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RE: American conference headquarters
I know why the AAC is in Providence, but it is still bizarre that any conference would have a headquarters in a state that doesn't have a single university or program in it. It is literally forcing every other school to travel to a non-central location.

SEC is in Birmingham. B1G is in Rosemont, Illinois. ACC is in Greensboro. PAC is in San Francisco. Big 12 is in Irving. Big East is in New York City. A10 is in Virginia.

It would make sense for the AAC HQ to be in either Memphis or Dallas. Orlando would be the third option.
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(02-28-2018 08:37 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 02:12 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 02:08 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  A headquarter needs to be centered in a city, which is in the middle of the conferences footprint, that will support conference championship events,. 07-coffee3

We agree.

So I say it should be Memphis, Tennessee. See map below.

[Image: AAC_Map_institutions1500.jpg]
My 2 cents if you include WSU, you need to include Navy.

That said, Dallas probably makes the most sense.
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Kind of OT, maybe a bad take, but if all these AAC members wanted to be with their CUSA friends and move the HQ to Dallas, why not just stay in CUSA? Lured by the idea of joining an AQ conference before BCS was officially over? I'm genuinely curious.
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Providence is a nice city to work in an live in. Not much traffic, pretty affordable, clean and safe. For those visiting, there are excellent restaurants in Providence, plus Newport (hey, America's first resort) is an easy 30 minute drive.

Not sure how many employees are in the AAC offices, but it would be tough to ask them to uproot their families if it's not totally necessary.

I'm biased cuz an AAC employee is a neighbor, has a really nice family, awesome people, and i'd hate to see them have to leave.
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Needs to be in Raleigh.
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(02-28-2018 12:08 PM)McKinney Wrote:  Kind of OT, maybe a bad take, but if all these AAC members wanted to be with their CUSA friends and move the HQ to Dallas, why not just stay in CUSA? Lured by the idea of joining an AQ conference before BCS was officially over? I'm genuinely curious.

The Big 12 HQ are in Dallas, too. That's much more of a draw than the C-USA HQ. The CFP meets in the Dallas area, too.
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(02-28-2018 10:50 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I know why the AAC is in Providence, but it is still bizarre that any conference would have a headquarters in a state that doesn't have a single university or program in it. It is literally forcing every other school to travel to a non-central location.

SEC is in Birmingham. B1G is in Rosemont, Illinois. ACC is in Greensboro. PAC is in San Francisco. Big 12 is in Irving. Big East is in New York City. A10 is in Virginia.

It would make sense for the AAC HQ to be in either Memphis or Dallas. Orlando would be the third option.

Why does it matter? Is the AAC going to regularly meet in Providence for track and field or cheerleading? I would almost exaggerate and say that it could be based anywhere in the world but as long as it's in the continental US and east of the Rockies, it shouldn't be an issue for any member.
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(02-28-2018 01:19 PM)billyjack Wrote:  Providence is a nice city to work in an live in. Not much traffic, pretty affordable, clean and safe. For those visiting, there are excellent restaurants in Providence, plus Newport (hey, America's first resort) is an easy 30 minute drive.

Not sure how many employees are in the AAC offices, but it would be tough to ask them to uproot their families if it's not totally necessary.

I'm biased cuz an AAC employee is a neighbor, has a really nice family, awesome people, and i'd hate to see them have to leave.

I've never been there, but I figure if it is in New England, it must be pretty nice. I lived my very earliest years of life in New Hampshire and have only been back to New England twice as an adult, but the scenery, history, and overall uniqueness of the region is simply spectacular.

I certainly would not wish burdens upon families such as your friend's. I just think reality is that the AAC is going to move. The Providence headquarters were for the Big East Conference, i.e., Dave Gavitt's conference, i.e., Providence College & co.'s conference. The American conference simply is not any of that even if technically it has the same charter and HQ as the original version of the Big East. I just don't think, based on the info that has been gathered, that Providence is the league's long term home anymore. Again, I don't wish trouble for good people like your friend. Unfortunately, he or she will have some hard decisions to make about finding a new employer or uprooting most likely to Texas in the next couple of years. If they love the area, and my limited experience in New England tells me they have good reason to, I hope they find something great right in the Providence area.
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(02-28-2018 04:10 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 10:50 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I know why the AAC is in Providence, but it is still bizarre that any conference would have a headquarters in a state that doesn't have a single university or program in it. It is literally forcing every other school to travel to a non-central location.

SEC is in Birmingham. B1G is in Rosemont, Illinois. ACC is in Greensboro. PAC is in San Francisco. Big 12 is in Irving. Big East is in New York City. A10 is in Virginia.

