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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
(03-06-2018 03:50 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 03:45 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Let me double check. . .

Nope one tourney appearence in 20+ years. That's sucking.

Did you get a NCAA bid when you were #8? So not even a flash in the pan for the season?

Even NITs included it's 7 times out of 22 years for post season play. Not good. . .

Kids born around the last time Tulsa made an elite 8 can vote this year. Newborns when you last won a NCAA game are about to start driving. L O fkn L

your program is already burnt to the ground

Wrong thread, you want the Tubby hatefest over here. . .

http://csnbbs.com/thread-844665.html

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(03-06-2018 03:45 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 03:16 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:34 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:13 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 01:55 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Back when we were playing you and you were relevant (the early 80s) you are correct. We had almost double the undergrads and we didn't push ourselves as a strict academics type. As WSU began it's two decade slump and TU moved on to bigger things (late 80s-2000) we had a president try and kill athletics and our image changed as our undergrad enrollment was brought down.

TU has gone through a down time the end of Buzz Peterson through Wojick but never really got bad. Tulsa has recent NCAA appearences and unlike WSU we have never experience even a decade of utter irrelevance. The city only loves us at the top level of play. Otherwise we have about 5,000 die hards which is why our attendance has hovered in the 4,000+ range even with meh seasons.

Tulsa pays well, I think I read some where that Haith is like 1.3 million a year and some incentives that can get him to 1.5. I'd say that's about right for what he is currently doing. Not sure why you think we would struggle to do 2 million if a coach deserved it, we offered Bill Self (20 years ago) over a million a decade ago with rising bonuses for each year he stayed that would have turned it to 1.4 a year if he completed it.

Next year TU will be competing for a NCAA at large berth, which is what I expect every year. I expect to win a game most years, a sweet sixteen or better every class or so (4-5 years). We put together a truly dangerous team every six years or so. That's a nationally relevant program. Neither WSU or Tulsa are national powers, although three or four more years of national relevance and deep tourny runs and wsu could get there.

I think WSU being in our conference is a good thing, I think our rivalry will help. Memphis is still in recovery so the challenge they use to give us has been lacking and SMU and Tulsa haven't both been really good at the same time to deepen that competitive connection. But competing against the shockers and kicking ass? That's as natural to us as breathing.

Houston coming along nicely means we have teams close by who are going to force us to compete at the top level or take beatings. For our fans even conference teams not in our region are solid names UConn, Cincy, Temple, and now UCF. We've been smoldering but WSU's arrival will likely have us burning up.

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There's so much WTF in this post...


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Still struggling with reality I see. You sucked from 1989-2011 and had one tournament appearence.

Not sure what you don't understand about Tulsa expectations. NCAA tourney team almost every year. Winning a game most years. A sweet sixteen or better every 3-4 years. Thats pretty solid no matter what program you are. If we start making regular sweet sixteen I'll start expect elite 8s and final fours.

My guess is the last sentence about wsu threw you off, it's called reality, check in from time to time.

The last part? Well I know it's been a while since we shared a conference, so here let me remind you while in the valley together (1945-1996)

Conference Championships:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 6

NCAA appearences:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 7

Bro, we stopped sucking after the turn of the century. ONE decade, the 90's, is when we sucked. It might be the worst decade in our program's history. We were going to the NIT in the early 00's and had a Sweet Sixteen in 2006 and was ranked as high as #8 in the nation the following year.

1989-2011... 03-lmfao you silly bastard.


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Let me double check. . .

Nope one tourney appearence in 20+ years. That's sucking.

Did you get a NCAA bid when you were #8? So not even a flash in the pan for the season?

Even NITs included it's 7 times out of 22 years for post season play. Not good. . .





...Tulsa still sucks.


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RE: what is the ceiling for the AAC
(03-06-2018 03:57 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 03:45 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 03:16 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:34 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:13 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  [Image: 200w.webp]

There's so much WTF in this post...


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Still struggling with reality I see. You sucked from 1989-2011 and had one tournament appearence.

