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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-12-2018 12:33 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 12:10 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
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(02-09-2018 10:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  According to the Conference USA website, ODU is indeed in 2nd place. I guess overall record trumps head to head?

Overall record. Explain please. We play them again in a couple weeks and should we beat them it will be a moot point but if not then a true tie. I think we have a harder in conf schedule than anyone else. Play all the top teams twice. Not sure anyone else does.

Here's a list of tiebreakers:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/c-us...eakers.pdf

So head to head is first. If we split then it'll go to win percentage against top teams. Then to overall record but it seems extremely unlikely to get to that point.

So assuming we split the games and are still tied and using current records. We're both 0fer against MT, we're tied for second so move on to fourth place which is Marshall. We're 1-0 against Marshall and you're 2-0. Both are 100% but the rules state 2-0 beats 1-0 so you'd be 2nd seed and we'd be 3rd.

ODU plays Marshall again but now it occurs to me that it won't get that far because WKU plays Middle again. If WKU wins then they have the tiebreaker (1-1 vs. 0-1). If they lose, then 0-1 beats 0-2, and ODU gets the second seed.

Still a lot of basketball to be played
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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-12-2018 08:24 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 12:33 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 12:10 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 01:04 PM)69topper Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 10:20 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  According to the Conference USA website, ODU is indeed in 2nd place. I guess overall record trumps head to head?

Overall record. Explain please. We play them again in a couple weeks and should we beat them it will be a moot point but if not then a true tie. I think we have a harder in conf schedule than anyone else. Play all the top teams twice. Not sure anyone else does.

Here's a list of tiebreakers:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/c-us...eakers.pdf

So head to head is first. If we split then it'll go to win percentage against top teams. Then to overall record but it seems extremely unlikely to get to that point.

So assuming we split the games and are still tied and using current records. We're both 0fer against MT, we're tied for second so move on to fourth place which is Marshall. We're 1-0 against Marshall and you're 2-0. Both are 100% but the rules state 2-0 beats 1-0 so you'd be 2nd seed and we'd be 3rd.

ODU plays Marshall again but now it occurs to me that it won't get that far because WKU plays Middle again. If WKU wins then they have the tiebreaker (1-1 vs. 0-1). If they lose, then 0-1 beats 0-2, and ODU gets the second seed.

Still a lot of basketball to be played

Certainly. Just pointing out that a WKU-ODU tiebreaker won't go any further than Middle Tennessee, since WKU plays them twice and ODU once.
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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-12-2018 06:24 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 08:24 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 12:33 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 12:10 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 01:04 PM)69topper Wrote:  Overall record. Explain please. We play them again in a couple weeks and should we beat them it will be a moot point but if not then a true tie. I think we have a harder in conf schedule than anyone else. Play all the top teams twice. Not sure anyone else does.

Here's a list of tiebreakers:

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/c-us...eakers.pdf

So head to head is first. If we split then it'll go to win percentage against top teams. Then to overall record but it seems extremely unlikely to get to that point.

So assuming we split the games and are still tied and using current records. We're both 0fer against MT, we're tied for second so move on to fourth place which is Marshall. We're 1-0 against Marshall and you're 2-0. Both are 100% but the rules state 2-0 beats 1-0 so you'd be 2nd seed and we'd be 3rd.

ODU plays Marshall again but now it occurs to me that it won't get that far because WKU plays Middle again. If WKU wins then they have the tiebreaker (1-1 vs. 0-1). If they lose, then 0-1 beats 0-2, and ODU gets the second seed.

Still a lot of basketball to be played

Certainly. Just pointing out that a WKU-ODU tiebreaker won't go any further than Middle Tennessee, since WKU plays them twice and ODU once.

Gotcha, I was just using current situation but you're right.
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We are factoring an ODU loss in Huntington right? Because we are going to win that game. I would love to be in that side of the bracket with ODU.
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(02-12-2018 10:08 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We are factoring an ODU loss in Huntington right? Because we are going to win that game. I would love to be in that side of the bracket with ODU.

Yeah, I'd like that matchup a lot too.
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(02-12-2018 10:08 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We are factoring an ODU loss in Huntington right? Because we are going to win that game. I would love to be in that side of the bracket with ODU.

