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Boy that is gonna look foolish when Ollie wins a National Title ...
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I remember a bunch of people on here a few weeks ago saying Gary Clark wouldn't win POY because he didn't have the stats. Maybe that would be true if the media voted on these awards, but coaches know who they have to game plan for and who is most valuable to their team. Couldn't happen to a better person either... congrats, Gary!
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WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.
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(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:38 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  [Image: DXqIgwcX0AQ5Y8q.jpg]

WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.


The bad thing is; if they hire a coach he doesn't like and the NCAA's changes the transfer rules regarding fired coaches, does he look to move on from ECU?
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Can't argue with any of these results. Congrats to Clark he's been a beast for Cincy and a pain in everyone else's arse. Nice to see Sampson get some recognition.
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(03-07-2018 11:15 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:38 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  [Image: DXqIgwcX0AQ5Y8q.jpg]

WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.


The bad thing is; if they hire a coach he doesn't like and the NCAA's changes the transfer rules regarding fired coaches, does he look to move on from ECU?

I don't think that's an option. Lebo resigned, he wasn't fired, and Williams is already enrolled at ECU. Perhaps I'm not versed on all the changes, but I thought it applied to recruits, not players on the current roster.
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(03-07-2018 11:20 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:15 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:38 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  [Image: DXqIgwcX0AQ5Y8q.jpg]

WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.


The bad thing is; if they hire a coach he doesn't like and the NCAA's changes the transfer rules regarding fired coaches, does he look to move on from ECU?

I don't think that's an option. Lebo resigned, he wasn't fired, and Williams is already enrolled at ECU. Perhaps I'm not versed on all the changes, but I thought it applied to recruits, not players on the current roster.

I think he's referring to the transfer rule changes that are being considered by the NCAA. Kids would be able to transfer with out sitting out at least once if I understand correctly.
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Gary Clark is the man! As exemplary of a 4-year scholar athlete that you'll find in college basketball.

I have to say the AAC absolutely nailed the awards this year.
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Boom. Deserved it.
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(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:38 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  [Image: DXqIgwcX0AQ5Y8q.jpg]

WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.

their 300 rpi is self imposed..their schedule is that bad.. they win enough conference games to be top 200 every year but they schedule so horribly every year
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(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:38 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  [Image: DXqIgwcX0AQ5Y8q.jpg]

WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.

their 300 rpi is self imposed..their schedule is that bad.. they win enough conference games to be top 200 every year but they schedule so horribly every year

I mean, if your trying to build a winning culture, sometimes you have to schedule extremely horrible.


Houston in the 2015-16 season won 22 games but had a Kenpom SOS in the NON con of #350. Only 2 teams were worse. Then last year Houston had a Non Con SOS of #250 and this year its #246.

When they can start going undefeated or or 10-2 in their ****** non league schedule, then you work on upping the competition. But you need to build confidence and build a winning culture. Sometimes you do that on the backs of the worst teams in basketball.
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(03-07-2018 01:36 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:38 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  [Image: DXqIgwcX0AQ5Y8q.jpg]

WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.

their 300 rpi is self imposed..their schedule is that bad.. they win enough conference games to be top 200 every year but they schedule so horribly every year

I mean, if your trying to build a winning culture, sometimes you have to schedule extremely horrible.


Houston in the 2015-16 season won 22 games but had a Kenpom SOS in the NON con of #350. Only 2 teams were worse. Then last year Houston had a Non Con SOS of #250 and this year its #246.

When they can start going undefeated or or 10-2 in their ****** non league schedule, then you work on upping the competition. But you need to build confidence and build a winning culture. Sometimes you do that on the backs of the worst teams in basketball.

So when I can count on Cincy upping the schedule?
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(03-07-2018 01:44 PM)AndShock Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 01:36 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.

their 300 rpi is self imposed..their schedule is that bad.. they win enough conference games to be top 200 every year but they schedule so horribly every year

I mean, if your trying to build a winning culture, sometimes you have to schedule extremely horrible.


Houston in the 2015-16 season won 22 games but had a Kenpom SOS in the NON con of #350. Only 2 teams were worse. Then last year Houston had a Non Con SOS of #250 and this year its #246.

When they can start going undefeated or or 10-2 in their ****** non league schedule, then you work on upping the competition. But you need to build confidence and build a winning culture. Sometimes you do that on the backs of the worst teams in basketball.

So when I can count on Cincy upping the schedule?

UC normally schedules tougher. Supposedly this year was poor because of limited dates due to using NKU's arena.

Next year they have at least Ohio State, Xavier, UCLA, and Mississippi State out of conference that I am aware of.
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(03-07-2018 01:44 PM)AndShock Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 01:36 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.

their 300 rpi is self imposed..their schedule is that bad.. they win enough conference games to be top 200 every year but they schedule so horribly every year

I mean, if your trying to build a winning culture, sometimes you have to schedule extremely horrible.


