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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-12-2018 09:12 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (02-12-2018 08:12 AM)BKTopper Wrote: UAB, Marshall, WKU, MT, F_U's, ODU. Plus appst, gaso, gast. Nice 10 member conference. But bring along FGCU, Belmont, Evansville, Charlotte (oly only) as quality basketball adds. Then you add 2 football only schools: Army and UMass. Now THAT'S insane.
Why? Why would we basically create the same thing we have now just with different teams?
The Florida schools are going to have to show me more than one season to prove to me they are truly committed - and neither still seem to give a crap about basketball. Georgia St is an albatross for football. Ga Southern is now starting to realize it's not as easy as they thought it was going to be. And App State is abysmal in basketball.
If you look at this league arrangement just for one year it's pretty good. Ga State actually made a bowl. The Florida schools did well in football. The league would rank 8th in RPI in basketball. But extend it out the last three years and see what it looks like. The RPI for this as a league would be 15th, 19th and 16th over the previous three years. That looks pretty much exactly like what we already have.
If Selig, Stewart, and Massaro (and I might even throw Ingram in there) are going to get together and make this happen they need to create the best possible mix of schools who are committed and dedicated to football and basketball. I would say pick one between Ga Southern and App State but not both. Both are historically cellar dwellers in basketball and there is no reason to add that much risk to a new league. Same for FIU and FAU. Pick the breadwinner. Both aren't needed. Add back in La Tech. And probably Southern Miss. Or perhaps steal Ohio from the MAC, which is possible if you are selling competing for the Access Bowl and at-large bids by putting the right mix of schools together. Even with Norfolk to Ruston some degree of geographical symmetry is retained. If you are looking for basketball only members then and only then would you consider Georgia State. GSU and Belmont would be good basketball only members (though I'm not convinced it would be necessary). In fact, I would say adding basketball only schools wouldn't add much benefit in relation to revenue sharing.
MTSU is going to have to show that want more than going 7-5 every year in football and being ok with a mediocre coach for a decade to show they belong in this league.
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
Any news on tv deal?
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-13-2018 02:44 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote: Any news on tv deal?
What is this.........."tv"..........you speak of?
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-13-2018 03:51 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote: (02-13-2018 02:44 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote: Any news on tv deal?
What is this.........."tv"..........you speak of?
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-14-2018 06:47 AM)odu09 Wrote: Have at it. My only question, aren't TV views and internet views counted differently? I wish he would address this in the article to prove he at least knows what he's talking about.
https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...9c585.html
Yes. We talked about this when he first mentioned it after the game.
The stream shows how many people are actually watching it live at any given time. The most I saw was about 2,000. That doesn't mean that only 2,000 watched it but you have to believe that a vast majority of those watching it did so for most if not all of the game. Certainly there weren't another 393K viewers that came in and out at some point.
Bottom line is both Harry and Selig don't know what they are talking about here. And because it's Facebook a "view" could have been achieved by anyone who has liked Stadium on their own Facebook account and simply scrolling by it to see who ate dinner that night, took a dump, and posted something about Trump. In other words for one of those page views to count you don't even have to click the link to actually start streaming the video of the game.
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-14-2018 07:38 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (02-14-2018 06:47 AM)odu09 Wrote: Have at it. My only question, aren't TV views and internet views counted differently? I wish he would address this in the article to prove he at least knows what he's talking about.
https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...9c585.html
Yes. We talked about this when he first mentioned it after the game.
The stream shows how many people are actually watching it live at any given time. The most I saw was about 2,000. That doesn't mean that only 2,000 watched it but you have to believe that a vast majority of those watching it did so for most if not all of the game. Certainly there weren't another 393K viewers that came in and out at some point.
Bottom line is both Harry and Selig don't know what they are talking about here. And because it's Facebook a "view" could have been achieved by anyone who has liked Stadium on their own Facebook account and simply scrolling by it to see who ate dinner that night, took a dump, and posted something about Trump. In other words for one of those page views to count you don't even have to click the link to actually start streaming the video of the game.
This is why I would really wish Harry could back up his reasoning with real data. Writing like this is flat out dangerous - it's misleading and I respect him (losing that respect after this) but I cannot stand journalists who are misleading their audience. It's also dangerous because now our commish can point to the article and say "see, FB is the exposure we need" and get even lazier on the next tv deal. Just...scary.
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2018 08:00 AM by odu09.)
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-14-2018 07:59 AM)ghostofclt Wrote: (02-14-2018 07:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (02-14-2018 07:43 AM)AppinSC Wrote: (02-13-2018 02:44 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote: Any news on tv deal?
https://www.costco.com/55-inch-tvs-throu...h-tvs.html
Your welcome!
*You're
clt says he did pretty well for an appy.
I considered that. But thought I would provide a public service. If it were a wkcc grad I would have just let it go as we know there is no hope there.
