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(03-05-2018 05:09 PM)EagleAttorney Wrote:  Thad Cochran ® Senator from Mississippi has decided to step down effective April 1, 2018 due to health problems. One can only hope that McCain will follow his lead.

Is McCain still alive? Man, I've been bamboozled.
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(03-05-2018 10:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:09 PM)EagleAttorney Wrote:  Thad Cochran ® Senator from Mississippi has decided to step down effective April 1, 2018 due to health problems. One can only hope that McCain will follow his lead.

Is McCain still alive? Man, I've been bamboozled.

that all depends on your definition of "alive" 03-wink

he's been a RINO for some time now....
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(03-05-2018 10:33 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:49 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So, there WILL be a chance for the Dems to face off against Chris McDaniel. This works as well for the Dems as possible in Mississippi.

keep smoking that crazy crack pipe son......

every eligible whitey will show up for this one and the blacks not in the delta will show up for this one voting ®....

or is that a racist comment....

Screw it Stinky, do you think Blacks would hold back their hate. They sure don't on TV, can you say Maxine Waters? Does she hold back and you can add almost every Black Demoncrap that comes out on the MSM . It ain't racist if it's true.

ollie, we're both simply too old to pull punches trying to fight for what is 'right' in today's world....

you also know my dry/frank humor well enough where skin color doesn't matter to me.....

for our children's children, sometimes it simply has to be stated a certain way....

socialism has to die regardless of the collateral damage absorbed along the way....

in a capitalistic economy, the goal is to minimize dependence by creating a 'structural self worth environment'.....that's what the dippos fail to continue to understand....

the only thing that matters is protecting commerce moving forward.....today that's protecting the USD......at all costs....

lose that guy........well.......................you know how that story ends....
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(03-05-2018 08:34 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:39 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  So, there WILL be a chance for the Dems to face off against Chris McDaniel. This works as well for the Dems as possible in Mississippi.

Cochran is stepping down due to health reasons, and tom is first to jump in and tell us how great it is for the dems, politically.

Sick.

Laughable snowflake. did he offend your sense of propriety?

Read the OP, where the post appeared to be cheerleading McCain's health issues.

I'm just discussing the political ramifications of this likely planned retirement announcement by Cochran.
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(03-05-2018 05:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:09 PM)EagleAttorney Wrote:  Thad Cochran ® Senator from Mississippi has decided to step down effective April 1, 2018 due to health problems. One can only hope that McCain will follow his lead.

McCain resigning would not be optimal for the Republicans. You don't want two GOP seats in Arizona to defend this cycle. You really don't. We'd love to have another opportunity for a swingish open seat in this electoral environment.

Kelli Ward or Joe Arpaio could win the GOP primary in either of them, virtually guaranteeing a Dem takeover. Heck, McSally is going to have trouble against Sinema.

Furthermore, it causes Gov. Ducey problems too. He's going to have to appoint someone, and if he goes hard right, he's going to have trouble in his reelection campaign. And if he goes moderate that causes him trouble as well in a primary.

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I promise you...defending 1 seat in Arizona is a lot better than defending 2 in Arizona.

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(03-05-2018 06:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I vote almost totally Libertarian but in close races I tend to root for the republicans. Not because I like them, but because I hate the democrats more. At best I see republicans as the lesser evil, and lesser evils are still evil. So I won't enable them.

But we are getting to the point where the failure of republicans to come up with any coherent platform or set of principles is becoming very annoying. Bernie wants to make us Venezuela and I reject that. WTF do republicans offer as an alternative?

This post hits the nail on the head. The GOP is in the drivers seat now and we still don't have a coherent direction other than we're not Hillary and The Wall. Maybe the trade "war" will spark some serious economic debate about the future of the party but so far the direction is still murky. And that is on Trump since he's the guy in charge.
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(03-05-2018 06:17 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 06:13 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the simplest way to answer........not socialism.....

Yeah, and I'm 100% in favor of that. But they can't just say not socialism. Because here's what happens. If it's just socialism versus not socialism, then we are inevitably going to end up somewhere in between, which just means we get to become Venezuela slower rather than faster. I'm ready for republicans to grow a pair and get back on the field with some ideas instead of just not socialism.

