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Jim Delany says condensed basketball schedule 'wasn't healthy' and won't be repeated
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Quote:“I appreciate the sacrifices the teams made, the impact it had on our students,” Delany said. “Wasn’t good. Wasn’t healthy. I thought starting (the conference schedule) early was OK, but if you look at our schedules (through the years), we’ve been able to give everybody two-day prep (before games) in 99 percent of the cases.

“We won’t do it again this way, and I take responsibility for asking the coaches. … If we can make it back to the Garden on a regular week, that’s great.

“I know we will be back out East. Where we will be, I don’t know. It won’t be on a regular basis. I expect that 80 percent will be in legacy territory (Chicago and Indianapolis) and probably 20 percent out East, whether it’s in D.C. or Philadelphia or New York.”
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Do you think at some point the Big Ten presidents will stop pandering to Delany's obsession with all things East Coast? or is this really the only strategy the B1G has?

NYC makes a lot more sense for the ACC (with BC and Syracuse where they are), and I'm not even sure THAT is such a good idea. The college teams which are really close to NYC are in the Big East (although wit Syracuse and BC in the ACC, I doubt that tournament ever recaptures the old atmosphere)

To an outsider looking in, Chicago just makes so much sense for the Big Ten basketball tournament. Maybe Indianapolis, with an occasional trip to Philadelphia or Washington to appease Penn State / Rutgers / Maryland fans? Sure, NYC has lots of B1G alumni (as well as ACC, SEC, and Big XII alumni), but it's just outside the Big Ten footprint - even assuming the league can get a venue during the normal week.

Thoughts?
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(02-24-2018 03:47 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Do you think at some point the Big Ten presidents will stop pandering to Delany's obsession with all things East Coast? or is this really the only strategy the B1G has?

NYC makes a lot more sense for the ACC (with BC and Syracuse where they are), and I'm not even sure THAT is such a good idea. The college teams which are really close to NYC are in the Big East (although wit Syracuse and BC in the ACC, I doubt that tournament ever recaptures the old atmosphere)

To an outsider looking in, Chicago just makes so much sense for the Big Ten basketball tournament. Maybe Indianapolis, with an occasional trip to Philadelphia or Washington to appease Penn State / Rutgers / Maryland fans? Sure, NYC has lots of B1G alumni (as well as ACC, SEC, and Big XII alumni), but it's just outside the Big Ten footprint - even assuming the league can get a venue during the normal week.

Thoughts?

I don't think it's a bad idea to have it in NYC, but if they rotated between several sites, it would make for better planning.

I'd like to throw Milwaukee's hat in the ring. We just spent half a billion on the new arena, why not have the B1G tournament there?
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RE: Jim Delany says condensed basketball schedule 'wasn't healthy' and won't be repeated
(02-24-2018 03:47 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Do you think at some point the Big Ten presidents will stop pandering to Delany's obsession with all things East Coast? or is this really the only strategy the B1G has?

NYC makes a lot more sense for the ACC (with BC and Syracuse where they are), and I'm not even sure THAT is such a good idea. The college teams which are really close to NYC are in the Big East (although wit Syracuse and BC in the ACC, I doubt that tournament ever recaptures the old atmosphere)

To an outsider looking in, Chicago just makes so much sense for the Big Ten basketball tournament. Maybe Indianapolis, with an occasional trip to Philadelphia or Washington to appease Penn State / Rutgers / Maryland fans? Sure, NYC has lots of B1G alumni (as well as ACC, SEC, and Big XII alumni), but it's just outside the Big Ten footprint - even assuming the league can get a venue during the normal week.

Thoughts?

The Big Ten has the Midwest on lock-down. They want to expand into areas they don't have an iron grip on. Based on geography, that would either move through the Dakotas into Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and into the Pacific coast, down the Mississippi into Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas, and Louisiana area, the Ohio Valley area of Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia area, or the Northeast. Based on demographics, the Northeast makes the most sense at this time. Delany is probably doing what the presidents want, not the other way around.

If Rutgers got any sort of momentum for men's basketball for any length of time, I think they could really turn some heads in New York City. Penn State is never terrible but they are almost never good enough to make the NCAA tournament and can't get a real following (plus their football is a juggernaut that everyone focuses on). If the right schools did well enough for a decent length of time, New York City would be the Big Ten's but shared with others. I don't think the ACC is stronger there. Boston College is basically Rutgers but further away and without the potential. Syracuse is the biggest NYC draw for the ACC (and is a good one) but that's about it. Duke and North Carolina have the brand to draw but that's true of anywhere. If Michigan State and Indiana were both highly ranked, they'd do well in NYC as well. The Big Ten wasn't going to be huge in NYC overnight. They are playing the long game.
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RE: Jim Delany says condensed basketball schedule 'wasn't healthy' and won't be repeated
(02-24-2018 03:47 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Do you think at some point the Big Ten presidents will stop pandering to Delany's obsession with all things East Coast? or is this really the only strategy the B1G has?

NYC makes a lot more sense for the ACC (with BC and Syracuse where they are), and I'm not even sure THAT is such a good idea. The college teams which are really close to NYC are in the Big East (although wit Syracuse and BC in the ACC, I doubt that tournament ever recaptures the old atmosphere)

To an outsider looking in, Chicago just makes so much sense for the Big Ten basketball tournament. Maybe Indianapolis, with an occasional trip to Philadelphia or Washington to appease Penn State / Rutgers / Maryland fans? Sure, NYC has lots of B1G alumni (as well as ACC, SEC, and Big XII alumni), but it's just outside the Big Ten footprint - even assuming the league can get a venue during the normal week.

