(02-28-2018 08:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nor do you realize apparently that you cannot legally register to vote unless you are a US citizen.

Just like how you cannot legally enter this country without paperwork or permission from the State Department?

Just because something is illegal does not mean people will not exert an in ordinate amount of effort to do it if they believe it benefits them. Basing your argument on 'well its illegal so it wont happen' is insane.

Criminals are not allowed to own guns... and yet somehow they obtain and use guns all the time. How are they doing that when its 'illegal'? Oh yea, because they dont give a f*ck about what is and isn't illegal and there is no way to stop it from happening. It doesn't matter that there are countless rules and laws to stop them from doing it, they are doing it.

(02-28-2018 09:58 AM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 08:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nor do you realize apparently that you cannot legally register to vote unless you are a US citizen.

Just like how you cannot legally enter this country without paperwork or permission from the State Department?

Just because something is illegal does not mean people will not exert an in ordinate amount of effort to do it if they believe it benefits them. Basing your argument on 'well its illegal so it wont happen' is insane.

Criminals are not allowed to own guns... and yet somehow they obtain and use guns all the time. How are they doing that when its 'illegal'? Oh yea, because they dont give a f*ck about what is and isn't illegal and there is no way to stop it from happening. It doesn't matter that there are countless rules and laws to stop them from doing it, they are doing it.

Totally understand. But the issue HERE is in-person voter fraud. It just doesn't happen with all that much frequency.

(02-28-2018 12:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 09:58 AM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 08:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nor do you realize apparently that you cannot legally register to vote unless you are a US citizen.

Just like how you cannot legally enter this country without paperwork or permission from the State Department?

Just because something is illegal does not mean people will not exert an in ordinate amount of effort to do it if they believe it benefits them. Basing your argument on 'well its illegal so it wont happen' is insane.

Criminals are not allowed to own guns... and yet somehow they obtain and use guns all the time. How are they doing that when its 'illegal'? Oh yea, because they dont give a f*ck about what is and isn't illegal and there is no way to stop it from happening. It doesn't matter that there are countless rules and laws to stop them from doing it, they are doing it.

Totally understand. But the issue HERE is in-person voter fraud. It just doesn't happen with all that much frequency.

How about "in-person" illegal firearms possession and using them. The point remains, those wanting to break laws do it all the time - why give them tools to do it easier??

..........ah, that would be because Democrats (that includes you) want them to vote for them - legal or not - and they are doing things to make that easier.......

(02-28-2018 12:18 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 09:58 AM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 08:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nor do you realize apparently that you cannot legally register to vote unless you are a US citizen.

Just like how you cannot legally enter this country without paperwork or permission from the State Department?

Just because something is illegal does not mean people will not exert an in ordinate amount of effort to do it if they believe it benefits them. Basing your argument on 'well its illegal so it wont happen' is insane.

Criminals are not allowed to own guns... and yet somehow they obtain and use guns all the time. How are they doing that when its 'illegal'? Oh yea, because they dont give a f*ck about what is and isn't illegal and there is no way to stop it from happening. It doesn't matter that there are countless rules and laws to stop them from doing it, they are doing it.

Totally understand. But the issue HERE is in-person voter fraud. It just doesn't happen with all that much frequency.

How about "in-person" illegal firearms possession and using them. The point remains, those wanting to break laws do it all the time - why give them tools to do it easier??

..........ah, that would be because Democrats (that includes you) want them to vote for them - legal or not - and they are doing things to make that easier.......

Still not a democrat and you really aren't even aware of my position on gun control or voter registration apparently. So just stop.

(02-28-2018 12:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 09:58 AM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 08:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nor do you realize apparently that you cannot legally register to vote unless you are a US citizen.

Just like how you cannot legally enter this country without paperwork or permission from the State Department?
Just because something is illegal does not mean people will not exert an in ordinate amount of effort to do it if they believe it benefits them. Basing your argument on 'well its illegal so it wont happen' is insane.
Criminals are not allowed to own guns... and yet somehow they obtain and use guns all the time. How are they doing that when its 'illegal'? Oh yea, because they dont give a f*ck about what is and isn't illegal and there is no way to stop it from happening. It doesn't matter that there are countless rules and laws to stop them from doing it, they are doing it.

Totally understand. But the issue HERE is in-person voter fraud. It just doesn't happen with all that much frequency.

If thee is no way to detect it, how can anyone possibly know how often it happens?

(02-28-2018 12:44 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 09:58 AM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 08:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nor do you realize apparently that you cannot legally register to vote unless you are a US citizen.

Just like how you cannot legally enter this country without paperwork or permission from the State Department?
Just because something is illegal does not mean people will not exert an in ordinate amount of effort to do it if they believe it benefits them. Basing your argument on 'well its illegal so it wont happen' is insane.
Criminals are not allowed to own guns... and yet somehow they obtain and use guns all the time. How are they doing that when its 'illegal'? Oh yea, because they dont give a f*ck about what is and isn't illegal and there is no way to stop it from happening. It doesn't matter that there are countless rules and laws to stop them from doing it, they are doing it.

Totally understand. But the issue HERE is in-person voter fraud. It just doesn't happen with all that much frequency.

If thee is no way to detect it, how can anyone possibly know how often it happens?

Who says there's no way to detect it? We do catch people doing it.

(02-28-2018 01:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:44 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 09:58 AM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 08:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nor do you realize apparently that you cannot legally register to vote unless you are a US citizen.

Just like how you cannot legally enter this country without paperwork or permission from the State Department?
Just because something is illegal does not mean people will not exert an in ordinate amount of effort to do it if they believe it benefits them. Basing your argument on 'well its illegal so it wont happen' is insane.
Criminals are not allowed to own guns... and yet somehow they obtain and use guns all the time. How are they doing that when its 'illegal'? Oh yea, because they dont give a f*ck about what is and isn't illegal and there is no way to stop it from happening. It doesn't matter that there are countless rules and laws to stop them from doing it, they are doing it.

Totally understand. But the issue HERE is in-person voter fraud. It just doesn't happen with all that much frequency.

If thee is no way to detect it, how can anyone possibly know how often it happens?

Who says there's no way to detect it? We do catch people doing it.

Do we? How many? When? Where? How?