It would make sense for the AAC HQ to be in either Memphis or Dallas. Orlando would be the third option.

Why does it matter? Is the AAC going to regularly meet in Providence for track and field or cheerleading? I would almost exaggerate and say that it could be based anywhere in the world but as long as it's in the continental US and east of the Rockies, it shouldn't be an issue for any member.

Location does matter. There is a reason Amazon isn't just drawing straws as it chooses it's second headquarters. Some places make more sense for business. For the AAC, sure, the headquarters may not matter for athletes, coaches, or fans, but it does matter for business. Maybe Texas or Dallas or Irving offers better tax incentives. Maybe the cost of living is lower and the league can pay employees less and thus save the league some money (I have no idea one way or the other what cost of living is more in Dallas or Providence.) Maybe administrators and AD's want to concentrate league business in one area, rather than having the league tournament in Fort Worth in 2020-2022 and then having to fly all the way to Rhode Island for meetings. Maybe a lot of this is about getting closer to a big airport with direct flights, getting closer to a larger number of members, getting close to other leagues' headquarters, and nearer to the CFP headquarters. My point is that there are a lot of reasons to be in Dallas.
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(02-28-2018 12:08 PM)McKinney Wrote:  Kind of OT, maybe a bad take, but if all these AAC members wanted to be with their CUSA friends and move the HQ to Dallas, why not just stay in CUSA? Lured by the idea of joining an AQ conference before BCS was officially over? I'm genuinely curious.

Simply put—The conference the first group of CUSA defectors joined bears little resemblance to the current AAC. Declining that invitation would have been crazy.
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(02-28-2018 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 12:08 PM)McKinney Wrote:  Kind of OT, maybe a bad take, but if all these AAC members wanted to be with their CUSA friends and move the HQ to Dallas, why not just stay in CUSA? Lured by the idea of joining an AQ conference before BCS was officially over? I'm genuinely curious.

Simply put—The conference the first group of CUSA defectors joined bears little resemblance to the current AAC. Declining that invitation would have been crazy.

Yea, but the current conference including Navy, WSU, Temple, UCONN, Cincy, and USF is a heck of a lot better than staying in CUSA 2.0
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(02-28-2018 04:10 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 10:50 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I know why the AAC is in Providence, but it is still bizarre that any conference would have a headquarters in a state that doesn't have a single university or program in it. It is literally forcing every other school to travel to a non-central location.

SEC is in Birmingham. B1G is in Rosemont, Illinois. ACC is in Greensboro. PAC is in San Francisco. Big 12 is in Irving. Big East is in New York City. A10 is in Virginia.

It would make sense for the AAC HQ to be in either Memphis or Dallas. Orlando would be the third option.

Why does it matter? Is the AAC going to regularly meet in Providence for track and field or cheerleading? I would almost exaggerate and say that it could be based anywhere in the world but as long as it's in the continental US and east of the Rockies, it shouldn't be an issue for any member.

That will move to Dallas too.
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(02-28-2018 04:32 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 04:10 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 10:50 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I know why the AAC is in Providence, but it is still bizarre that any conference would have a headquarters in a state that doesn't have a single university or program in it. It is literally forcing every other school to travel to a non-central location.

SEC is in Birmingham. B1G is in Rosemont, Illinois. ACC is in Greensboro. PAC is in San Francisco. Big 12 is in Irving. Big East is in New York City. A10 is in Virginia.

It would make sense for the AAC HQ to be in either Memphis or Dallas. Orlando would be the third option.

Why does it matter? Is the AAC going to regularly meet in Providence for track and field or cheerleading? I would almost exaggerate and say that it could be based anywhere in the world but as long as it's in the continental US and east of the Rockies, it shouldn't be an issue for any member.

Location does matter. There is a reason Amazon isn't just drawing straws as it chooses it's second headquarters. Some places make more sense for business. For the AAC, sure, the headquarters may not matter for athletes, coaches, or fans, but it does matter for business. Maybe Texas or Dallas or Irving offers better tax incentives. Maybe the cost of living is lower and the league can pay employees less and thus save the league some money (I have no idea one way or the other what cost of living is more in Dallas or Providence.) Maybe administrators and AD's want to concentrate league business in one area, rather than having the league tournament in Fort Worth in 2020-2022 and then having to fly all the way to Rhode Island for meetings. Maybe a lot of this is about getting closer to a big airport with direct flights, getting closer to a larger number of members, getting close to other leagues' headquarters, and nearer to the CFP headquarters. My point is that there are a lot of reasons to be in Dallas.