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Rutgers, Penn St and Maryland are closer to NYC than BC, Cuse and Pitt. Still the ACC with SEVEN former Big East schools is the only other major that makes sense bringing its tournament to NYC. Simply put, nobody is going to be able to pry the BE out of MSG for that week. The ACC is playing out in Brooklyn. The arena is first rate and the area is much nicer than it used to be. But it can not come close to the atmosphere of being in Midtown and playing at MSG. Thie NYC experiment has fallen short for both conferences. They would both be better off not trying to repeat it. We may see the BIG occasionally go to DC or Philly, but I think Midwestern cities should host from now on.
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(02-24-2018 02:59 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(02-24-2018 03:47 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Do you think at some point the Big Ten presidents will stop pandering to Delany's obsession with all things East Coast? or is this really the only strategy the B1G has?

NYC makes a lot more sense for the ACC (with BC and Syracuse where they are), and I'm not even sure THAT is such a good idea. The college teams which are really close to NYC are in the Big East (although wit Syracuse and BC in the ACC, I doubt that tournament ever recaptures the old atmosphere)

To an outsider looking in, Chicago just makes so much sense for the Big Ten basketball tournament. Maybe Indianapolis, with an occasional trip to Philadelphia or Washington to appease Penn State / Rutgers / Maryland fans? Sure, NYC has lots of B1G alumni (as well as ACC, SEC, and Big XII alumni), but it's just outside the Big Ten footprint - even assuming the league can get a venue during the normal week.

Thoughts?

I don't think it's a bad idea to have it in NYC, but if they rotated between several sites, it would make for better planning.

I'd like to throw Milwaukee's hat in the ring. We just spent half a billion on the new arena, why not have the B1G tournament there?

If you want to throw out Milwaukee, why not Columbus at Nationwide Arena? They are hosting the Women’s NCAA final four this year and are a host for the 2019 Men’s tournament
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RE: Jim Delany says condensed basketball schedule 'wasn't healthy' and won't be repeated
Michael Smith Interviews Jim Delany

https://soundcloud.com/sbj_sbd/jim-delany
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RE: Jim Delany says condensed basketball schedule 'wasn't healthy' and won't be repeated
I get the idea of the east coast presence. I wasn't in favor of expanding, but we are 14 teams now, with 3 on the east coast. The idea is that the conference wants to "live there" and not have those schools feel like outposts and thus somewhere around 20% of the conference tournaments would be east coast events. I don't particularly like the east coast focus and think the furthest west teams are being shortchanged a bit here, but with all the additions I get the idea of wanting to put attention there.

So I guess that while I would definitely prefer all conference tournaments in Indianapolis or Chicago, I think it probably is smart to put one in the east every few years (although would keep it to 2 a decade and not have them back to back).

Regardless, I am glad they decided moving up the schedule was not a good idea and won't repeat. While I enjoyed this year, it wasn't good for the players and don't think the extra sitting time is doing the conference any favors either.
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RE: Jim Delany says condensed basketball schedule 'wasn't healthy' and won't be repeated
(02-26-2018 01:20 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(02-24-2018 02:59 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(02-24-2018 03:47 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  Do you think at some point the Big Ten presidents will stop pandering to Delany's obsession with all things East Coast? or is this really the only strategy the B1G has?

NYC makes a lot more sense for the ACC (with BC and Syracuse where they are), and I'm not even sure THAT is such a good idea. The college teams which are really close to NYC are in the Big East (although wit Syracuse and BC in the ACC, I doubt that tournament ever recaptures the old atmosphere)

To an outsider looking in, Chicago just makes so much sense for the Big Ten basketball tournament. Maybe Indianapolis, with an occasional trip to Philadelphia or Washington to appease Penn State / Rutgers / Maryland fans? Sure, NYC has lots of B1G alumni (as well as ACC, SEC, and Big XII alumni), but it's just outside the Big Ten footprint - even assuming the league can get a venue during the normal week.

Thoughts?

I don't think it's a bad idea to have it in NYC, but if they rotated between several sites, it would make for better planning.

I'd like to throw Milwaukee's hat in the ring. We just spent half a billion on the new arena, why not have the B1G tournament there?

If you want to throw out Milwaukee, why not Columbus at Nationwide Arena? They are hosting the Women’s NCAA final four this year and are a host for the 2019 Men’s tournament

I honestly don't see why the tournament shouldn't rotate between venues. If they don't want to have it in a on campus arena, that's fine, but why not let every area get a taste?

They could do something similar in football as well. B1G Championship to be decided at Lambeau Field has a nice ring to it.

Omaha, Milwaukee, Columbus, DC, NYC, etc, should all be able to host and reap the benefits.
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The Big East has the Garden. If the Big 10 comes east again, Philly or DC is probably better.
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I think the B1G and Big East are on good terms, with the Gavitt Games and all. It would not surprise me if there is a future agreement to swap out the regular week at MSG for the next rotation. After all the Big East has become fast friends with B1G while having an axe to grind in keeping ACC out of MSG.

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