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https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/04/us/ice-po...index.html

Quote:"Although he was a vet, he never applied for US citizenship for many years he was eligible," a senior immigration official told CNN."Although he was a vet, he never applied for US citizenship for many years he was eligible," a senior immigration official told CNN. "He became a permanent resident in 1989. This means he could have applied for citizenship as early as 1994."

Story goes, kid was brought into the country illegally. Didn't try to become a citizen, enlisted, served, has been diagnosed with PTSD, and has been in trouble for drugs.

While he served and should've been granted citizenship, it appears he had a path but didn't take it. This is a sucky situation but again he could've been a citizen in 94. Why didn't he take it, why was he still on a green card?
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Anyone who serves in the military should be eligible for citizenship. He was eligible but didn't take it. Why not?
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(02-05-2018 09:42 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Anyone who serves in the military should be eligible for citizenship. He was eligible but didn't take it. Why not?

Article stated he thought serving automatically made him a citizen.
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I became a citizen while I was in the Marines. Came back from Iraq, started the process and I was taking the oath in about 3 months, tops. I think the hardest part was taking the citizenship test. It was a one on one oral test, no, not that kind, the other kind.
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(02-05-2018 09:52 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  I became a citizen while I was in the Marines. Came back from Iraq, started the process and I was taking the oath in about 3 months, tops. I think the hardest part was taking the citizenship test. It was a one on one oral test, no, not that kind, the other kind.

But you knew you needed to do this right? You didn't assume it was a done deal?
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(02-05-2018 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:52 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  I became a citizen while I was in the Marines. Came back from Iraq, started the process and I was taking the oath in about 3 months, tops. I think the hardest part was taking the citizenship test. It was a one on one oral test, no, not that kind, the other kind.

But you knew you needed to do this right? You didn't assume it was a done deal?

oh definitely, we knew we had to start a process, and they even pushed for us to become citizens, if we wanted to.
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Seems like being a citizen would be a requirement to join the military.
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(02-05-2018 10:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Seems like being a citizen would be a requirement to join the military.

He had a green card.
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(02-05-2018 10:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Seems like being a citizen would be a requirement to join the military get government assistance.

Do tell.
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(02-05-2018 09:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:52 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  I became a citizen while I was in the Marines. Came back from Iraq, started the process and I was taking the oath in about 3 months, tops. I think the hardest part was taking the citizenship test. It was a one on one oral test, no, not that kind, the other kind.

But you knew you needed to do this right? You didn't assume it was a done deal?

oh definitely, we knew we had to start a process, and they even pushed for us to become citizens, if we wanted to.
Thanks. I don't know these things I had the luxury of being born here so I don't know what all it takes to become a citizen or the paperwork, tests etc.
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(02-05-2018 09:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:52 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  I became a citizen while I was in the Marines. Came back from Iraq, started the process and I was taking the oath in about 3 months, tops. I think the hardest part was taking the citizenship test. It was a one on one oral test, no, not that kind, the other kind.

But you knew you needed to do this right? You didn't assume it was a done deal?

oh definitely, we knew we had to start a process, and they even pushed for us to become citizens, if we wanted to.

If I may, from where did you immigrate?
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Regardless of the circumstances, someone should advocate for this man and either get a commitment from him to apply or else send him back. Was this offered? Seems like the fair thing to do.
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(02-05-2018 11:13 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Regardless of the circumstances, someone should advocate for this man and either get a commitment from him to apply or else send him back. Was this offered? Seems like the fair thing to do.

He was offered in 94. Didn't take. Join the service prior to 9/11. After his service he got in trouble and had his green card revoked and now he's being deported. He's been in the country since 89. So 30 years he's been here and didn't do anything, but assumed he would get it for serving. And I agree he should but it was also his responsibility to ensure he was.
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(02-05-2018 11:06 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:52 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  I became a citizen while I was in the Marines. Came back from Iraq, started the process and I was taking the oath in about 3 months, tops. I think the hardest part was taking the citizenship test. It was a one on one oral test, no, not that kind, the other kind.

But you knew you needed to do this right? You didn't assume it was a done deal?

oh definitely, we knew we had to start a process, and they even pushed for us to become citizens, if we wanted to.

If I may, from where did you immigrate?

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(02-05-2018 09:45 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:42 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Anyone who serves in the military should be eligible for citizenship. He was eligible but didn't take it. Why not?

Article stated he thought serving automatically made him a citizen.

That's a tragic situation, something that should have been worked around.
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(02-05-2018 11:33 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 11:06 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:59 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:54 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-05-2018 09:52 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  I became a citizen while I was in the Marines. Came back from Iraq, started the process and I was taking the oath in about 3 months, tops. I think the hardest part was taking the citizenship test. It was a one on one oral test, no, not that kind, the other kind.

But you knew you needed to do this right? You didn't assume it was a done deal?

oh definitely, we knew we had to start a process, and they even pushed for us to become citizens, if we wanted to.

If I may, from where did you immigrate?

shithole Mejico

We're glad you're here.

I've personally been a part of sponsoring two families (3 different people) in their quest to become citizens. The amount of personal/financial info I had to give was stunning. I could have qualified to purchase a million dollar home with less info than I had to turn over.
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(02-05-2018 10:15 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Seems like being a citizen would be a requirement to join the military.

Or perhaps the inverse...it should be a requirement of citizenship to have some nominally short term skin in the game upon adulthood be it active or reserve military or some corresponsingly short term in a non partisan public/civic organization focused on service to this country. But I guess that would be too much to ask.
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(02-05-2018 08:50 AM)gdunn Wrote:  https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/04/us/ice-po...index.html

Quote:"Although he was a vet, he never applied for US citizenship for many years he was eligible," a senior immigration official told CNN."Although he was a vet, he never applied for US citizenship for many years he was eligible," a senior immigration official told CNN. "He became a permanent resident in 1989. This means he could have applied for citizenship as early as 1994."

Story goes, kid was brought into the country illegally. Didn't try to become a citizen, enlisted, served, has been diagnosed with PTSD, and has been in trouble for drugs.

While he served and should've been granted citizenship, it appears he had a path but didn't take it. This is a sucky situation but again he could've been a citizen in 94. Why didn't he take it, why was he still on a green card?

they need to make him a citizen. He has earned it.
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Sad story but the underlying issue is a lack of personal responsibility. I know that personal responsibility is a trigger to you nanny state leftists but the only person responsible for his deportation is Perez, He's the one who didn't apply for citizenship and he's the one who got arrested delivering 2lbs of cocaine to an undercover cop. This isn't a "broken immigration system", this is one irresponsible person who is going to suffer for his own actions and inactions.
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(02-05-2018 03:01 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Sad story but the underlying issue is a lack of personal responsibility. I know that personal responsibility is a trigger to you nanny state leftists but the only person responsible for his deportation is Perez, He's the one who didn't apply for citizenship and he's the one who got arrested delivering 2lbs of cocaine to an undercover cop. This isn't a "broken immigration system", this is one irresponsible person who is going to suffer for his own actions and inactions.

cocaine smuggling? I missed that. deport his ass...
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