It is going to take more than an ODU loss in Huntington to land both teams in the same side of the bracket.

Unless, of course, you guys are aiming a 6th or 7th place finish in conference play.
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RE: 2018 CUSA Tourney Bracket
(02-13-2018 07:07 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 10:08 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We are factoring an ODU loss in Huntington right? Because we are going to win that game. I would love to be in that side of the bracket with ODU.

It is going to take more than an ODU loss in Huntington to land both teams in the same side of the bracket.

Unless, of course, you guys are aiming a 6th or 7th place finish in conference play.

Marshall can certainly help their case this week with a L against UNT. With a loss to UTSA already under their belt they could be set to lock-in the coveted 6th seed in the conference tourney!
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You know the Marshall motto, a slightly more derelict version of ours, "Aim Medium High"
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So if Western wins out, probably not happening, but lets go with it....

Western would get the #1 seed over Middle in all tie breakers?
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(02-13-2018 07:45 AM)odu09 Wrote:  You know the Marshall motto, a slightly more derelict version of ours, "Aim Medium High"

I can't wait to crush ODU in Huntington Thursday.
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(02-12-2018 11:52 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 10:08 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We are factoring an ODU loss in Huntington right? Because we are going to win that game. I would love to be in that side of the bracket with ODU.

Yeah, I'd like that matchup a lot too.

Yeah, probably shouldn't considering you barely beat a sick and injured team at home.
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(02-17-2018 09:16 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
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(02-12-2018 10:08 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We are factoring an ODU loss in Huntington right? Because we are going to win that game. I would love to be in that side of the bracket with ODU.

Yeah, I'd like that matchup a lot too.

Yeah, probably shouldn't considering you barely beat a sick and injured team at home.
Considering that was over a month ago I wouldn't put much stock into how we played then.

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(02-12-2018 11:52 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 10:08 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We are factoring an ODU loss in Huntington right? Because we are going to win that game. I would love to be in that side of the bracket with ODU.

Yeah, I'd like that matchup a lot too.
If they and WKU can beat MTSU they'll be on our side as a 4 with us a 1.

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(02-17-2018 09:14 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 07:45 AM)odu09 Wrote:  You know the Marshall motto, a slightly more derelict version of ours, "Aim Medium High"

I can't wait to crush ODU in Huntington Thursday.
You'll be lucky to stay within 30.

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(02-17-2018 09:17 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  
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(02-12-2018 11:52 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 10:08 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  We are factoring an ODU loss in Huntington right? Because we are going to win that game. I would love to be in that side of the bracket with ODU.

Yeah, I'd like that matchup a lot too.

Yeah, probably shouldn't considering you barely beat a sick and injured team at home.
Considering that was over a month ago I wouldn't put much stock into how we played then.

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(02-17-2018 12:43 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  So if Western wins out, probably not happening, but lets go with it....

Western would get the #1 seed over Middle in all tie breakers?

Shooting from the hip. You win out with two conference losses, MT has at least two. The tie breaker is split head to head. If ODU is #3, WKU is 2-0 & MT is 1-0 against ODU so WKU wins tiebreaker and is #1 seed.
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Still MTSU tournament to lose...WKU and ODU in semis for a third time is going to be a battle....MTSU, WKU and ODU is far and away top 3 teams this season and all have very different styles....
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(02-17-2018 10:57 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Still MTSU tournament to lose...WKU and ODU in semis for a third time is going to be a battle....MTSU, WKU and ODU is far and away top 3 teams this season and all have very different styles....

Far and away? I don't think so. ODU barely won vs Marshall at home, Marshall beat Middle at home, first WKU game was a fluke and the beginning of the flu and injury disaster we had which carried into ODU. Second game could have gone either way at WKU. On a neutral floor, Marshall has just as much chance to win this tourney as ODU or WKU. While Middle is the favorite, in no way is WKU or ODU "far and away" better.
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(02-17-2018 10:46 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 09:14 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 07:45 AM)odu09 Wrote:  You know the Marshall motto, a slightly more derelict version of ours, "Aim Medium High"

I can't wait to crush ODU in Huntington Thursday.
You'll be lucky to stay within 30.

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That makes me laugh.
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clt says you forgot Charlotte.
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