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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
(03-06-2018 02:06 PM)2bumsabroad Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:51 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  CWS appearances:

Wichita State: 7 (1982, 1988, 1989 CWS Champions, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996)
UCONN: 5 (1957, 1959, 1965, 1972, 1979)
Tulane: 2 (2001, 2005)
Houston: 2 (1953, 1967)

Maybe ECU needs to get to the Show before bustin anyone.

We also have the 13th highest winning percentage out of all of college baseball and are currently ranked 19th in the country. But hey at least tulane was in the college world series over a decade ago!

Hey hey HEY

Tulsa went to the cws and made the championship game. Put some respect in there for the Golden Hurricane too.
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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
(03-06-2018 01:55 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:12 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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Not sure if you're trolling or just that badly informed.

You are right that the Tulsa community will start rumbling if we're not competitive with you. It's really just not ok with us.

If you ask most Tulsans we're the rich kids not the flagship although that changes depending on how good we are. When we're winning we're theirs. There is money but Tulsa city support matches our success level.

Now I know you're trolling it's very clear Tulsa won't cheat.

We've been clawing our way back from 9 seniors. Half way there or so now. Next year we should be close to back. But thanks for offering a hand.

I don't believe that's the way it was back when we were huge rivals. You find yourself in that mindset now due to decades of obscurity.

Next year you won't be "close to back" unless by back you mean scraping and clawing for an NCAA bid. Tulsa being back is Tulsa as a national power, like Wichita. It's going to take a lot of luck, but I think it can happen... with Wichita's help.

You're going to have to hire a superstar coach though. And he's going to have to not use you like a stepping stone. The sign that your program is serious will be if/when we can get you back to winning, you step up and give your coach $2 million+ BEFORE he starts receiving offers elsewhere.


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Back when we were playing you and you were relevant (the early 80s) you are correct. We had almost double the undergrads and we didn't push ourselves as a strict academics type. As WSU began it's two decade slump and TU moved on to bigger things (late 80s-2000) we had a president try and kill athletics and our image changed as our undergrad enrollment was brought down.

TU has gone through a down time the end of Buzz Peterson through Wojick but never really got bad. Tulsa has recent NCAA appearences and unlike WSU we have never experience even a decade of utter irrelevance. The city only loves us at the top level of play. Otherwise we have about 5,000 die hards which is why our attendance has hovered in the 4,000+ range even with meh seasons.

Tulsa pays well, I think I read some where that Haith is like 1.3 million a year and some incentives that can get him to 1.5. I'd say that's about right for what he is currently doing. Not sure why you think we would struggle to do 2 million if a coach deserved it, we offered Bill Self (20 years ago) over a million a decade ago with rising bonuses for each year he stayed that would have turned it to 1.4 a year if he completed it.

Next year TU will be competing for a NCAA at large berth, which is what I expect every year. I expect to win a game most years, a sweet sixteen or better every class or so (4-5 years). We put together a truly dangerous team every six years or so. That's a nationally relevant program. Neither WSU or Tulsa are national powers, although three or four more years of national relevance and deep tourny runs and wsu could get there.

I think WSU being in our conference is a good thing, I think our rivalry will help. Memphis is still in recovery so the challenge they use to give us has been lacking and SMU and Tulsa haven't both been really good at the same time to deepen that competitive connection. But competing against the shockers and kicking ass? That's as natural to us as breathing.

Houston coming along nicely means we have teams close by who are going to force us to compete at the top level or take beatings. For our fans even conference teams not in our region are solid names UConn, Cincy, Temple, and now UCF. We've been smoldering but WSU's arrival will likely have us burning up.

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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
(03-06-2018 02:07 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:46 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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And this conference will fold the second UH and Cincy leave.

And Millard Fillmore is the 13th president of the United States. What the **** does a folding conference have to do with your lack of a fanbase? And LOL at the idea that UH is leaving to go anywhere but CUSA. Get the **** back under your rock and keep praying that UgH finally wins a game in the only major tournament you've been a participant in since Christ was a corporal.