I couldn't agree more....

however, today's fight is raising awareness so that becomes an option.....

due to pure numbers alone, that's not an easy task within the culture/wealth divide that exists today....

I stated from the get-go that #henceDJT's goal was to get the RNC up off their collective arses....

I'm fairly certain you would agree any of the other electable candidates would've kept the 'status quo train' a rollin'.....

it's now become the #DJTexperiment....

again, one can only hope this works....
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(03-05-2018 05:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:09 PM)EagleAttorney Wrote:  Thad Cochran ® Senator from Mississippi has decided to step down effective April 1, 2018 due to health problems. One can only hope that McCain will follow his lead.

McCain resigning would not be optimal for the Republicans. You don't want two GOP seats in Arizona to defend this cycle. You really don't. We'd love to have another opportunity for a swingish open seat in this electoral environment.

Kelli Ward or Joe Arpaio could win the GOP primary in either of them, virtually guaranteeing a Dem takeover. Heck, McSally is going to have trouble against Sinema.

Furthermore, it causes Gov. Ducey problems too. He's going to have to appoint someone, and if he goes hard right, he's going to have trouble in his reelection campaign. And if he goes moderate that causes him trouble as well in a primary.

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I promise you...defending 1 seat in Arizona is a lot better than defending 2 in Arizona.

For once, you are actually right on your partisan analysis. Arizona is just barely red. Of all the Democrat's fantasies, Arizona is the one red state with a good chance of turning purple. Oddly enough, its one they rarely talk about.
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It's because of so many Californians moving there. Egad, it's like a plague.
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(03-05-2018 06:39 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 06:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 06:20 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 06:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 06:13 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  the simplest way to answer........not socialism.....

one can only hope that fiscal cons become part of reality moving forward.....I'm not holding my breath......but I damn sure know which is the lesser of the two evils.....

it appears McConnell wants our Governor to appoint himself (Bryant....southern miss grad)....

that would draw some ire from the other side of the aisle....

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/0...l-1-437126


the 'sip now has two seats up for grabs......I don't worry about it.....they're both a gimme putt to remain ®.....most likely it will be Wicker keeps his seat and McDaniel fills out the remainder of Cochran's term after the special election...

Historially Governors appointing themselves don't perform well electorally.

Bryant is a piece of work. That's to be sure.

it would only be for the interim....

I actually would be surprised if he agrees to it....I gotta call our whip now to get the skinny....

That would be interesting. So he'd temporarily give up the Governor's mansion and take a leave of absence to take up a Senate seat? That doesn't make a lot of sense. Especially if Bryant wasn't planning on running himself.

McConnell plus intervention in Southern Senate special elections. What could go wrong?

like I said, I don't disagree.....it's doesn't make any political sense to me either....

that's McConnell for ya....

I'm waiting on a text....and I'm certain the response will be phrased in a way to not indict said person...if I get one, I'll let you guys know...

I personally don't see how you don't appoint McDaniel unless there is another candidate the reds are favoring that I'm unaware of.....

as expected, Bryant says, no thanks!

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news...400914002/

Quote:Mississippi’s Republican governor reaffirmed Tuesday that he won't appoint himself to the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Thad Cochran, saying he’ll find another strong contender to keep the seat firmly in GOP hands for decades, as Cochran did.

“There’s something nefarious about the idea of a governor appointing himself. Washington’s not where I want to be just now,” Gov. Phil Bryant told reporters.
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(03-05-2018 06:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I vote almost totally Libertarian but in close races I tend to root for the republicans. Not because I like them, but because I hate the democrats more. At best I see republicans as the lesser evil, and lesser evils are still evil. So I won't enable them.

But we are getting to the point where the failure of republicans to come up with any coherent platform or set of principles is becoming very annoying. Bernie wants to make us Venezuela and I reject that. WTF do republicans offer as an alternative?