Houston in the 2015-16 season won 22 games but had a Kenpom SOS in the NON con of #350. Only 2 teams were worse. Then last year Houston had a Non Con SOS of #250 and this year its #246.

When they can start going undefeated or or 10-2 in their ****** non league schedule, then you work on upping the competition. But you need to build confidence and build a winning culture. Sometimes you do that on the backs of the worst teams in basketball.

So when I can count on Cincy upping the schedule?


UC plays OHio state, ucla, @miss state and Xavier next year.

And a tourney in Florida that includes power 5 teams.

But fact is; UC cant afford high level buy games at home but they have zero fear in playing against high level teams


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(03-07-2018 01:49 PM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 01:44 PM)AndShock Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 01:36 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.

their 300 rpi is self imposed..their schedule is that bad.. they win enough conference games to be top 200 every year but they schedule so horribly every year

I mean, if your trying to build a winning culture, sometimes you have to schedule extremely horrible.


Houston in the 2015-16 season won 22 games but had a Kenpom SOS in the NON con of #350. Only 2 teams were worse. Then last year Houston had a Non Con SOS of #250 and this year its #246.

When they can start going undefeated or or 10-2 in their ****** non league schedule, then you work on upping the competition. But you need to build confidence and build a winning culture. Sometimes you do that on the backs of the worst teams in basketball.

So when I can count on Cincy upping the schedule?

UC normally schedules tougher. Supposedly this year was poor because of limited dates due to using NKU's arena.

Next year they have at least Ohio State, Xavier, UCLA, and Mississippi State out of conference that I am aware of.


Yep.

The BB&T arena thing even affected non conference scheduling. UC had to finish with 2 road games and had to ruin 2 senior nights.

The last week of the season, BB&T was already booked with the 9th region high school tourney.


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(03-07-2018 01:36 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:38 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  [Image: DXqIgwcX0AQ5Y8q.jpg]

WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.

their 300 rpi is self imposed..their schedule is that bad.. they win enough conference games to be top 200 every year but they schedule so horribly every year

I mean, if your trying to build a winning culture, sometimes you have to schedule extremely horrible.


Houston in the 2015-16 season won 22 games but had a Kenpom SOS in the NON con of #350. Only 2 teams were worse. Then last year Houston had a Non Con SOS of #250 and this year its #246.

When they can start going undefeated or or 10-2 in their ****** non league schedule, then you work on upping the competition. But you need to build confidence and build a winning culture. Sometimes you do that on the backs of the worst teams in basketball.

you are always all numbers ..
houston 15 schedule was bad but thats because Georgetown backed out, no one would invite us to a good preseason tourney and our projected great games were flops (lsu with ben simmons and the otther 5 star was supposed to be amazing when it was scheduled)

last year we had lsu, arkansas, harvard, vermont..if we had been invited to a respectable preseason tourney, our schedule last year would have been good

you are mixing up our situation with ecu's ..houston has a hard time scheduling anyone, even this season we got a barely passable tournament .. sampson publicly says he has been trying to improve the schedule but its been difficult

ecu purposely had horrific schedules...the had 1 p5 who was horrifc....they had 1 decent rpi game in radford who was horrible last year, that lucked into being decent this year...they intentionally scheduled a bunch of games with all 300 rpi teams who have no chance of being good

houston schedules teams like lsu/rhode island/st louis. who are projected good but turn out horrible and for some reason cant get an invite to a good preseason tourney (likely attendance)
dont act like we were purposely building trash schedules...something ecu tries to do..there are better buy games than what they do

but to your point i agree to an extent, but within a range, you schedule to your talent but you never over schedule or under schedule..no matter how bad it is it shouldnt go below a certain point, and should be harder than a certain point
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(03-07-2018 02:24 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 01:36 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.

their 300 rpi is self imposed..their schedule is that bad.. they win enough conference games to be top 200 every year but they schedule so horribly every year

I mean, if your trying to build a winning culture, sometimes you have to schedule extremely horrible.


Houston in the 2015-16 season won 22 games but had a Kenpom SOS in the NON con of #350. Only 2 teams were worse. Then last year Houston had a Non Con SOS of #250 and this year its #246.