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We’ve been irrelevant for 30 years in basketball and still have three more final four appearances than Powerhouse Wichita State. Lmao.

A lot of big talk coming from a guy whose school can’t even support a football program. You know, the sport that drives the bus?
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(03-06-2018 12:26 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:24 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  The ceiling is the roof.

You're welcome.

The roof is on fire

We don't need no water, let the mf*r burn....
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(03-06-2018 12:48 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:43 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  If they play their cards right I think the Texas and Florida schools could make the playoff in football.

Regular NCAA tournament bids in basketball:
UConn
Cincinnati
Temple
Memphis
Houston
Wichita State
Tulsa
SMU

CWS contenders in baseball:
Houston
UConn
Wichita State
Tulane

The ECU mob just bust the windows out yo car.

We've proven inconsistent over the years so IMHO his forecast is realistic for us.
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UCONN and UCF have already proven that teams can win real national titles in basketball and fake national titles in football. That is the ceiling.
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(03-06-2018 02:13 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:55 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:12 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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Not sure if you're trolling or just that badly informed.

You are right that the Tulsa community will start rumbling if we're not competitive with you. It's really just not ok with us.

If you ask most Tulsans we're the rich kids not the flagship although that changes depending on how good we are. When we're winning we're theirs. There is money but Tulsa city support matches our success level.

Now I know you're trolling it's very clear Tulsa won't cheat.

We've been clawing our way back from 9 seniors. Half way there or so now. Next year we should be close to back. But thanks for offering a hand.

I don't believe that's the way it was back when we were huge rivals. You find yourself in that mindset now due to decades of obscurity.

Next year you won't be "close to back" unless by back you mean scraping and clawing for an NCAA bid. Tulsa being back is Tulsa as a national power, like Wichita. It's going to take a lot of luck, but I think it can happen... with Wichita's help.

You're going to have to hire a superstar coach though. And he's going to have to not use you like a stepping stone. The sign that your program is serious will be if/when we can get you back to winning, you step up and give your coach $2 million+ BEFORE he starts receiving offers elsewhere.


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Back when we were playing you and you were relevant (the early 80s) you are correct. We had almost double the undergrads and we didn't push ourselves as a strict academics type. As WSU began it's two decade slump and TU moved on to bigger things (late 80s-2000) we had a president try and kill athletics and our image changed as our undergrad enrollment was brought down.

TU has gone through a down time the end of Buzz Peterson through Wojick but never really got bad. Tulsa has recent NCAA appearences and unlike WSU we have never experience even a decade of utter irrelevance. The city only loves us at the top level of play. Otherwise we have about 5,000 die hards which is why our attendance has hovered in the 4,000+ range even with meh seasons.

Tulsa pays well, I think I read some where that Haith is like 1.3 million a year and some incentives that can get him to 1.5. I'd say that's about right for what he is currently doing. Not sure why you think we would struggle to do 2 million if a coach deserved it, we offered Bill Self (20 years ago) over a million a decade ago with rising bonuses for each year he stayed that would have turned it to 1.4 a year if he completed it.

Next year TU will be competing for a NCAA at large berth, which is what I expect every year. I expect to win a game most years, a sweet sixteen or better every class or so (4-5 years). We put together a truly dangerous team every six years or so. That's a nationally relevant program. Neither WSU or Tulsa are national powers, although three or four more years of national relevance and deep tourny runs and wsu could get there.

I think WSU being in our conference is a good thing, I think our rivalry will help. Memphis is still in recovery so the challenge they use to give us has been lacking and SMU and Tulsa haven't both been really good at the same time to deepen that competitive connection. But competing against the shockers and kicking ass? That's as natural to us as breathing.

Houston coming along nicely means we have teams close by who are going to force us to compete at the top level or take beatings. For our fans even conference teams not in our region are solid names UConn, Cincy, Temple, and now UCF. We've been smoldering but WSU's arrival will likely have us burning up.

[Image: 200w.webp]

There's so much WTF in this post...


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Still struggling with reality I see. You sucked from 1989-2011 and had one tournament appearence.