NOT Venezuela seems pretty damn good all on its on.
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(03-08-2018 11:45 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 06:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I vote almost totally Libertarian but in close races I tend to root for the republicans. Not because I like them, but because I hate the democrats more. At best I see republicans as the lesser evil, and lesser evils are still evil. So I won't enable them.
But we are getting to the point where the failure of republicans to come up with any coherent platform or set of principles is becoming very annoying. Bernie wants to make us Venezuela and I reject that. WTF do republicans offer as an alternative?
NOT Venezuela seems pretty damn good all on its on.

Yes, but I think you need more than that. If the only choices are Venezuela or not Venezuela, then we will pretty much inevitably end up as "sorta Venezuela" as a compromise. And I don't want that.

Bobby Jones once called a penalty stroke on himself that cost him a tournament. Nobody else saw it, but he still called it. When people praised him for it, his response was, "That's like complimenting someone for not robbing a bank today." That's about where I think NOT Venezuela ranks on the list of things to be admired.

We have problems. So, let's come up with conservative solutions. There are far better ways to deal with poverty than the welfare plantation, there are far better ways to deal with the environment and endangered species than the EPA command and control approach, so on and so forth. So let's get those ideas into the stream of discussion instead of just we are going to do what the democrats want, only we're not going to spend as much as they want to.
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who'd a thunk it????

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/...ntest.html

Quote:Mississippi Republican Senate candidate Chris McDaniel announced Wednesday he will run for the seat vacated by Sen. Thad Cochran, instead of challenging incumbent Sen. Roger Wicker, in an effort to “unite the party” in the double-barreled Senate race.

McDaniel, who is a Mississippi state senator, has shifted resources to campaign for the Cochran seat, which will become open April 1.

“By announcing early, we are asking Mississippi Republicans to unite around my candidacy and avoid another contentious contest among GOP members that would only improve the Democrats’ chances of winning the open seat,” McDaniel said in a statement Wednesday. “If we unite the party and consolidate our resources, we can guarantee Donald Trump will have a fighter who will stand with him.”


The seat McDaniel is now running for is the same seat he unsuccessfully competed for in the 2014 Republican primary against Cochran.
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And that provides an opening for the Democrats. The bet is that McDaniel and the Democrat will advance to a December runoff and that race will be decided by a smaller electorate which can be swayed more easily in the GOP's favor. Didn't work out that way in Alabama.

Do I think the Dems take it? No, but it provides another opportunity for the Dems to pick up a seat that is far more likely than beating Wicker.

Basically, in these heavily Red districts, its all about matchups. Have the GOP nominate an awful candidate, have the Dems nominate a good one, and hope for some luck. McDaniel makes this seat possible for the Dems and might draw in a Dem that could possibly win, like Presley. McDaniel v Presley would be a race that might look very interesting.
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(03-16-2018 01:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And that provides an opening for the Democrats. The bet is that McDaniel and the Democrat will advance to a December runoff and that race will be decided by a smaller electorate which can be swayed more easily in the GOP's favor. Didn't work out that way in Alabama.

Do I think the Dems take it? No, but it provides another opportunity for the Dems to pick up a seat that is far more likely than beating Wicker.

Basically, in these heavily Red districts, its all about matchups. Have the GOP nominate an awful candidate, have the Dems nominate a good one, and hope for some luck. McDaniel makes this seat possible for the Dems and might draw in a Dem that could possibly win, like Presley. McDaniel v Presley would be a race that might look very interesting.

bottom line it's the better strategical move....

and I have no problem with the bammer outcome....

I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself......I hate politics.....I only give a shite how you vote on economic policy.....

the 'phants have to let go of the abortion bs......that's a lost cause....it's idiotic in scope at this point....

once again....it's doesn't mean dick whether you like it or not....

you're the party over country feller.....

you're still not understanding why #henceDJT was monumental.....

oh wellzy....
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(03-05-2018 05:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:09 PM)EagleAttorney Wrote:  Thad Cochran ® Senator from Mississippi has decided to step down effective April 1, 2018 due to health problems. One can only hope that McCain will follow his lead.

McCain resigning would not be optimal for the Republicans. You don't want two GOP seats in Arizona to defend this cycle. You really don't. We'd love to have another opportunity for a swingish open seat in this electoral environment.