When they can start going undefeated or or 10-2 in their ****** non league schedule, then you work on upping the competition. But you need to build confidence and build a winning culture. Sometimes you do that on the backs of the worst teams in basketball.

you are always all numbers ..
houston 15 schedule was bad but thats because Georgetown backed out, no one would invite us to a good preseason tourney and our projected great games were flops (lsu with ben simmons and the otther 5 star was supposed to be amazing when it was scheduled)

last year we had lsu, arkansas, harvard, vermont..if we had been invited to a respectable preseason tourney, our schedule last year would have been good

you are mixing up our situation with ecu's ..houston has a hard time scheduling anyone, even this season we got a barely passable tournament .. sampson publicly says he has been trying to improve the schedule but its been difficult

ecu purposely had horrific schedules...the had 1 p5 who was horrifc....they had 1 decent rpi game in radford who was horrible last year, that lucked into being decent this year...they intentionally scheduled a bunch of games with all 300 rpi teams who have no chance of being good

houston schedules teams like lsu/rhode island/st louis. who are projected good but turn out horrible and for some reason cant get an invite to a good preseason tourney (likely attendance)
dont act like we were purposely building trash schedules...something ecu tries to do..there are better buy games than what they do

but to your point i agree to an extent, but within a range, you schedule to your talent but you never over schedule or under schedule..no matter how bad it is it shouldnt go below a certain point, and should be harder than a certain point

But.

Scheduling decent home games isn't cheap. Zero P5 schools will give ECU a Home & Home, So their option is to buy home games and the best buy games go to the highest bidder. ECU doesn't have the money to complete with that.

The other option is to be a buy game for P5 schools. But those also really kills your brand and also gives you very little chance of winning. And they wouldn't even get paid all that much to do it since they don't help out the opponents RPI.

They are in a really ****** spot. Its why being at the bottom is hard to dig out of.

Which is why you schedule really ****** schools, rattled off a few 20 win seasons, hopefully sell more tickets and then maybe be a viable option for mid major H&H's and maybe a afford a few high level buy games.


In terms of houston, they still need to schedule better buy games if money allows. If you add 4 good games, its incredible easy to offset them with bad bad buy games (250+). UC had the same problem this year, they couldn't get high level buy games because the temporary arena it really hurt their SOS even though they play @Xavier, @UCLA, Miss State and Florida, as well as Buffalo.


what is Houston's plan for the new Arena? do they have any high level opponents coming into open it up? I know UC kicks off the very first game of the year with OSU. And purposely scheduled all their home and homes so the return game would fall on the new arena at home. The arkansas and LSU Home and Home's are done right?

Hopefully them upping their profile this year will get them a big Home and Home series
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(03-07-2018 02:24 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 01:36 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:05 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  WELL DESERVED!

04-bow 04-bow 04-bow 04-bow

Excited about the prospect of 3 more years of this young man, and hopefully a coach who can help him grow!

I'm excited for ECU to get a new coach. With the right hire, it's very possible to get out of that ~300 level basement next year. In a couple years, they could be making some serious noise.

their 300 rpi is self imposed..their schedule is that bad.. they win enough conference games to be top 200 every year but they schedule so horribly every year

I mean, if your trying to build a winning culture, sometimes you have to schedule extremely horrible.


Houston in the 2015-16 season won 22 games but had a Kenpom SOS in the NON con of #350. Only 2 teams were worse. Then last year Houston had a Non Con SOS of #250 and this year its #246.

When they can start going undefeated or or 10-2 in their ****** non league schedule, then you work on upping the competition. But you need to build confidence and build a winning culture. Sometimes you do that on the backs of the worst teams in basketball.

you are always all numbers ..
houston 15 schedule was bad but thats because Georgetown backed out, no one would invite us to a good preseason tourney and our projected great games were flops (lsu with ben simmons and the otther 5 star was supposed to be amazing when it was scheduled)

last year we had lsu, arkansas, harvard, vermont..if we had been invited to a respectable preseason tourney, our schedule last year would have been good

you are mixing up our situation with ecu's ..houston has a hard time scheduling anyone, even this season we got a barely passable tournament .. sampson publicly says he has been trying to improve the schedule but its been difficult

ecu purposely had horrific schedules...the had 1 p5 who was horrifc....they had 1 decent rpi game in radford who was horrible last year, that lucked into being decent this year...they intentionally scheduled a bunch of games with all 300 rpi teams who have no chance of being good

houston schedules teams like lsu/rhode island/st louis. who are projected good but turn out horrible and for some reason cant get an invite to a good preseason tourney (likely attendance)
dont act like we were purposely building trash schedules...something ecu tries to do..there are better buy games than what they do

but to your point i agree to an extent, but within a range, you schedule to your talent but you never over schedule or under schedule..no matter how bad it is it shouldnt go below a certain point, and should be harder than a certain point

PS you always say "Im always numbers". But numbers are facts. They just are what they are. There maybe stories behind the facts, but they're still facts regardless.

People who don't like numbers, usually don't like facts. While you may say I use numbers too much, I think you analyze with emotion too much. You let your connection to your team sometimes blind you from the reality of what the unaltered unbiased statistical numbers say
(the Houston having a fouling problem debate for Example).
03-07-2018 03:14 PM
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