(02-28-2018 10:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nepotism

This room would be screaming bloody murder for 1/100th of the stuff that Trump is doing.

John F. Kennedy President
Robert F. Kennedy Attorney General

(02-28-2018 12:25 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Article says Jared and Ivanka were the source of many leaks. Sound credible to you guys?

No. Not at all.

I think Bannon and Priebus were. But mostly I think it is Obama era holdovers.

(02-28-2018 12:47 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:25 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Article says Jared and Ivanka were the source of many leaks. Sound credible to you guys?

From the “Daily Beast”? Most likely not.
But that has been speculated on since the first days with leaking on Priebus, Bannon etc., inside baseball, stuff so who knows.

I’m more concerned with the more than one a day top secret or classified leaks that came from the alphabet soup agencies. People need some jailing over that.

Yeah, including unmasking of Trump officals by Susan Rice.

Are you STILL promoting this falsehood? Rice can only ask for a redacted name to be given to her. And she must provide evidence as to why it's needed. Then the IC does the unmasking. She would not know who the person even is to even determine whether they were a trump official! We covered this months ago.

(02-28-2018 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:47 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:25 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Article says Jared and Ivanka were the source of many leaks. Sound credible to you guys?

From the “Daily Beast”? Most likely not.
But that has been speculated on since the first days with leaking on Priebus, Bannon etc., inside baseball, stuff so who knows.

I’m more concerned with the more than one a day top secret or classified leaks that came from the alphabet soup agencies. People need some jailing over that.

Yeah, including unmasking of Trump officals by Susan Rice.

Are you STILL promoting this falsehood? Rice can only ask for a redacted name to be given to her. And she must provide evidence as to why it's needed. Then the IC does the unmasking. She would not know who the person even is to even determine whether they were a trump official! We covered this months ago.

And then she passes the name along to Ben Rhodes and others so it can be leaked to the press. It's not a falsehood. She asked for lots of names and those names later made there way to the MSM.

(02-28-2018 03:06 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:47 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:25 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Article says Jared and Ivanka were the source of many leaks. Sound credible to you guys?

From the “Daily Beast”? Most likely not.
But that has been speculated on since the first days with leaking on Priebus, Bannon etc., inside baseball, stuff so who knows.

I’m more concerned with the more than one a day top secret or classified leaks that came from the alphabet soup agencies. People need some jailing over that.

Yeah, including unmasking of Trump officals by Susan Rice.

Are you STILL promoting this falsehood? Rice can only ask for a redacted name to be given to her. And she must provide evidence as to why it's needed. Then the IC does the unmasking. She would not know who the person even is to even determine whether they were a trump official! We covered this months ago.

And then she passes the name along to Ben Rhodes and others so it can be leaked to the press. It's not a falsehood. She asked for lots of names and those names later made there way to the MSM.

Of course you have a credible source for this, right?

(02-28-2018 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:06 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:47 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  From the “Daily Beast”? Most likely not.
But that has been speculated on since the first days with leaking on Priebus, Bannon etc., inside baseball, stuff so who knows.

I’m more concerned with the more than one a day top secret or classified leaks that came from the alphabet soup agencies. People need some jailing over that.

Yeah, including unmasking of Trump officals by Susan Rice.

Are you STILL promoting this falsehood? Rice can only ask for a redacted name to be given to her. And she must provide evidence as to why it's needed. Then the IC does the unmasking. She would not know who the person even is to even determine whether they were a trump official! We covered this months ago.

And then she passes the name along to Ben Rhodes and others so it can be leaked to the press. It's not a falsehood. She asked for lots of names and those names later made there way to the MSM.

Of course you have a credible source for this, right?

I'm expressing my opinion. Have you now backed off of your claim that Susan Rice unmasked the names of Trump officials?

(02-28-2018 03:15 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:06 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:47 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  Yeah, including unmasking of Trump officals by Susan Rice.

Are you STILL promoting this falsehood? Rice can only ask for a redacted name to be given to her. And she must provide evidence as to why it's needed. Then the IC does the unmasking. She would not know who the person even is to even determine whether they were a trump official! We covered this months ago.

And then she passes the name along to Ben Rhodes and others so it can be leaked to the press. It's not a falsehood. She asked for lots of names and those names later made there way to the MSM.

Of course you have a credible source for this, right?

I'm expressing my opinion. Have you now backed off of your claim that Susan Rice unmasked the names of Trump officials?

A G A I N. The IC unmasks people. Not Rice. She can only ask for an unnamed person in a report to be unmasked if she provides credible evidence that it's necessary. If a trump official was unmasked it was because the IC felt they needed to be.

(02-28-2018 03:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:15 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:06 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Are you STILL promoting this falsehood? Rice can only ask for a redacted name to be given to her. And she must provide evidence as to why it's needed. Then the IC does the unmasking. She would not know who the person even is to even determine whether they were a trump official! We covered this months ago.