I disagree. Conferences are non-profits so taxes aren't an issue. The laws of some states may suit corporations better than others. Lots of companies used to incorporate in Delaware due to its favorable laws. Most states have evened the field in that area.

I just don't see schools going to the HQ for meetings. I see some conference calls, video conferencing and those "annual meetings" in some resort town they seem to have every 3 months. When the ACCT is in Greensboro, I imagine most do go by the HQ which is 1/2 mile away. Otherwise, I can't remember a time when all of the schools were there for anything.

I think you need a decent airport but it doesn't have to be a "major hub." Greensboro isn't a major hub but you can get flights to anywhere at reasonable prices.
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(02-28-2018 11:07 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 04:32 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 04:10 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 10:50 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I know why the AAC is in Providence, but it is still bizarre that any conference would have a headquarters in a state that doesn't have a single university or program in it. It is literally forcing every other school to travel to a non-central location.

SEC is in Birmingham. B1G is in Rosemont, Illinois. ACC is in Greensboro. PAC is in San Francisco. Big 12 is in Irving. Big East is in New York City. A10 is in Virginia.

It would make sense for the AAC HQ to be in either Memphis or Dallas. Orlando would be the third option.

Why does it matter? Is the AAC going to regularly meet in Providence for track and field or cheerleading? I would almost exaggerate and say that it could be based anywhere in the world but as long as it's in the continental US and east of the Rockies, it shouldn't be an issue for any member.

Location does matter. There is a reason Amazon isn't just drawing straws as it chooses it's second headquarters. Some places make more sense for business. For the AAC, sure, the headquarters may not matter for athletes, coaches, or fans, but it does matter for business. Maybe Texas or Dallas or Irving offers better tax incentives. Maybe the cost of living is lower and the league can pay employees less and thus save the league some money (I have no idea one way or the other what cost of living is more in Dallas or Providence.) Maybe administrators and AD's want to concentrate league business in one area, rather than having the league tournament in Fort Worth in 2020-2022 and then having to fly all the way to Rhode Island for meetings. Maybe a lot of this is about getting closer to a big airport with direct flights, getting closer to a larger number of members, getting close to other leagues' headquarters, and nearer to the CFP headquarters. My point is that there are a lot of reasons to be in Dallas.

I disagree. Conferences are non-profits so taxes aren't an issue. The laws of some states may suit corporations better than others. Lots of companies used to incorporate in Delaware due to its favorable laws. Most states have evened the field in that area.

I just don't see schools going to the HQ for meetings. I see some conference calls, video conferencing and those "annual meetings" in some resort town they seem to have every 3 months. When the ACCT is in Greensboro, I imagine most do go by the HQ which is 1/2 mile away. Otherwise, I can't remember a time when all of the schools were there for anything.

I think you need a decent airport but it doesn't have to be a "major hub." Greensboro isn't a major hub but you can get flights to anywhere at reasonable prices.

Spring meeting tends to be a resort site. Fall is usually at conference office along with conference office generally hosting the Senior Women's Administrators at least once a year, Compliance Directors at least once a year, and Faculty Athletic Advisors at least once year, a rules meeting for coaches and the coordinator of officials and media days for sports warranting one.
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(02-28-2018 06:07 PM)otown Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 05:21 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 12:08 PM)McKinney Wrote:  Kind of OT, maybe a bad take, but if all these AAC members wanted to be with their CUSA friends and move the HQ to Dallas, why not just stay in CUSA? Lured by the idea of joining an AQ conference before BCS was officially over? I'm genuinely curious.

Simply put—The conference the first group of CUSA defectors joined bears little resemblance to the current AAC. Declining that invitation would have been crazy.

Yea, but the current conference including Navy, WSU, Temple, UCONN, Cincy, and USF is a heck of a lot better than staying in CUSA 2.0

Of course. But a conference with those schools along with Boise, SDSU, Louisville, TCU, Rutgers, and the olypic sports programs for Notre Dame and the C7 would make the decision to jump even more obvious. 04-cheers
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(02-28-2018 11:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 11:07 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 04:32 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 04:10 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 10:50 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  I know why the AAC is in Providence, but it is still bizarre that any conference would have a headquarters in a state that doesn't have a single university or program in it. It is literally forcing every other school to travel to a non-central location.

SEC is in Birmingham. B1G is in Rosemont, Illinois. ACC is in Greensboro. PAC is in San Francisco. Big 12 is in Irving. Big East is in New York City. A10 is in Virginia.

It would make sense for the AAC HQ to be in either Memphis or Dallas. Orlando would be the third option.

