Quote:Tentative plans for Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto to make his first visit to the White House to meet with President Trump were scuttled last week after a testy call between the two leaders ended in an impasse over Trump’s promised border wall, according to U.S. and Mexican officials.

Peña Nieto was eyeing an official trip to Washington this month or in March, but both countries agreed to call off the plan after Trump would not agree to publicly affirm Mexico’s position that it would not fund construction of a border wall that the Mexican people widely consider offensive, said the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a confidential conversation.

One Mexican official said Trump “lost his temper.” But U.S. officials described him instead as being frustrated and exasperated, saying Trump believed it was unreasonable for Peña Nieto to expect him to back off his crowd-pleasing campaign promise of forcing Mexico to pay for the wall.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...040e0ddf1c

I guess they think it will work and they will have to pay for it.

Quote:Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto

Who?

He probably wanted to stay and then Trump told him

Quote:A physically slight man, Peña Nieto has been loath to put himself in an environment in which the more imposing Trump could play the bully. Peña Nieto’s style is exceedingly formal, and he is averse to verbal combat, making his carefully scripted public events the opposite of Trump’s often freewheeling appearances.

I imagine Nieto would prefer something like this:

(02-24-2018 09:15 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

Quote:A physically slight man, Peña Nieto has been loath to put himself in an environment in which the more imposing Trump could play the bully. Peña Nieto’s style is exceedingly formal, and he is averse to verbal combat, making his carefully scripted public events the opposite of Trump’s often freewheeling appearances.

I imagine Nieto would prefer something like this:

what a buffoon

(02-24-2018 09:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 09:15 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

Quote:A physically slight man, Peña Nieto has been loath to put himself in an environment in which the more imposing Trump could play the bully. Peña Nieto’s style is exceedingly formal, and he is averse to verbal combat, making his carefully scripted public events the opposite of Trump’s often freewheeling appearances.

I imagine Nieto would prefer something like this:

what a buffoon

A buffoon bowing to the mayor of Tampa.

Quote:"The mayor of Tampa isn’t a Third World potentate, totalitarian dictator, or terrorist leader so I can’t understand why Obama would be in full-bow mode," a post on the conservative blog Red State read. "Is bowing now the standard way the President greets people these days?"

"It's ok little Peña. Go on home now. You should contact PM Trudeau. He's really good at dealing with hurt feelings and fragile emotions."

Transforming America and all.....

(02-24-2018 09:46 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Transforming America and all.....

Yeah, I thought he just meant socially, like importing undocumented dims. Seems he also meant transforming the DOJ and FBI.

Is the Mexican government proud that 20% of their population has left for the USA in the last 25 years?

(02-24-2018 10:47 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Is the Mexican government proud that 20% of their population has left for the USA in the last 25 years?

Si señor.

Says all you need to know as to if the wall would actually work.

(02-24-2018 11:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Says all you need to know as to if the wall would actually work.

Or if it's needed.

All the electronics and drones in the world can be turned off in a minute.

Wall? Yea, try to champion legislation to bring it down.

Let's get this done. Keep the fence jumpers outta here. Put in a nice pearly gate, one that can be closed and locked when needed as well.

Serious question -- do you guys really believe that spending over $25 billion to construct a partial wall along the southern border of the US is the best means of dealing with illegal immigration from Mexico (and Central America)? Do you believe that the best solution to the undocumented non-citizens among us is to "deport them all?" And to those claiming to be conservatives, do you feel those solutions best represent the principles of conservatism?

(02-25-2018 08:58 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  Serious question -- do you guys really believe that spending over $25 billion to construct a partial wall along the southern border of the US is the best means of dealing with illegal immigration from Mexico (and Central America)? Do you believe that the best solution to the undocumented non-citizens among us is to "deport them all?" And to those claiming to be conservatives, do you feel those solutions best represent the principles of conservatism?

The fence systems of San Diego and El Paso work well, and in other places. What is the cost of illegal immigration annually, depressed wages, crime prison rates, public school systems flooded with illegals?

(02-25-2018 09:06 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-25-2018 08:58 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  Serious question -- do you guys really believe that spending over $25 billion to construct a partial wall along the southern border of the US is the best means of dealing with illegal immigration from Mexico (and Central America)? Do you believe that the best solution to the undocumented non-citizens among us is to "deport them all?" And to those claiming to be conservatives, do you feel those solutions best represent the principles of conservatism?

The fence systems of San Diego and El Paso work well, and in other places. What is the cost of illegal immigration annually, depressed wages, crime prison rates, public school systems flooded with illegals?

You didn't answer the questions. I agree that walls or fences can have some effect in more densely populated areas of the border. To answer your question though, I don't know the cost of illegal immigration, but it is way too high to be left untreated. I am asking if you believe that these sound-bite solutions are the most efficient and effective means of dealing with these serious issues or might other alternatives be a better way to solve some of this? I would also like to see responses to the last question of my post.

(02-24-2018 09:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-24-2018 09:15 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

Quote:A physically slight man, Peña Nieto has been loath to put himself in an environment in which the more imposing Trump could play the bully. Peña Nieto’s style is exceedingly formal, and he is averse to verbal combat, making his carefully scripted public events the opposite of Trump’s often freewheeling appearances.

I imagine Nieto would prefer something like this:

what a buffoon

and he has big hands and ears....

#8yearsofshitebetween