And then she passes the name along to Ben Rhodes and others so it can be leaked to the press. It's not a falsehood. She asked for lots of names and those names later made there way to the MSM.

Of course you have a credible source for this, right?

I'm expressing my opinion. Have you now backed off of your claim that Susan Rice unmasked the names of Trump officials?

A G A I N. The IC unmasks people. Not Rice. She can only ask for an unnamed person in a report to be unmasked if she provides credible evidence that it's necessary. If a trump official was unmasked it was because the IC felt they needed to be.

She asked for the unmasking dimwit. The names don't unmask themselves if no one asks. As best we know, Susan Rice was the one unmasking the names of Trump officials during the transition. She's admitted it. Why can't you accept her word?

You're trying to pull one of those.....Trump was lying when he said Obama wiretapped him.....Obama never went to Trump tower to place wire taps.

(02-28-2018 03:31 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:15 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:06 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  And then she passes the name along to Ben Rhodes and others so it can be leaked to the press. It's not a falsehood. She asked for lots of names and those names later made there way to the MSM.

Of course you have a credible source for this, right?

I'm expressing my opinion. Have you now backed off of your claim that Susan Rice unmasked the names of Trump officials?

A G A I N. The IC unmasks people. Not Rice. She can only ask for an unnamed person in a report to be unmasked if she provides credible evidence that it's necessary. If a trump official was unmasked it was because the IC felt they needed to be.

She asked for the unmasking dimwit. The names don't unmask themselves if no one asks. As best we know, Susan Rice was the one unmasking the names of Trump officials during the transition. She's admitted it. Why can't you accept her word?

You're trying to pull one of those.....Trump was lying when he said Obama wiretapped him.....Obama never went to Trump tower to place wire taps.

EYE KNOW!!!! But she doesn't know who the person is. Nor does she get too approve if the name is actually unmasked. She wasn't a freaking White House page! She had every right to request what she did. If she was out of bounds, it's up to the IC to deny her request.

And on the TT NO ONE wiretapped TT in any way shape or form! Don't believe me, trumps own Justice Department said so.

(02-28-2018 03:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:31 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:15 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Of course you have a credible source for this, right?

I'm expressing my opinion. Have you now backed off of your claim that Susan Rice unmasked the names of Trump officials?

A G A I N. The IC unmasks people. Not Rice. She can only ask for an unnamed person in a report to be unmasked if she provides credible evidence that it's necessary. If a trump official was unmasked it was because the IC felt they needed to be.

She asked for the unmasking dimwit. The names don't unmask themselves if no one asks. As best we know, Susan Rice was the one unmasking the names of Trump officials during the transition. She's admitted it. Why can't you accept her word?

You're trying to pull one of those.....Trump was lying when he said Obama wiretapped him.....Obama never went to Trump tower to place wire taps.

EYE KNOW!!!! But she doesn't know who the person is. Nor does she get too approve if the name is actually unmasked. She wasn't a freaking White House page! She had every right to request what she did. If she was out of bounds, it's up to the IC to deny her request.

And on the TT NO ONE wiretapped TT in any way shape or form! Don't believe me, trumps own Justice Department said so.

Did I claim Rice didn't have a right to ask for the unmaskings? Did I say she was out of bounds to ask? No, my problem is that she was busy asking for names to be unmasked and then those names were later turning up in the MSM. That's my problem.

I believe her intent had nothing to do with protecting the nation and everything to do with farkin' around with the Trump campaign and later the incoming Trump administration.

"Trump's Justice Department" also says it didn't abuse FISA warrant power. Many would disagree with that, no?

(02-28-2018 01:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 10:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Nepotism

This room would be screaming bloody murder for 1/100th of the stuff that Trump is doing.

John F. Kennedy President
Robert F. Kennedy Attorney General

If I remember correctly, that's why the law against nepotism in the WH came about.

(02-28-2018 11:36 AM)VA49er Wrote:   This is an actual article up on CNN...

"Jared Kushner's fall from Secretary of Everything to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "

(02-28-2018 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:47 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 12:25 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Article says Jared and Ivanka were the source of many leaks. Sound credible to you guys?

From the “Daily Beast”? Most likely not.
But that has been speculated on since the first days with leaking on Priebus, Bannon etc., inside baseball, stuff so who knows.

I’m more concerned with the more than one a day top secret or classified leaks that came from the alphabet soup agencies. People need some jailing over that.

Yeah, including unmasking of Trump officals by Susan Rice.

Are you STILL promoting this falsehood? Rice can only ask for a redacted name to be given to her. And she must provide evidence as to why it's needed. Then the IC does the unmasking. She would not know who the person even is to even determine whether they were a trump official! We covered this months ago.

So what difference does it make if she doesn’t know as long as her request inform who she wants to know. What reason would she have otherwise? And why would she testify some of the signatures weren’t hers?
The blind eye the left turns to this is truely concerning.

