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Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
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Quote:Nikolas Cruz threatened classmates, posted photos of himself holding guns, made violent statements online and was repeatedly described to authorities as a potential “school shooter.”

His troubling behavior gave law enforcement plenty of opportunities to investigate and arrest him — and even take away his guns — long before he shot up Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland last week, according to interviews with former South Florida prosecutors and legal experts.


In recent years, South Florida police detectives have arrested a slew of young men in unrelated cases who exhibited similar, troubling behavior on a variety of charges. Cops took them seriously.

It never happened with Cruz.

“There’s no doubt there was a failure,” former Miami-Dade prosecutor Marshall Dore Louis said of how law enforcement handled tips about Cruz. “The idea that they were aware of it and could do nothing is absurd. ... We can’t let this happen again.”

Quote:The FBI did not act on two strong tips, one of which involved Cruz posting on the internet that he planned to become a “professional school shooter.” The Palm Beach Sheriff’s Office was told Cruz had “put [a] gun to others’ heads in the past.” The Florida Department of Children and Families ruled him stable despite clear evidence of self-harm. And officials at Stoneman Douglas High, where Cruz killed 17 people on Valentine’s Day, knew that he was cutting himself, threatening students and taking pictures with guns and that he may have “ingested gasoline ... in an attempt to commit suicide.”

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One key misstep in Cruz’s case came in February 2016, when a Broward deputy responded to a report that the teenager “planned to shoot up the school.” An Instagram photo of a “juvenile” with a gun prompted the tip, according to a time line released by BSO on Thursday.

A Broward deputy determined that Cruz “possessed knives and a BB gun.” But the information was not forwarded to a detective bureau or Broward’s Intelligence Unit, which routinely monitors possible violent offenders who post online.

Rather, the information was sent to Stoneman Douglas’ school resource officer, who is also a BSO deputy. Nothing happened.

BSO, on its Twitter account on Friday, said none of its interactions with Cruz “appeared arrestable under Florida law.”

“The standard isn’t whether that information itself was ‘arrestable’ but whether law enforcement had an obligation to investigate a violation of the law,” said John Priovolos, a former Miami prosecutor. “A detective should have been assigned. Subpoenas should have been sent to Instagram to locate the IP address and verify it was Cruz.

“Cruz could have been arrested — maybe he would have been diverted to a mental-health court, but he would have been under some sort of supervision.”

Even if a case couldn’t have been made, the teen might have been placed squarely on the radar of police analysts who monitor potentially dangerous people who post online, Priovolos said.

“At the very least, the most capable intelligence detectives should have been monitoring him,” Priovolos said.

Quote:Israel continues to defend his department.

In an interview with the Herald Friday, he pointed out that BSO’s Internal Affairs department is only investigating two of the tips it received concerning Cruz.

“In 90 percent [of the cases], we found no wrongdoing,” Israel said. “We did what we needed to do.”

But South Florida law enforcement already seems to be handling similar cases in a different manner.

On Friday, Miami-Dade Schools police arrested Krop High senior Sean Mesa for posting photos of himself with guns on social media. Improper display of a firearm is a misdemeanor in Florida. In addition, investigators said they found child pornography on his phone.

“The latest Snapchat photos have students and staff at Dr. Michael Krop Senior High alarmed and afraid,” an arrest warrant stated.

Quote:In 2016, officials at Stoneman Douglas were told Cruz was violently and repeatedly threatening several classmates, according to a report in Buzzfeed News. Shortly after Cruz and his girlfriend broke up, he began sending messages to her friends on Instagram, blaming them for his romantic woes and threatening to kill them.

“I’m going to get you and I’m going to kill you because you took this person away from me. I’m going to kill your family,” he said to Dana Craig, a one-time friend, in messages described to Buzzfeed.

Craig told Buzzfeed she reported the incident in writing to school security.

Then Cruz’s ex began dating another student, Enea Sabadini. Cruz threatened Sabadini on several occasions in 2016 and 2017, calling him racial slurs and saying, “I have guns ... I will kill you,” as well as sending a photo of at least six weapons laid out on his bed. Sabadini also reported Cruz’s threats to the school, according to Buzzfeed.