Why does it matter? Is the AAC going to regularly meet in Providence for track and field or cheerleading? I would almost exaggerate and say that it could be based anywhere in the world but as long as it's in the continental US and east of the Rockies, it shouldn't be an issue for any member.

Location does matter. There is a reason Amazon isn't just drawing straws as it chooses it's second headquarters. Some places make more sense for business. For the AAC, sure, the headquarters may not matter for athletes, coaches, or fans, but it does matter for business. Maybe Texas or Dallas or Irving offers better tax incentives. Maybe the cost of living is lower and the league can pay employees less and thus save the league some money (I have no idea one way or the other what cost of living is more in Dallas or Providence.) Maybe administrators and AD's want to concentrate league business in one area, rather than having the league tournament in Fort Worth in 2020-2022 and then having to fly all the way to Rhode Island for meetings. Maybe a lot of this is about getting closer to a big airport with direct flights, getting closer to a larger number of members, getting close to other leagues' headquarters, and nearer to the CFP headquarters. My point is that there are a lot of reasons to be in Dallas.

I disagree. Conferences are non-profits so taxes aren't an issue. The laws of some states may suit corporations better than others. Lots of companies used to incorporate in Delaware due to its favorable laws. Most states have evened the field in that area.

I just don't see schools going to the HQ for meetings. I see some conference calls, video conferencing and those "annual meetings" in some resort town they seem to have every 3 months. When the ACCT is in Greensboro, I imagine most do go by the HQ which is 1/2 mile away. Otherwise, I can't remember a time when all of the schools were there for anything.

I think you need a decent airport but it doesn't have to be a "major hub." Greensboro isn't a major hub but you can get flights to anywhere at reasonable prices.

Spring meeting tends to be a resort site. Fall is usually at conference office along with conference office generally hosting the Senior Women's Administrators at least once a year, Compliance Directors at least once a year, and Faculty Athletic Advisors at least once year, a rules meeting for coaches and the coordinator of officials and media days for sports warranting one.

Of course the American still has the Lobster bake at Football Media days. That will change when the conference moves.
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(03-01-2018 01:00 AM)megadrone Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 11:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 11:07 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 04:32 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(02-28-2018 04:10 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Why does it matter? Is the AAC going to regularly meet in Providence for track and field or cheerleading? I would almost exaggerate and say that it could be based anywhere in the world but as long as it's in the continental US and east of the Rockies, it shouldn't be an issue for any member.

Location does matter. There is a reason Amazon isn't just drawing straws as it chooses it's second headquarters. Some places make more sense for business. For the AAC, sure, the headquarters may not matter for athletes, coaches, or fans, but it does matter for business. Maybe Texas or Dallas or Irving offers better tax incentives. Maybe the cost of living is lower and the league can pay employees less and thus save the league some money (I have no idea one way or the other what cost of living is more in Dallas or Providence.) Maybe administrators and AD's want to concentrate league business in one area, rather than having the league tournament in Fort Worth in 2020-2022 and then having to fly all the way to Rhode Island for meetings. Maybe a lot of this is about getting closer to a big airport with direct flights, getting closer to a larger number of members, getting close to other leagues' headquarters, and nearer to the CFP headquarters. My point is that there are a lot of reasons to be in Dallas.

I disagree. Conferences are non-profits so taxes aren't an issue. The laws of some states may suit corporations better than others. Lots of companies used to incorporate in Delaware due to its favorable laws. Most states have evened the field in that area.

I just don't see schools going to the HQ for meetings. I see some conference calls, video conferencing and those "annual meetings" in some resort town they seem to have every 3 months. When the ACCT is in Greensboro, I imagine most do go by the HQ which is 1/2 mile away. Otherwise, I can't remember a time when all of the schools were there for anything.

I think you need a decent airport but it doesn't have to be a "major hub." Greensboro isn't a major hub but you can get flights to anywhere at reasonable prices.

Spring meeting tends to be a resort site. Fall is usually at conference office along with conference office generally hosting the Senior Women's Administrators at least once a year, Compliance Directors at least once a year, and Faculty Athletic Advisors at least once year, a rules meeting for coaches and the coordinator of officials and media days for sports warranting one.

Of course the American still has the Lobster bake at Football Media days. That will change when the conference moves.

Move to NOLA with the Sun Belt. Can have a crawfish boil.
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...y'all can move into the 'most likely soon to be available' SEC HQ in Birmingham... FREE... well, with the addition of a certain 14th member... ...Those UCF Knights need some DRAGONS to fight with... 03-lmfao04-rock
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