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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
So, corporate tax cuts aren't actually economic policy, they're a reward for supporting the ruling party's political positions. Got it.
There's a word for the combination of corporatism and nationalism. Can't seem to put my finger on it.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
One year when a few firefighters went to Dallas for Live Fire Training mandated by the FAA we flew Delta. We got a laugh from some Dallas firefighters who called Delta "Doesn't Ever Leave The Airport". The next day when we were leaving we had to wait for another aircraft because something was wrong with the first one. We were laughing at that acronym (?) because it turned out true.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 07:18 PM)58-56 Wrote: So, corporate tax cuts aren't actually economic policy, they're a reward for supporting the ruling party's political positions. Got it.
There's a word for the combination of corporatism and nationalism. Can't seem to put my finger on it.
Yeah, they've gone way over the deep end.
The butt hurt in this thread is strong.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
They should be butthurt over the companies that never gave them a discount.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
Living in Houston, I'm probably not going to boycott United over the NRA. But this does bring up an interesting point. Leftists are always talking about boycotting this company or that company over political positions. Doesn't always work, certainly didn't hurt Chick-fil-a, but then again, LBGT is not exactly their target market. Question is this, why doesn't the right do this more often? I would think there are lots of opportunities to have a major impact.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 08:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Living in Houston, I'm probably not going to boycott United over the NRA. But this does bring up an interesting point. Leftists are always talking about boycotting this company or that company over political positions. Doesn't always work, certainly didn't hurt Chick-fil-a, but then again, LBGT is not exactly their target market. Question is this, why doesn't the right do this more often? I would think there are lots of opportunities to have a major impact.
Too busy being normal. Folks right of center are not activists like the left.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 05:13 PM)shere khan Wrote: (02-26-2018 04:52 PM)fsquid Wrote: (02-26-2018 04:46 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Delta’s tax break may not take flight after Georgia Senate blocks it
The Georgia Senate blocked a lucrative tax break bill on Monday that would benefit Delta Air Lines after the Atlanta-based company severed ties with the National Rifle Association.
https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional...7KAuudmyH/
they should block it, where is Delta going to move to? Detroit?
memphis
They already ****** Memphis
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 08:38 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (02-26-2018 08:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Living in Houston, I'm probably not going to boycott United over the NRA. But this does bring up an interesting point. Leftists are always talking about boycotting this company or that company over political positions. Doesn't always work, certainly didn't hurt Chick-fil-a, but then again, LBGT is not exactly their target market. Question is this, why doesn't the right do this more often? I would think there are lots of opportunities to have a major impact.
Too busy being normal. Folks right of center are not activists like the left.
Yeah, the slactivism bullsh*t has gotten out of control. There are way too many alt-leftists out there that base the value of their lives on menial, political movements. They can't just be happy with supporting what they like, they have to threaten that of which someone else enjoys, and they're becoming more authoritarian by the day. It makes sense, because they don't actually ever accomplish anything, and so they keep taking it up another notch.
That crap that Hogg has been spewing for example, he has made it fashionable to call your political opponents, "murderers". He's dehumanizing everyone that doesn't agree with him, and you can't say anything about it, because then you're against the kids. This is the kind of stuff that incites the james t. hodgkinson's of the world.
Hogg says ban the NRA. CNN says ban Alex Jones, and is encouraging their viewers to flag all his videos in attempt to trick the algorithm. Amazon is being pressured to ban NRATV. Youtube is being pressured to ban gun channels. Their next plan is to go after the payment processors and banks. That is straight out of the Nazi playbook, where if one dissented, they would take it out on everyone and burn an entire city to the ground to teach a lesson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fyPsc69UMs#t=90m38s
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 09:03 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: (02-26-2018 07:18 PM)58-56 Wrote: So, corporate tax cuts aren't actually economic policy, they're a reward for supporting the ruling party's political positions. Got it.
There's a word for the combination of corporatism and nationalism. Can't seem to put my finger on it.
So trumps tax cuts benefit liberal companies like google and more conservative ones as well. But you frame it as "a reward for supporting the ruling party's political positions"
There's a word for taking someones reasonable position and mutating it into something abhorrent and immoral, thus making it easier to denegrate. Can't seem to put my finger on it.
I didn't frame it that way, Georgia Lt. Gov Casey Cagle did:
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I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its relationship with @NRA. Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back.
And let's make this clear: Cagle is the lieutenant governor of Georgia, not some Breitbart bloviator. An elected official threatening to use the power of his office to pick winners and losers in a business dispute. The sort of thing "conservatives" used to oppose, before the meteor wiped them out.
This was not a Trump tax cut. It had nothing to do with Trump, some calm down there, big guy. The state of Georgia passed a $40 million giveaway to Delta because tax cuts. Now Cagle wants to take it away because he's butthurt that Delta dissed his little gun club.
There's actually more than one word for that.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 10:10 PM)58-56 Wrote: This was not a Trump tax cut. It had nothing to do with Trump, some calm down there, big guy. The state of Georgia passed a $40 million giveaway to Delta because tax cuts. Now Cagle wants to take it away because he's butthurt that Delta dissed his little gun club.
There's actually more than one word for that.
Politics being one of them... Or are you going to call all the doings of the state department and the Clinton foundation "a-ok"....
