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Nothings concrete yet but the NBA is looking to drop the rule.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22615...again-espn
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What will Kentucky do?
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(03-05-2018 07:17 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  What will Kentucky do?

kids there will actually have to start going to class
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(03-05-2018 07:27 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 07:17 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  What will Kentucky do?

kids there will actually have to start going to class

oh boy. duke gonna have even bigger problems.
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North Carolina has their best cheaters working on this already... If this is about cheating they'll figure this out in no time.
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(03-05-2018 07:17 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  What will Kentucky do?

Until the NBA can offer up a league that pays more than $100k
Kentucky and other NCAA schools can simply out bid them
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RE: One & Done going away?
Something that the NCAA could do to fight the one-and-done rule made by the NCAA is to make all first year student athletes redshirt.

The one-and-done rule was created by the NBA to protect the owners from bidding wars on high school players that were dominant in high school, but may be a bust in the NBA. If the NCAA wants to protect amatuer athletics, they just take the one-and-done rule away.

That said, there is nothing ethically wrong with paying basketball (or football) players for the sport they play. I don't know the right answer to helping athletically gifted kids who want to play ball and have little immediate interest in higher education. I do think the NCAA needs to work to prevent college sports from being a farm system to ensure some form of competition.
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The NBA should use the G League instead of the NCAA. Players can go there right out of high school on a one year “prove it” deal worth a set amount (50k) that allows them to flex to NBA rosters. NBA has a +1 spot for rookies on a G League team, and players right out of HS are not eligible for the draft. Limit the appearances to 10 games per rookie. If they don’t make an NBA team, they can go to college and play for a college team. Once a player declares out of college, they forgo the rest of their eligibility.
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the one and done allowed programs like ours to get the landry shamets, jake evans, etc...
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(03-05-2018 08:43 PM)shock Wrote:  The NBA should use the G League instead of the NCAA. Players can go there right out of high school on a one year “prove it” deal worth a set amount (50k) that allows them to flex to NBA rosters. NBA has a +1 spot for rookies on a G League team, and players right out of HS are not eligible for the draft. Limit the appearances to 10 games per rookie. If they don’t make an NBA team, they can go to college and play for a college team. Once a player declares out of college, they forgo the rest of their eligibility.


That makes too much sense for the powers that be...lol
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(03-06-2018 06:24 AM)Lush Wrote:  the one and done allowed programs like ours to get the landry shamets, jake evans, etc...

Lance Stephenson, I agree. Evans was not a guy who was going to the league out of HS. From what I have seen nobody in this conference right now was. The guys who have NBA talent in the AAC simply didn't have NBA bodies at 17 or 18 years old.

Anymore, the one and done rule doesn't directly impact many schools with the exception that when the UKs, KUs, Dukes and UNCs of the world use schoolies on those one year guys it pushes otherwise quality recruits that those schools may have taken farther down the line somewhere.
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(03-06-2018 06:41 AM)WsU Tang Clan Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 08:43 PM)shock Wrote:  The NBA should use the G League instead of the NCAA. Players can go there right out of high school on a one year “prove it” deal worth a set amount (50k) that allows them to flex to NBA rosters. NBA has a +1 spot for rookies on a G League team, and players right out of HS are not eligible for the draft. Limit the appearances to 10 games per rookie. If they don’t make an NBA team, they can go to college and play for a college team. Once a player declares out of college, they forgo the rest of their eligibility.


That makes too much sense for the powers that be...lol

Except the minute they go that route they have no NCAA eligibility. And that will never change. Otherwise, you'd have guys like John Caliperi lined up at G-League games with agents recruiting to fill out college rosters and agency deals. I mean what could go wrong, right?
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(03-06-2018 07:45 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 06:24 AM)Lush Wrote:  the one and done allowed programs like ours to get the landry shamets, jake evans, etc...

Lance Stephenson, I agree. Evans was not a guy who was going to the league out of HS. From what I have seen nobody in this conference right now was. The guys who have NBA talent in the AAC simply didn't have NBA bodies at 17 or 18 years old.

Anymore, the one and done rule doesn't directly impact many schools with the exception that when the UKs, KUs, Dukes and UNCs of the world use schoolies on those one year guys it pushes otherwise quality recruits that those schools may have taken farther down the line somewhere.

i was thinking a school like uk would get someone that a school like florida or something would otherwise get and then so on....
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G League pay is ~$26K. Even if the player gets $0 money under the table, when you consider the free housing, food, stipend, health care, gear, attention and other perks associated with playing CBB at these schools the G League by comparison is not that attractive.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think the 0+2+2 model is the way to go. Everyone is eligible to be drafted after their senior year of high school, Those who don't get drafted can either go G-League or School. The ones who choose college must stay for two years before they're eligible to be drafted again, and they must declare for that draft. If they do not, then they wait until they graduate to be drafted.

Basically, a hybrid version of the MLB model to incorporate the G-League.
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(03-06-2018 09:25 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think the 0+2+2 model is the way to go. Everyone is eligible to be drafted after their senior year of high school, Those who don't get drafted can either go G-League or School. The ones who choose college must stay for two years before they're eligible to be drafted again, and they must declare for that draft. If they do not, then they wait until they graduate to be drafted.

Basically, a hybrid version of the MLB model to incorporate the G-League.

Agreed.
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(03-05-2018 08:43 PM)shock Wrote:  The NBA should use the G League instead of the NCAA. Players can go there right out of high school on a one year “prove it” deal worth a set amount (50k) that allows them to flex to NBA rosters. NBA has a +1 spot for rookies on a G League team, and players right out of HS are not eligible for the draft. Limit the appearances to 10 games per rookie. If they don’t make an NBA team, they can go to college and play for a college team. Once a player declares out of college, they forgo the rest of their eligibility.

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It would make college basketball more competitive, IMO.

But I think Duke, UK, KU, UNC, etc would still get all of the best players... they just would be slightly worse. Haha
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Cbb needs more roster continuity from the blue bloods. Its February by the time I can get a true feel of these teams when they start 3 or 4 freshmen.
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(03-06-2018 08:00 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 06:41 AM)WsU Tang Clan Wrote:  
(03-05-2018 08:43 PM)shock Wrote:  The NBA should use the G League instead of the NCAA. Players can go there right out of high school on a one year “prove it” deal worth a set amount (50k) that allows them to flex to NBA rosters. NBA has a +1 spot for rookies on a G League team, and players right out of HS are not eligible for the draft. Limit the appearances to 10 games per rookie. If they don’t make an NBA team, they can go to college and play for a college team. Once a player declares out of college, they forgo the rest of their eligibility.


That makes too much sense for the powers that be...lol

Except the minute they go that route they have no NCAA eligibility. And that will never change. Otherwise, you'd have guys like John Caliperi lined up at G-League games with agents recruiting to fill out college rosters and agency deals. I mean what could go wrong, right?

That would be fine. It would be good for the player. They can earn a good living for a year to help their family and if it doesnt pan out for them they can still play for an education. It gives NBA teams a good look at some that might genuinely be NBA players and they would know exactly what they have there. Basically the euro model+money. The key is that no franchise can offer more than another, and there would be limited roster spots.
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