(02-28-2018 03:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:31 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:15 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Of course you have a credible source for this, right?

I'm expressing my opinion. Have you now backed off of your claim that Susan Rice unmasked the names of Trump officials?

A G A I N. The IC unmasks people. Not Rice. She can only ask for an unnamed person in a report to be unmasked if she provides credible evidence that it's necessary. If a trump official was unmasked it was because the IC felt they needed to be.

She asked for the unmasking dimwit. The names don't unmask themselves if no one asks. As best we know, Susan Rice was the one unmasking the names of Trump officials during the transition. She's admitted it. Why can't you accept her word?

You're trying to pull one of those.....Trump was lying when he said Obama wiretapped him.....Obama never went to Trump tower to place wire taps.

EYE KNOW!!!! But she doesn't know who the person is. Nor does she get too approve if the name is actually unmasked. She wasn't a freaking White House page! She had every right to request what she did. If she was out of bounds, it's up to the IC to deny her request.

And on the TT NO ONE wiretapped TT in any way shape or form! Don't believe me, trumps own Justice Department said so.

You keep saying “IC”. Exactly who is this IC you keep bringing up? Clapper? Brennen? Comey? Lynch? Or even Strzok?

(02-28-2018 04:14 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:31 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:15 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  I'm expressing my opinion. Have you now backed off of your claim that Susan Rice unmasked the names of Trump officials?

A G A I N. The IC unmasks people. Not Rice. She can only ask for an unnamed person in a report to be unmasked if she provides credible evidence that it's necessary. If a trump official was unmasked it was because the IC felt they needed to be.

She asked for the unmasking dimwit. The names don't unmask themselves if no one asks. As best we know, Susan Rice was the one unmasking the names of Trump officials during the transition. She's admitted it. Why can't you accept her word?

You're trying to pull one of those.....Trump was lying when he said Obama wiretapped him.....Obama never went to Trump tower to place wire taps.

EYE KNOW!!!! But she doesn't know who the person is. Nor does she get too approve if the name is actually unmasked. She wasn't a freaking White House page! She had every right to request what she did. If she was out of bounds, it's up to the IC to deny her request.

And on the TT NO ONE wiretapped TT in any way shape or form! Don't believe me, trumps own Justice Department said so.

Did I claim Rice didn't have a right to ask for the unmaskings? Did I say she was out of bounds to ask? No, my problem is that she was busy asking for names to be unmasked and then those names were later turning up in the MSM. That's my problem.

I believe her intent had nothing to do with protecting the nation and everything to do with farkin' around with the Trump campaign and later the incoming Trump administration.

Right, and the leaker needs found and prosecuted. Just stop claiming it was Rice doing the leaking without a shred of evidence, and we're good.

And regardless of what you believe, the IC believed Rice. And judging by what we've seen so far with Flynn, Manafort, Page, Junior, et. al., they were right.

(03-01-2018 09:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 04:14 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:31 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(02-28-2018 03:23 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  A G A I N. The IC unmasks people. Not Rice. She can only ask for an unnamed person in a report to be unmasked if she provides credible evidence that it's necessary. If a trump official was unmasked it was because the IC felt they needed to be.

She asked for the unmasking dimwit. The names don't unmask themselves if no one asks. As best we know, Susan Rice was the one unmasking the names of Trump officials during the transition. She's admitted it. Why can't you accept her word?

You're trying to pull one of those.....Trump was lying when he said Obama wiretapped him.....Obama never went to Trump tower to place wire taps.

EYE KNOW!!!! But she doesn't know who the person is. Nor does she get too approve if the name is actually unmasked. She wasn't a freaking White House page! She had every right to request what she did. If she was out of bounds, it's up to the IC to deny her request.

And on the TT NO ONE wiretapped TT in any way shape or form! Don't believe me, trumps own Justice Department said so.

Did I claim Rice didn't have a right to ask for the unmaskings? Did I say she was out of bounds to ask? No, my problem is that she was busy asking for names to be unmasked and then those names were later turning up in the MSM. That's my problem.

I believe her intent had nothing to do with protecting the nation and everything to do with farkin' around with the Trump campaign and later the incoming Trump administration.

Right, and the leaker needs found and prosecuted. Just stop claiming it was Rice doing the leaking without a shred of evidence, and we're good.

And regardless of what you believe, the IC believed Rice. And judging by what we've seen so far with Flynn, Manafort, Page, Junior, et. al., they were right.

I'm entitled to my opinion, no? Susan Rice was doing the unmasking, and the names were later released to the MSM. Again, I believe her intentions (via her boss) had little to do with national security and almost everything to do with harming a political opponent.

So, in my mind she's guilty. Much like I could make the claim that I'm really good at keeping secrets. It's the people I tell them to that can't be trusted.

i'm fanning myself from how witty that article was