their final 8 games as they could 6-2.

for them to go 3-5 now- they'd have to lose 5/6 to Houston, UCF, Tulane, Wichita, UConn, and Tulsa(or lose to either ECU or USF). That would be EXTREMELY unlikely. If they can get their 3 home games- and then USF on the road- they would just need to go 2-2 in the other 4 games.

@Tulane - Toss up
ECU - Win (lock)
@USF - Win (likely)
@Wichita - Loss
Houston - Toss up
UCF - Toss up
@UConn - Toss up
@Tulsa - Toss up

2 wins, 1 loss, 5 toss ups.

Temple certainly has the horses to go 6-2 over that stretch, but are more likely to go 4-4, maybe 5-3. If this team is inconsistent enough to lose to Tulane and Memphis at home, they can easily lose to UCF and Houston at home too.
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(02-02-2018 11:04 AM)BrooklynRocket Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 10:33 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 10:15 AM)BrooklynRocket Wrote:  I'd say Temple has the 4th best NCAA prospects in the league at this point. With that being said, they have a LOT of work to do still. They could just as easily go 3-5 in their final 8 games as they could 6-2.

for them to go 3-5 now- they'd have to lose 5/6 to Houston, UCF, Tulane, Wichita, UConn, and Tulsa(or lose to either ECU or USF). That would be EXTREMELY unlikely. If they can get their 3 home games- and then USF on the road- they would just need to go 2-2 in the other 4 games.

@Tulane - Toss up
ECU - Win (lock)
@USF - Win (likely)
@Wichita - Loss
Houston - Toss up
UCF - Toss up
@UConn - Toss up
@Tulsa - Toss up

2 wins, 1 loss, 5 toss ups.

Temple certainly has the horses to go 6-2 over that stretch, but are more likely to go 4-4, maybe 5-3. If this team is inconsistent enough to lose to Tulane and Memphis at home, they can easily lose to UCF and Houston at home too.

This is probably most reasonable assessment I think Temple would get in with a 5-3 split and a tourny win (either as the 5 vs 12 or 6 vs 11) or with 4-4 they need two tourney wins (probably as 6 vs 11 than the 3 seed or 7 vs 10 than a 2 seed)

Best case scenario is 6-2 a lock or 5-3 needing the win and a 5 seed. Either is the surest path to dancing.
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While losses are never good, some are better than others. The loss to a very good Cincy team (a team that destroyed them @Cincy) is a good loss, especially when they should have one that game. As someone in this thread said, does that loss override the WTF losses in the committee's eyes.
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There is no such thing as a good loss.
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Everytime we get a decent win, the perfume of that win is stronger than the stench of an overmatched coach. Unfortunately, we come back down to earth:

Tulsa - W
ECU - W
USF - W
WSU - L
HOU - L
UCF - L
Uconn - L
Tulane - L
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Tulsa will beat you by at least 20
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(02-02-2018 02:56 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Tulsa will beat you by at least 20

It would be nice to see Tulsa do something in football or basketball...
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(02-02-2018 10:02 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  This is why you don't schedule creampuffs, kids. Temple scheduled like a team that did not want to ever miss the tourney due to SOS.

ECU be like "Whats a tourney?"
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(02-02-2018 04:35 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(02-02-2018 02:56 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Tulsa will beat you by at least 20

It would be nice to see Tulsa do something in football or basketball...

True. At least softball season starts soon.
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It would be nice if Temple would go on a run and make the tourney. At this point Temple and UCF are our best chances to get a fourth bid since SMU's injuries has them sinking fast.

The Dunphy vs water bottle incident is really painful now. Without that they are likely 13-9 with a very good chance to make the tourney.
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