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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
The AAC could be a very strong basketball conference if Memphis and UCONN get back to what they were 5-10 years ago.
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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.
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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
(03-06-2018 01:12 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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Not sure if you're trolling or just that badly informed.

You are right that the Tulsa community will start rumbling if we're not competitive with you. It's really just not ok with us.

If you ask most Tulsans we're the rich kids not the flagship although that changes depending on how good we are. When we're winning we're theirs. There is money but Tulsa city support matches our success level.

Now I know you're trolling it's very clear Tulsa won't cheat.

We've been clawing our way back from 9 seniors. Half way there or so now. Next year we should be close to back. But thanks for offering a hand.

I don't believe that's the way it was back when we were huge rivals. You find yourself in that mindset now due to decades of obscurity.

Next year you won't be "close to back" unless by back you mean scraping and clawing for an NCAA bid. Tulsa being back is Tulsa as a national power, like Wichita. It's going to take a lot of luck, but I think it can happen... with Wichita's help.

You're going to have to hire a superstar coach though. And he's going to have to not use you like a stepping stone. The sign that your program is serious will be if/when we can get you back to winning, you step up and give your coach $2 million+ BEFORE he starts receiving offers elsewhere.


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Houston and UCF have the highest ceilings in football.

UH has the higest ceiling in baseball.

With the new practice facility and Fertitta Center opening, UH is going to become a national player in basketball again.

Flagship of the conference.
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(03-06-2018 01:24 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston and UCF have the highest ceilings in football.

UH has the higest ceiling in baseball.

With the new practice facility and Fertitta Center opening, UH is going to become a national player in basketball again.

Flagship of the conference.

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(03-06-2018 01:24 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston and UCF have the highest ceilings in football.

UH has the highest* ceiling in baseball.

With the new practice facility and Fertitta Center opening, UH is going to become a national player in basketball again.

Flagship of the conference.

LOL. Not even the highest ceiling in Houston.
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(03-06-2018 12:51 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  CWS appearances:

Wichita State: 7 (1982, 1988, 1989 CWS Champions, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996)
UCONN: 5 (1957, 1959, 1965, 1972, 1979)
Tulane: 2 (2001, 2005)
Houston: 2 (1953, 1967)

Maybe ECU needs to get to the Show before bustin anyone.

Also made it to title game in 82, 91, and 93.

Lost to LSU both times in the 90’s..04-chairshot
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(03-06-2018 01:31 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:24 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston and UCF have the highest ceilings in football.

UH has the highest* ceiling in baseball.

With the new practice facility and Fertitta Center opening, UH is going to become a national player in basketball again.

Flagship of the conference.

LOL. Not even in the highest ceiling in Houston.

Rice would be the best baseball program that this conference would have, so not sure what your point is?
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(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

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(03-06-2018 01:13 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Cincinnati will be back in football as well. We also have 5 conference titles from 2008-2014. We made a terrible coaching hire in Tommy Tuberville which set us back a couple years. Luke Fickell's recruiting has been spectacular-- it is just going to take us a couple more years to get there.

I hope we can do the same
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(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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(03-06-2018 01:13 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Cincinnati will be back in football as well. We also have 5 conference titles from 2008-2014. We made a terrible coaching hire in Tommy Tuberville which set us back a couple years. Luke Fickell's recruiting has been spectacular-- it is just going to take us a couple more years to get there.

I agree with this. I put Cincy third in upside in football. Simply because of where UH and UCF are located. I also really like what Memphis is doing, but I think a clear top 3 are UH, UCF, and Cincy when it comes to football. JMO.

I think the top 5 in basketball moving forward are going to be Cincy, Wichita, UH, Temple, and UCONN. I want to put SMU in this group, but need to see what they can do under Jank and with Jank players. I don’t have faith in Memphis turning it around in the near-term. Especially with their infatuation of letting go a seasoned Vet in Tubby for Penny Hardaway. Would be a step back, IMO.
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(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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they are better then that. they are ranked and on there way to the tourney. they have chance to have a deep run. Honestly they are gonna be on of my sleepers in the tourny. Are You Still upset about losing to them???
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(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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And this conference will fold the second UH and Cincy leave.
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(03-06-2018 01:46 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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And this conference will fold the second UH, UConn, and Cincy leave.
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(03-06-2018 01:47 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:46 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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And this conference will fold the second UH, UConn, and Cincy leave.
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You read my mind. Because there is no way in hell UCONN is staying in this conference if those two leave. You think the talk about UCONN moving back to the Big East is exhausting now? Wait until those two are gone. Even though I think UCONN eventually gets invited to the ACC once Notre Dame becomes a full member.
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(03-06-2018 01:12 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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Not sure if you're trolling or just that badly informed.