Not sure what you don't understand about Tulsa expectations. NCAA tourney team almost every year. Winning a game most years. A sweet sixteen or better every 3-4 years. Thats pretty solid no matter what program you are. If we start making regular sweet sixteen I'll start expect elite 8s and final fours.

My guess is the last sentence about wsu threw you off, it's called reality, check in from time to time.

The last part? Well I know it's been a while since we shared a conference, so here let me remind you while in the valley together (1945-1996)

Conference Championships:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 6

NCAA appearences:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 7
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I agree six or seven bids seems possible. Most of the OOC schedules seem very solid.
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(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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Since TDECU Stadium opened their football attendance has been solid. Their average is better than 75% capacity and since TDECU opened they've had 5 games over capacity. It takes time. Not sure what you're on about here.
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(03-06-2018 01:28 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:24 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston and UCF have the highest ceilings in football.

UH has the higest ceiling in baseball.

With the new practice facility and Fertitta Center opening, UH is going to become a national player in basketball again.

Flagship of the conference.

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UH Fan #4 here. Hey we already beat Witchita Falls State this year. We money.
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(03-06-2018 02:34 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:13 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:55 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:12 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Not sure if you're trolling or just that badly informed.

You are right that the Tulsa community will start rumbling if we're not competitive with you. It's really just not ok with us.

If you ask most Tulsans we're the rich kids not the flagship although that changes depending on how good we are. When we're winning we're theirs. There is money but Tulsa city support matches our success level.

Now I know you're trolling it's very clear Tulsa won't cheat.

We've been clawing our way back from 9 seniors. Half way there or so now. Next year we should be close to back. But thanks for offering a hand.

I don't believe that's the way it was back when we were huge rivals. You find yourself in that mindset now due to decades of obscurity.

Next year you won't be "close to back" unless by back you mean scraping and clawing for an NCAA bid. Tulsa being back is Tulsa as a national power, like Wichita. It's going to take a lot of luck, but I think it can happen... with Wichita's help.

You're going to have to hire a superstar coach though. And he's going to have to not use you like a stepping stone. The sign that your program is serious will be if/when we can get you back to winning, you step up and give your coach $2 million+ BEFORE he starts receiving offers elsewhere.


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Back when we were playing you and you were relevant (the early 80s) you are correct. We had almost double the undergrads and we didn't push ourselves as a strict academics type. As WSU began it's two decade slump and TU moved on to bigger things (late 80s-2000) we had a president try and kill athletics and our image changed as our undergrad enrollment was brought down.

TU has gone through a down time the end of Buzz Peterson through Wojick but never really got bad. Tulsa has recent NCAA appearences and unlike WSU we have never experience even a decade of utter irrelevance. The city only loves us at the top level of play. Otherwise we have about 5,000 die hards which is why our attendance has hovered in the 4,000+ range even with meh seasons.

Tulsa pays well, I think I read some where that Haith is like 1.3 million a year and some incentives that can get him to 1.5. I'd say that's about right for what he is currently doing. Not sure why you think we would struggle to do 2 million if a coach deserved it, we offered Bill Self (20 years ago) over a million a decade ago with rising bonuses for each year he stayed that would have turned it to 1.4 a year if he completed it.

Next year TU will be competing for a NCAA at large berth, which is what I expect every year. I expect to win a game most years, a sweet sixteen or better every class or so (4-5 years). We put together a truly dangerous team every six years or so. That's a nationally relevant program. Neither WSU or Tulsa are national powers, although three or four more years of national relevance and deep tourny runs and wsu could get there.

I think WSU being in our conference is a good thing, I think our rivalry will help. Memphis is still in recovery so the challenge they use to give us has been lacking and SMU and Tulsa haven't both been really good at the same time to deepen that competitive connection. But competing against the shockers and kicking ass? That's as natural to us as breathing.

Houston coming along nicely means we have teams close by who are going to force us to compete at the top level or take beatings. For our fans even conference teams not in our region are solid names UConn, Cincy, Temple, and now UCF. We've been smoldering but WSU's arrival will likely have us burning up.