Quote:Cruz’s threats to the teens could constitute aggravated cyberstalking, a felony, said Louis, the former Miami-Dade prosecutor. They could also violate state law against issuing written threats to kill.

“You have no right to say to somebody, ‘I’m going to kill you,’ ” Louis said.

Richard Della Fera, a Miami defense attorney, agreed. And he said the lack of investigation into what was clearly a crime was troubling.

“If law enforcement saw the messages and could identify the person who was sending them, the ball got dropped when the investigation didn’t go any further,” said Della Fera, who has handled high-profile cases of people accused of posting violent material online.

Most important: Being charged with aggravated cyberstalking could have prevented Cruz from possessing the weapon he used to kill 17 people.

A condition of bond for felony stalking charges in Broward is the surrender of all firearms.

“He would be required to surrender any firearms that he had,” Della Fera said. “He wouldn’t have had the firearm.”

And had he been convicted, Cruz’s status as a registered felon would have further impeded his ability to purchase weapons under Florida law.

Quote:Cruz could also have been charged federally.

In September, he wrote “I’m going to be a professional school shooter” on a YouTube channel. The comment would have been enough to charge Cruz with a threat of terrorism, a felony, according to an official in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Miami.

The comment was reported to the FBI. But a lackluster investigation did not identify Cruz as its author.

Federal agents also never followed up on a tip saying Cruz might “get into a school and just shoot the place up.” The tip was made to an FBI call center in January.

“I know he’s — he’s going to explode,” an unidentified caller told the FBI, according to a transcript first reported Friday by the Wall Street Journal.

Quote:In the past, even when the evidence isn’t overwhelming, police have made cases against loner types who might snap.

That’s what Miami-Dade Police’s Homeland Security Bureau did two years ago when it arrested Enrique Dominguez, who was posting disturbing images of himself dressed like the Joker, posing with combat-style knives.

His co-workers reported he pledged “allegiance to Allah,” showed them ISIS execution videos and vowed to dress like the comic-book villain Joker before gunning down co-workers, according to a police report.

Dominguez was arrested on charges of aggravated assault. While Dominguez did not wind up spending significant time in jail, he got probation — with the threat of a judge sending him to prison if he didn’t stay out of trouble.

“Even if there is not enough evidence at the time, you never know what further investigation will reveal,” said Penny Brill, the recently retired head of the legal bureau at the Miami-Dade State Attorney’s Office. “All of these threats should be investigated. You can’t take them as jokes. You can’t do that anymore.”
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Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
Amazing.

Again, failures at ALL levels, and it just keeps getting worse by the day.

Yet, it’s the NRA’s fault.

Trust us, we’re with the government, we’ll protect you...

When does professional dooosh Israel tender?


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RE: Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
(02-27-2018 11:45 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Amazing.

Again, failures at ALL levels, and it just keeps getting worse by the day.

Yet, it’s the NRA’s fault.

Trust us, we’re with the government, we’ll protect you...

When does professional dooosh Israel tender?


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Like I said in another thread, if he were an honorable man and a true leader he would have already resigned.
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RE: Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
Trust the government. They are here to help.
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RE: Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
Government has an epic failure and we are supposed to lose our freedoms, no thanks.
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RE: Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
(02-27-2018 11:46 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 11:45 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Amazing.

Again, failures at ALL levels, and it just keeps getting worse by the day.

Yet, it’s the NRA’s fault.

Trust us, we’re with the government, we’ll protect you...

When does professional dooosh Israel tender?


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Like I said in another thread, if he were an honorable man and a true leader he would have already resigned.

He's a democrat.
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RE: Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
(02-27-2018 12:05 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 11:46 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 11:45 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Amazing.

Again, failures at ALL levels, and it just keeps getting worse by the day.

Yet, it’s the NRA’s fault.

Trust us, we’re with the government, we’ll protect you...

When does professional dooosh Israel tender?


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Like I said in another thread, if he were an honorable man and a true leader he would have already resigned.

He's a democrat.