Kelli Ward or Joe Arpaio could win the GOP primary in either of them, virtually guaranteeing a Dem takeover. Heck, McSally is going to have trouble against Sinema.

Furthermore, it causes Gov. Ducey problems too. He's going to have to appoint someone, and if he goes hard right, he's going to have trouble in his reelection campaign. And if he goes moderate that causes him trouble as well in a primary.

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I promise you...defending 1 seat in Arizona is a lot better than defending 2 in Arizona.

McCain's a RINO. He can't be gone fast enough for me. Replacing him with Harry Reid wouldn't be a downgrade. At least he's honest about where he stands.
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(03-16-2018 06:30 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:09 PM)EagleAttorney Wrote:  Thad Cochran ® Senator from Mississippi has decided to step down effective April 1, 2018 due to health problems. One can only hope that McCain will follow his lead.

McCain resigning would not be optimal for the Republicans. You don't want two GOP seats in Arizona to defend this cycle. You really don't. We'd love to have another opportunity for a swingish open seat in this electoral environment.

Kelli Ward or Joe Arpaio could win the GOP primary in either of them, virtually guaranteeing a Dem takeover. Heck, McSally is going to have trouble against Sinema.

Furthermore, it causes Gov. Ducey problems too. He's going to have to appoint someone, and if he goes hard right, he's going to have trouble in his reelection campaign. And if he goes moderate that causes him trouble as well in a primary.

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I promise you...defending 1 seat in Arizona is a lot better than defending 2 in Arizona.

McCain's a RINO. He can't be gone fast enough for me. Replacing him with Harry Reid wouldn't be a downgrade. At least he's honest about where he stands.

at least ol' tom-tom is transparent with his trolling....I'll give him that one....
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(03-16-2018 06:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-16-2018 06:30 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:09 PM)EagleAttorney Wrote:  Thad Cochran ® Senator from Mississippi has decided to step down effective April 1, 2018 due to health problems. One can only hope that McCain will follow his lead.

McCain resigning would not be optimal for the Republicans. You don't want two GOP seats in Arizona to defend this cycle. You really don't. We'd love to have another opportunity for a swingish open seat in this electoral environment.

Kelli Ward or Joe Arpaio could win the GOP primary in either of them, virtually guaranteeing a Dem takeover. Heck, McSally is going to have trouble against Sinema.

Furthermore, it causes Gov. Ducey problems too. He's going to have to appoint someone, and if he goes hard right, he's going to have trouble in his reelection campaign. And if he goes moderate that causes him trouble as well in a primary.

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I promise you...defending 1 seat in Arizona is a lot better than defending 2 in Arizona.

McCain's a RINO. He can't be gone fast enough for me. Replacing him with Harry Reid wouldn't be a downgrade. At least he's honest about where he stands.

at least ol' tom-tom is transparent with his trolling....I'll give him that one....

I've not yet decided if he's transparent, or just not very good at it.
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(03-16-2018 07:08 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(03-16-2018 06:38 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(03-16-2018 06:30 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:37 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 05:09 PM)EagleAttorney Wrote:  Thad Cochran ® Senator from Mississippi has decided to step down effective April 1, 2018 due to health problems. One can only hope that McCain will follow his lead.

McCain resigning would not be optimal for the Republicans. You don't want two GOP seats in Arizona to defend this cycle. You really don't. We'd love to have another opportunity for a swingish open seat in this electoral environment.

Kelli Ward or Joe Arpaio could win the GOP primary in either of them, virtually guaranteeing a Dem takeover. Heck, McSally is going to have trouble against Sinema.

Furthermore, it causes Gov. Ducey problems too. He's going to have to appoint someone, and if he goes hard right, he's going to have trouble in his reelection campaign. And if he goes moderate that causes him trouble as well in a primary.

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I promise you...defending 1 seat in Arizona is a lot better than defending 2 in Arizona.

McCain's a RINO. He can't be gone fast enough for me. Replacing him with Harry Reid wouldn't be a downgrade. At least he's honest about where he stands.

at least ol' tom-tom is transparent with his trolling....I'll give him that one....

I've not yet decided if he's transparent, or just not very good at it.

C) both the above (btw, nice subliminal pun)
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