[Image: 200w.webp]

There's so much WTF in this post...


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Still struggling with reality I see. You sucked from 1989-2011 and had one tournament appearence.

Not sure what you don't understand about Tulsa expectations. NCAA tourney team almost every year. Winning a game most years. A sweet sixteen or better every 3-4 years. Thats pretty solid no matter what program you are. If we start making regular sweet sixteen I'll start expect elite 8s and final fours.

My guess is the last sentence about wsu threw you off, it's called reality, check in from time to time.

The last part? Well I know it's been a while since we shared a conference, so here let me remind you while in the valley together (1945-1996)

Conference Championships:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 6

NCAA appearences:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 7

Bro, we stopped sucking after the turn of the century. ONE decade, the 90's, is when we sucked. It might be the worst decade in our program's history. We were going to the NIT in the early 00's and had a Sweet Sixteen in 2006 and was ranked as high as #8 in the nation the following year.

1989-2011... 03-lmfao you silly bastard.


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(03-06-2018 01:31 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:24 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  Houston and UCF have the highest ceilings in football.

UH has the highest* ceiling in baseball.

With the new practice facility and Fertitta Center opening, UH is going to become a national player in basketball again.

Flagship of the conference.

LOL. Not even the highest ceiling in Houston.

I would have agreed with you up until 2-3 years ago. Rice baseball has slipped. A lot. I live 2 blocks away and attend quite a few games. Attendance is way down. They last made a super regional in 2012-13. Since that time, we're 8-5 vs. Rice, have made a super, and we've hosted two regionals.
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(03-06-2018 02:49 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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Since TDECU Stadium opened their football attendance has been solid. Their average is better than 75% capacity and since TDECU opened they've had 5 games over capacity. It takes time. Not sure what you're on about here.

The little nobody called me an idiot so I gave him a dose of CB-flavored medicine. Nothing more, nothing less. Oh yeah, and I took away his only 2 rep points. 02-13-banana


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(03-06-2018 03:29 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:49 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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Since TDECU Stadium opened their football attendance has been solid. Their average is better than 75% capacity and since TDECU opened they've had 5 games over capacity. It takes time. Not sure what you're on about here.

The little nobody called me an idiot so I gave him a dose of CB-flavored medicine. Nothing more, nothing less. Oh yeah, and I took away his only 2 rep points. 02-13-banana


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Lmao. You’re a clown. I live and die by those rep points. What am I going to do now?
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(03-06-2018 03:29 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:49 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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Since TDECU Stadium opened their football attendance has been solid. Their average is better than 75% capacity and since TDECU opened they've had 5 games over capacity. It takes time. Not sure what you're on about here.

The little nobody called me an idiot so I gave him a dose of CB-flavored medicine. Nothing more, nothing less. Oh yeah, and I took away his only 2 rep points. 02-13-banana


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I see, its personal. Got it.
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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
Got some turds in the punch bowl.
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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
(03-06-2018 03:16 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:34 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:13 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:55 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  I don't believe that's the way it was back when we were huge rivals. You find yourself in that mindset now due to decades of obscurity.

Next year you won't be "close to back" unless by back you mean scraping and clawing for an NCAA bid. Tulsa being back is Tulsa as a national power, like Wichita. It's going to take a lot of luck, but I think it can happen... with Wichita's help.

You're going to have to hire a superstar coach though. And he's going to have to not use you like a stepping stone. The sign that your program is serious will be if/when we can get you back to winning, you step up and give your coach $2 million+ BEFORE he starts receiving offers elsewhere.


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Back when we were playing you and you were relevant (the early 80s) you are correct. We had almost double the undergrads and we didn't push ourselves as a strict academics type. As WSU began it's two decade slump and TU moved on to bigger things (late 80s-2000) we had a president try and kill athletics and our image changed as our undergrad enrollment was brought down.

TU has gone through a down time the end of Buzz Peterson through Wojick but never really got bad. Tulsa has recent NCAA appearences and unlike WSU we have never experience even a decade of utter irrelevance. The city only loves us at the top level of play. Otherwise we have about 5,000 die hards which is why our attendance has hovered in the 4,000+ range even with meh seasons.