While I agree that's part of the problem I know of several Sheriffs here in SC who are Democrats and are true leaders and honorable men.
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RE: Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
(02-27-2018 12:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 12:05 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 11:46 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 11:45 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Amazing.

Again, failures at ALL levels, and it just keeps getting worse by the day.

Yet, it’s the NRA’s fault.

Trust us, we’re with the government, we’ll protect you...

When does professional dooosh Israel tender?


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Like I said in another thread, if he were an honorable man and a true leader he would have already resigned.

He's a democrat.

While I agree that's part of the problem I know of several Sheriffs here in SC who are Democrats and are true leaders and honorable men.

They're really conservative pubs and just don't know it yet.....especially if they're honorable.
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RE: Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
It's so obvious now. The weaponized freakout on the NRA was a diversion to cover for the democratic-operative sheriff.

Like the Coral Springs PD said though, "..the truth will come out in time."
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RE: Miami area LE experts: There was a failure of law enforcement in Parkland shooting
Yep...the government and law enforcement failed big time here. So what's the right wing solution? Arm government funded teachers.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?
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(02-27-2018 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yep...the government and law enforcement failed big time here. So what's the right wing solution? Arm government funded teachers.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?

And yet, it's no worse than creating more gun laws that aren't going to be enforced.
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(02-27-2018 12:02 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Government has an epic failure and we are supposed to lose our freedoms, no thanks.


And even the clown, supposedly “in charge”, stood there and basically screamed at Loesch for being a PR spokesperson for a lobbying group.

Another chickenshit coward.
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(02-27-2018 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yep...the government and law enforcement failed big time here. So what's the right wing solution? Arm government funded teachers.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?

Using that logic, why are they trusted to teach our kids? Oh wait, you're actually on to something. Nevermind.
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(02-27-2018 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yep...the government and law enforcement failed big time here. So what's the right wing solution? Arm government funded teachers.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?

So, the government and law enforcement failed here, and the left wing solution is to give them even more power and responsibility, while not allowing the vast majority of people the opportunity for self-protection.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?
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(02-27-2018 12:23 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yep...the government and law enforcement failed big time here. So what's the right wing solution? Arm government funded teachers.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?

Using that logic, why are they trusted to teach our kids? Oh wait, you're actually on to something. Nevermind.

I'm glad you stopped and went with some snark...lest you'd sound completely idiotic. They're trusted because they're trained over years...and at a personal cost of well over $100,000.
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(02-27-2018 12:27 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
(02-27-2018 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yep...the government and law enforcement failed big time here. So what's the right wing solution? Arm government funded teachers.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?

So, the government and law enforcement failed here, and the left wing solution is to give them even more power and responsibility, while not allowing the vast majority of people the opportunity for self-protection.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?

So what...you want to arm the kids now too? The solution is never more guns.
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(02-27-2018 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yep...the government and law enforcement failed big time here. So what's the right wing solution? Arm government funded teachers.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?

Tom. I'm not sure there is a right solution. I'm against arming all if any teachers. I fear you'll have one use it as a power thing against kids or a kid seeking attention will claim a teacher pulled a gun on them.

I don't think more gun laws will help. If there was ever an argument for that it's this case, with all the oversight.

Raising the age to buy a gun may work but it's not an end all solution.

Banning the NRA is not gonna happen.

If anyone is going to be armed I'd prefer it to be someone that's had proper training and only the schools principal and superintendent know. Not necessarily a teacher.
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(02-27-2018 12:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Yep...the government and law enforcement failed big time here. So what's the right wing solution? Arm government funded teachers.

Do you still not see how awful of an idea that is?

It's actually a good idea, though I prefer a combination of both teachers and armed security personnel.

Would be school shooters won't want to go into a situation where they know that each adult they encounter could in theory be someone that will fire back in their direction.
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Then again, with the alt-left it's not about solving the problem, it's about winning political points and the moral preening that comes with banning guns that they don't like.
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(02-27-2018 12:58 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Then again, with the alt-left it's not about solving the problem, it's about the winning political points and the moral preening that comes with banning guns that they don't like.

Specific to firearms, the left is like "Pick whichever side you want on this issue I'll pick the opposite and we can fight in the comments let's go"
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