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-14-2018 08:04 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (02-14-2018 07:59 AM)ghostofclt Wrote: (02-14-2018 07:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote: (02-14-2018 07:43 AM)AppinSC Wrote: (02-13-2018 02:44 PM)jcduncan13 Wrote: Any news on tv deal?
https://www.costco.com/55-inch-tvs-throu...h-tvs.html
Your welcome!
*You're
clt says he did pretty well for an appy.
I considered that. But thought I would provide a public service. If it were a wkcc grad I would have just let it go as we know there is no hope there.
clt is impressed he is aware of Costco. He must have access to the internet at the Boone library.
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-11-2018 05:29 PM)HogDawg Wrote: (02-10-2018 11:26 AM)Seminowl Wrote: (02-10-2018 02:52 AM)Rabonchild Wrote: For CUSA to survive a dedicated channel must be developed. If the leadership is to incompotent to reach a channel agreement the odds are CUSA is breaking up. If that happens the conference may look like Marshall, ODU, Liberty, Appalachian, Charlotte, Western Kentucky, Middlle Tennessee, FAU, FIU, Georgia St, Georgia South, & Coastal Carolina.
If three of the teams choose to not join, CUSA reaches out to JMU for football and Charleston & VCU for basketball.
North:
Marshall
ODU
Liberty
App
Charlotte
WKU
MTU
South:
GA State
GA Southern
Coastal
USM/Troy/UAB (Pick 2)
FAU
FIU
No teams west of the Mississippi, geography, recruiting, and rivalries. This is what CUSA should be.
LOL! That's bad. Really bad.
The western schools would also do their own thing. It may be where all this is headed. I wouldn't blame anyone
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-10-2018 01:08 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote: (02-10-2018 11:26 AM)Seminowl Wrote: (02-10-2018 02:52 AM)Rabonchild Wrote: For CUSA to survive a dedicated channel must be developed. If the leadership is to incompotent to reach a channel agreement the odds are CUSA is breaking up. If that happens the conference may look like Marshall, ODU, Liberty, Appalachian, Charlotte, Western Kentucky, Middlle Tennessee, FAU, FIU, Georgia St, Georgia South, & Coastal Carolina.
If three of the teams choose to not join, CUSA reaches out to JMU for football and Charleston & VCU for basketball.
North:
Marshall
ODU
Liberty
App
Charlotte
WKU
MTU
South:
GA State
GA Southern
Coastal
USM/Troy/UAB (Pick 2)
FAU
FIU
No teams west of the Mississippi, geography, recruiting, and rivalries. This is what CUSA should be.
Again noooo. As much as I want Marshall to play in the south, I would rather go back to thr MAC than play in a glorified FCS league
Same thing with USM. Sheesh, I actually can see independence being better than that lineup!!!
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-10-2018 10:27 PM)Seminowl Wrote: (02-10-2018 08:21 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote: (02-10-2018 06:18 PM)Rabonchild Wrote: (02-10-2018 01:08 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote: (02-10-2018 11:26 AM)Seminowl Wrote: North:
Marshall
ODU
Liberty
App
Charlotte
WKU
MTU
South:
GA State
GA Southern
Coastal
USM/Troy/UAB (Pick 2)
FAU
FIU
No teams west of the Mississippi, geography, recruiting, and rivalries. This is what CUSA should be.
Again noooo. As much as I want Marshall to play in the south, I would rather go back to thr MAC than play in a glorified FCS league
In the long run I would just as soon have JMU as Marshall.
By all means do that. This conference is a joke compared to what it used to be. Other than long time rival USM and building rivals WKU MT, there is nothing worth staying in this dying conference for. You start combining with too many FBS newbies and an FCS pull up, the conference reputation will get even worse. I'm not the only one who sees this. No offense to Charlotte or ODU, I personally saw the light when those two came up for the list of additions, ODU seems to be coming along nicely. Regardless, no one else in big boy football cares, so go ahead and add more to that. I hope my school would make a decision to do something else than that. JMU was passed over for ODU for a reason.
If FAU can’t play Marshall we might as well disband our football program and shut down the University. No, but seriously I say let them go if they take the complaining fans with them. I’ll miss the good fans though. The solution would be to send coastal north and keep all 3 of USM/Troy/UAB. Enjoy the MAC.
USM and UAB would never join that pile of crap. C-USA would officially be C-DOA then. Wonder if the SunBelt would have some slots open.
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
So ..... Any word on C-USA TV deals?
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
clt says appy fans really like chain store chicken
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-20-2018 09:47 AM)ghostofclt Wrote: clt says appy fans really like chain store chicken
AppinSC says unc-harrisburg fans really like to choke their chicken
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RE: Any word on C-USA tv deals?
(02-20-2018 08:06 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote: So ..... Any word on C-USA TV deals?
Yes, it will be broadcast over the net with still shots every 1 minute and commentary will be in morse code. Great job, Judy.
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