You are right that the Tulsa community will start rumbling if we're not competitive with you. It's really just not ok with us.

If you ask most Tulsans we're the rich kids not the flagship although that changes depending on how good we are. When we're winning we're theirs. There is money but Tulsa city support matches our success level.

Now I know you're trolling it's very clear Tulsa won't cheat.

We've been clawing our way back from 9 seniors. Half way there or so now. Next year we should be close to back. But thanks for offering a hand.

I don't believe that's the way it was back when we were huge rivals. You find yourself in that mindset now due to decades of obscurity.

Next year you won't be "close to back" unless by back you mean scraping and clawing for an NCAA bid. Tulsa being back is Tulsa as a national power, like Wichita. It's going to take a lot of luck, but I think it can happen... with Wichita's help.

You're going to have to hire a superstar coach though. And he's going to have to not use you like a stepping stone. The sign that your program is serious will be if/when we can get you back to winning, you step up and give your coach $2 million+ BEFORE he starts receiving offers elsewhere.


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Back when we were playing you and you were relevant (the early 80s) you are correct. We had almost double the undergrads and we didn't push ourselves as a strict academics type. As WSU began it's two decade slump and TU moved on to bigger things (late 80s-2000) we had a president try and kill athletics and our image changed as our undergrad enrollment was brought down.

TU has gone through a down time the end of Buzz Peterson through Wojick but never really got bad. Tulsa has recent NCAA appearences and unlike WSU we have never experience even a decade of utter irrelevance. The city only loves us at the top level of play. Otherwise we have about 5,000 die hards which is why our attendance has hovered in the 4,000+ range even with meh seasons.

Tulsa pays well, I think I read some where that Haith is like 1.3 million a year and some incentives that can get him to 1.5. I'd say that's about right for what he is currently doing. Not sure why you think we would struggle to do 2 million if a coach deserved it, we offered Bill Self (20 years ago) over a million a decade ago with rising bonuses for each year he stayed that would have turned it to 1.4 a year if he completed it.

Next year TU will be competing for a NCAA at large berth, which is what I expect every year. I expect to win a game most years, a sweet sixteen or better every class or so (4-5 years). We put together a truly dangerous team every six years or so. That's a nationally relevant program. Neither WSU or Tulsa are national powers, although three or four more years of national relevance and deep tourny runs and wsu could get there.

I think WSU being in our conference is a good thing, I think our rivalry will help. Memphis is still in recovery so the challenge they use to give us has been lacking and SMU and Tulsa haven't both been really good at the same time to deepen that competitive connection. But competing against the shockers and kicking ass? That's as natural to us as breathing.

Houston coming along nicely means we have teams close by who are going to force us to compete at the top level or take beatings. For our fans even conference teams not in our region are solid names UConn, Cincy, Temple, and now UCF. We've been smoldering but WSU's arrival will likely have us burning up.
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(03-06-2018 12:51 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  CWS appearances:

Wichita State: 7 (1982, 1988, 1989 CWS Champions, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996)
UCONN: 5 (1957, 1959, 1965, 1972, 1979)
Tulane: 2 (2001, 2005)
Houston: 2 (1953, 1967)

Maybe ECU needs to get to the Show before bustin anyone.

We also have the 13th highest winning percentage out of all of college baseball and are currently ranked 19th in the country. But hey at least tulane was in the college world series over a decade ago!
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(03-06-2018 01:46 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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And this conference will fold the second UH and Cincy leave.

And Millard Fillmore is the 13th president of the United States. What the **** does a folding conference have to do with your lack of a fanbase? And LOL at the idea that UH is leaving to go anywhere but CUSA. Get the **** back under your rock and keep praying that UgH finally wins a game in the only major tournament you've been a participant in since Christ was a corporal.


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The ceiling for this league?

Football, play off/national championship but ideally 2 teams in ny6/playoffs. 4+ ranked teams

Basketball 7 bids and 2-3 NIT bids. 4-5 ranked teams. National championship.

Women's Basketball 3-4 bids. 3+ teams ranked (thanks UConn) national championship

Baseball 2-3 regional hosts, cws team, national championship.

Olympic sports? Multiple nationally relevant teams and representation in NCAA tournaments.

There isn't a ceiling we're on top of the Empire State building.
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