Tulsa pays well, I think I read some where that Haith is like 1.3 million a year and some incentives that can get him to 1.5. I'd say that's about right for what he is currently doing. Not sure why you think we would struggle to do 2 million if a coach deserved it, we offered Bill Self (20 years ago) over a million a decade ago with rising bonuses for each year he stayed that would have turned it to 1.4 a year if he completed it.

Next year TU will be competing for a NCAA at large berth, which is what I expect every year. I expect to win a game most years, a sweet sixteen or better every class or so (4-5 years). We put together a truly dangerous team every six years or so. That's a nationally relevant program. Neither WSU or Tulsa are national powers, although three or four more years of national relevance and deep tourny runs and wsu could get there.

I think WSU being in our conference is a good thing, I think our rivalry will help. Memphis is still in recovery so the challenge they use to give us has been lacking and SMU and Tulsa haven't both been really good at the same time to deepen that competitive connection. But competing against the shockers and kicking ass? That's as natural to us as breathing.

Houston coming along nicely means we have teams close by who are going to force us to compete at the top level or take beatings. For our fans even conference teams not in our region are solid names UConn, Cincy, Temple, and now UCF. We've been smoldering but WSU's arrival will likely have us burning up.

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There's so much WTF in this post...


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Still struggling with reality I see. You sucked from 1989-2011 and had one tournament appearence.

Not sure what you don't understand about Tulsa expectations. NCAA tourney team almost every year. Winning a game most years. A sweet sixteen or better every 3-4 years. Thats pretty solid no matter what program you are. If we start making regular sweet sixteen I'll start expect elite 8s and final fours.

My guess is the last sentence about wsu threw you off, it's called reality, check in from time to time.

The last part? Well I know it's been a while since we shared a conference, so here let me remind you while in the valley together (1945-1996)

Conference Championships:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 6

NCAA appearences:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 7

Bro, we stopped sucking after the turn of the century. ONE decade, the 90's, is when we sucked. It might be the worst decade in our program's history. We were going to the NIT in the early 00's and had a Sweet Sixteen in 2006 and was ranked as high as #8 in the nation the following year.

1989-2011... 03-lmfao you silly bastard.


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Let me double check. . .

Nope one tourney appearence in 20+ years. That's sucking.

Did you get a NCAA bid when you were #8? So not even a flash in the pan for the season?

Even NITs included it's 7 times out of 22 years for post season play. Not good. . .
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(03-06-2018 03:45 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Let me double check. . .

Nope one tourney appearence in 20+ years. That's sucking.

Did you get a NCAA bid when you were #8? So not even a flash in the pan for the season?

Even NITs included it's 7 times out of 22 years for post season play. Not good. . .

Kids born around the last time Tulsa made an elite 8 can vote this year. Newborns when you last won a NCAA game are about to start driving. L O fkn L

your program is already burnt to the ground
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Tulsa seems to have picked up its trolling since WSU joined up.
03-06-2018 03:53 PM
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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
(03-06-2018 03:31 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 03:29 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:49 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:41 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

An idiot who's nearly always right.

Hey, why don't you try and scrape together a fanbase before you start making claims of future flagship status. Right now your entire program is an afterthought in the city of Houston let alone the state of Texas... don't even bring up the nation...


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Since TDECU Stadium opened their football attendance has been solid. Their average is better than 75% capacity and since TDECU opened they've had 5 games over capacity. It takes time. Not sure what you're on about here.

The little nobody called me an idiot so I gave him a dose of CB-flavored medicine. Nothing more, nothing less. Oh yeah, and I took away his only 2 rep points. 02-13-banana


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Lmao. You’re a clown. I live and die by those rep points. What am I going to do now?

Wait for Huskypride to bail you out apparently... H-pride you turncoat bastard! You still smoldering after being left out of the CSNBBS All AAC awards?

(In case anybody's lost, Huskypride gave Jo-peckerhead-23 his 2 pts. back) 01-lauramac2


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