I found an interesting concept
here.
(02-24-2018 09:30 AM)owl at the moon Wrote: (02-23-2018 11:25 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: (02-23-2018 07:42 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Well, one thing I do see is consolidation works. The best of the G5 need to consolidate into one league as much as possible It makes a difference in football SOS and it makes an even bigger (and more significant) difference in basketball RPI.
What about more of a promotion/demotion system in the G5?
One coast-2-coast TV contract where appearances and schedules would be regulated by last years finish.
Could it make enough of a difference in football scheduling to the point where the best G5 team is considered playoff worthy?
There are about 60 teams in G5. Break it into 3 regions.
West 20: MWC, NMSU, BYU, Texas schools
South 20: CUSA/SBC/ACC southern schools
North 20: MAC, Temple, UC, Marshall, Army, UConn, UMass, Navy, Liberty, ODU
The way it could work is the better 10 schools in each region form the A division while the other 10 form the B division. This way the A division has a SOS more competitive for the playoff.
Division A champion would go to a CFP bowl.
Division B champion would go to a minor bowl.
Could TV get excited about something like this? Would the fans be more excited to enjoy a different alignment each year?
Could Tulane make a bowl playing in the B division? Against lower tier CUSA and SBC competition maybe so.
I was going to mention the promotion/relegation concept in your thread about marketing the G5.
Yes, absolutely that would definitely create fan interest and quite possibly institutional interest in such an arrangement.
Would it impress the P5 ranking committee? Hell no. But it would be something marketable. And every game matters, even 1-10 vs 2-9, with relegation on the line...
This just might be crazy enough to work... But, G5 fan bases might need to be okay with saying **** all to historical/regional rivalries if your team is is promoted/demoted. Perhaps one maybe two games per team could be protected (as in they play every year even if they're "out of division"). There'd also need to be a lot of work done to make sure that P5 schools play a considerable amount of Division A schools (there may be pushback on this as they wouldn't be traditional "cupcakes").
I'd do the promotion/relegation system like Premier League and EFL Championship. Division A gets three relegations, and Division B get three promotions. You could even tie each relegation and promotion to each region. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(02-24-2018 09:21 AM)owl at the moon Wrote: Sure. But to really make this worthwhile you need to hire a G5 Director to coordinate. And of course you need a catchy name for the so-called G5 that is also not denigrating.
I agree, but I have no idea what that name could be. Every division split in the past has been the have and have-nots. University/College Division, DI/DII, D1-A/D1-AA, FBS/FCS, P5/G5. Unless the goal is for Division A schools to go head to head with P5, I'm not sure there's a good way to market the G5
without acknowledging they're "non-power" or "non-major".
(02-24-2018 09:21 AM)owl at the moon Wrote: But for Football, what you really need is a de facto Group championship game the week after the conference championships. Winner goes to NYD, 2nd place still gets a decent bowl against a P5. Pirate Bowl, sure. 3rd place game winner also gets a decent bowl against a P5 maybe out west (Boise, Fresno, Hawaii?). This group championship round is technically a replacement for one regular season game. So every G5 saves a date in the schedule for one flex game that is assigned by the G5 Director. If you’re not in the running for the conference title it can stay late in the regular season (and be a nearby conference crossover opponent).
So if we look at the Division A - Division B system, do Division B schools still have a shot at the NY6 access bowl?
Let's look at UCF:
2015 0-12 (obviously would be relegated or would remain in Division B)
2016 6-7 in Division B (decent, but not good enough for promotion to Division A)
2017 12-0 in Division B
Surely UCF would be promoted to Division A in 2018, but would they have made the 2017 NY6 game?