It sucks, I disagree with
1 - Having a tax cut aimed at a single company
2 - Taking the tax cut away..
But it's politics. Look at all the companies Obama gave "green energy money to" and then look at their contributions to Obama..
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
Insurance Co. for Carry Guard pulling out.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 07:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote: One year when a few firefighters went to Dallas for Live Fire Training mandated by the FAA we flew Delta. We got a laugh from some Dallas firefighters who called Delta "Doesn't Ever Leave The Airport". The next day when we were leaving we had to wait for another aircraft because something was wrong with the first one. We were laughing at that acronym (?) because it turned out true.
Delta's one of the most arrogant companies I've ever seen. Their customer service outside Atlanta reflects that. Atlanta is tolerable simply because Atlantans are nice in spite of being Delta employees.
They spent millions trying to shut down expansion of an airport in Paulding County west of Atlanta. They would have flown some minor scheduled flights like from Atlanta to small towns in Florida. But Delta didn't want competition to be able to eventually come in at another airport. They funded local opposition and lawyers. And, of course, they ask for tax breaks and have been very active in trying to tell the Georgia government what they can and cannot do.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
Delta wanted to make a political statement to appease the left, they can deal with the political consequences of pissing off the right.
Maybe they can ask the folks who's tweets made them change their association with the NRA to start a GoFundMe to pay the difference.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 10:59 PM)Kaplony Wrote: Delta wanted to make a political statement to appease the left, they can deal with the political consequences of pissing off the right.
Maybe they can ask the folks who's tweets made them change their association with the NRA to start a GoFundMe to pay the difference.
Their president did the same thing with religious liberty bills last year.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 10:10 PM)58-56 Wrote: (02-26-2018 09:03 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: (02-26-2018 07:18 PM)58-56 Wrote: So, corporate tax cuts aren't actually economic policy, they're a reward for supporting the ruling party's political positions. Got it.
There's a word for the combination of corporatism and nationalism. Can't seem to put my finger on it.
So trumps tax cuts benefit liberal companies like google and more conservative ones as well. But you frame it as "a reward for supporting the ruling party's political positions"
There's a word for taking someones reasonable position and mutating it into something abhorrent and immoral, thus making it easier to denegrate. Can't seem to put my finger on it.
I didn't frame it that way, Georgia Lt. Gov Casey Cagle did:
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I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its relationship with @NRA. Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back.
And let's make this clear: Cagle is the lieutenant governor of Georgia, not some Breitbart bloviator. An elected official threatening to use the power of his office to pick winners and losers in a business dispute. The sort of thing "conservatives" used to oppose, before the meteor wiped them out.
This was not a Trump tax cut. It had nothing to do with Trump, some calm down there, big guy. The state of Georgia passed a $40 million giveaway to Delta because tax cuts. Now Cagle wants to take it away because he's butthurt that Delta dissed his little gun club.
There's actually more than one word for that.
Or possibly some people see it as a direct attack on the Bill of Rights and are responding accordingly.
You see, you can characterize how you view things...murderers, monsters, gun-nuts, terrorists. But that doesn't alter how others view their rights.
This is not just another political points game. This is a 3rd rail Bill of Rights issue. THE fundamental freedom that defends the rest of the Bill of Rights in the eyes of many. For many...it shall not be infringed...and they mean it.
Pretty scary territory here.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-26-2018 10:10 PM)58-56 Wrote: (02-26-2018 09:03 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: (02-26-2018 07:18 PM)58-56 Wrote: So, corporate tax cuts aren't actually economic policy, they're a reward for supporting the ruling party's political positions. Got it.
There's a word for the combination of corporatism and nationalism. Can't seem to put my finger on it.
So trumps tax cuts benefit liberal companies like google and more conservative ones as well. But you frame it as "a reward for supporting the ruling party's political positions"
There's a word for taking someones reasonable position and mutating it into something abhorrent and immoral, thus making it easier to denegrate. Can't seem to put my finger on it.
I didn't frame it that way, Georgia Lt. Gov Casey Cagle did:
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I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its relationship with @NRA. Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back.
And let's make this clear: Cagle is the lieutenant governor of Georgia, not some Breitbart bloviator. An elected official threatening to use the power of his office to pick winners and losers in a business dispute. The sort of thing "conservatives" used to oppose, before the meteor wiped them out.
This was not a Trump tax cut. It had nothing to do with Trump, some calm down there, big guy. The state of Georgia passed a $40 million giveaway to Delta because tax cuts. Now Cagle wants to take it away because he's butthurt that Delta dissed his little gun club.
There's actually more than one word for that.
elections have consequences
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
Bunch of snowflakes in this thread getting their panties in a wad. Oh wait sorry that only works when the left cries about something a business does my mistake.
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
(02-27-2018 07:28 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Bunch of snowflakes in this thread getting their panties in a wad. Oh wait sorry that only works when the left cries about something a business does my mistake.
The difference is, of course, that nobody *HERE* is looking for a government remedy where as liberal snow flakes want to use the government to force others to play nice.
Of course a sharp cat like you knew that..
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
Conservatives have gone bat **** crazy......
What in the hell has happened to the party of small govt? Separation between govt. and business. Georgia Republicans want to stop a tax break over this?
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RE: NRA v. Delta, United, Avis, et al
Crony Capitalism was their word....... morons.......
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