Not sure what you don't understand about Tulsa expectations. NCAA tourney team almost every year. Winning a game most years. A sweet sixteen or better every 3-4 years. Thats pretty solid no matter what program you are. If we start making regular sweet sixteen I'll start expect elite 8s and final fours.

My guess is the last sentence about wsu threw you off, it's called reality, check in from time to time.

The last part? Well I know it's been a while since we shared a conference, so here let me remind you while in the valley together (1945-1996)

Conference Championships:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 6

NCAA appearences:
Tulsa 9
Wsu 7

Bro, we stopped sucking after the turn of the century. ONE decade, the 90's, is when we sucked. It might be the worst decade in our program's history. We were going to the NIT in the early 00's and had a Sweet Sixteen in 2006 and was ranked as high as #8 in the nation the following year.

1989-2011... 03-lmfao you silly bastard.


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...03-cool

Let me double check. . .

Nope one tourney appearence in 20+ years. That's sucking.

Did you get a NCAA bid when you were #8? So not even a flash in the pan for the season?

Even NITs included it's 7 times out of 22 years for post season play. Not good. . .





...Tulsa still sucks.


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(03-06-2018 03:53 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa seems to have picked up its trolling since WSU joined up.

Waking the entire Tulsa program back up is a process. The first step is to rile the fanbase. We tried to do that by prison-raping their bball team OOC for over half a decade. That didn't work so we joined their conference and specialists were sent onto the conference message boards to conduct PSYOP missions. The work is starting to pay off. Eventually the real Tulsa fans (the ones without mental disorders) will start showing up again and we'll all get to work.


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(03-06-2018 12:26 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:24 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  The ceiling is the roof.

You're welcome.

The roof is on fire

We can now gaze at the stars.
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(03-06-2018 12:26 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:24 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  The ceiling is the roof.

You're welcome.

The roof is on fire

We don't need no water let that mother--burn.
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(03-06-2018 03:53 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa seems to have picked up its trolling since WSU joined up.

Hatred of WSU gives the old farts a reason to live. 05-stirthepot
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(03-06-2018 04:27 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 03:53 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  Tulsa seems to have picked up its trolling since WSU joined up.

Hatred of WSU gives the old farts a reason to live. 05-stirthepot

Naw, Tulsa just got their first public library
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I think Memphis has as high a ceiling in basketball and football as any school in the league.
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(03-06-2018 04:41 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  I think Memphis has as high a ceiling in basketball and football as any school in the league.

Especially WSU football
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What is WSU ?
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(03-06-2018 05:57 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  What is WSU ?

Wayne State University? I always refer to our WSU as Wichita to avoid confusion.
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Context clues are hard, but I understand. There, there little fella
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(03-06-2018 04:41 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  I think Memphis has as high a ceiling in basketball and football as any school in the league.

Exactly. Any idea to the contrary is freaking dumb. We have state oif the art facilities either finished or coming online in both basketball and football, we have huge boosters who fund us to almost anything we need, we have an admin (finally) dedicated to being Top 25 in both sports, and we have a rabid fan base that's a bit nuts, but quite passionate.

As soon as there is any hope in basketball, attendance will skyrocket right back to the top of the AAC. And football looks positioned to be good to great for a long time.

I'm not going to argue that we are better positioned than UH or UCF, but we sure as hell don't have a lower ceiling.
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(03-06-2018 01:23 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 12:35 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  7 basketball bids are the ceiling and the bloodshed that would occur in this conference on such a year would be absolute PPV on CSNBBS.

The likely 7 candidates would be Wichita, Memphis, UConn, Temple, Cincy, SMU, and *drum roll* ...Tulsa.

Wichita is going to singlehandedly drag Tulsa (kicking and screaming) back to national relevancy. The city of Tulsa, IS NOT going to stand by while we embarrass their flagship city school year in and year out. Tulsa has loads of money and is likely funneling it TU's direction as we speak. The only risk for them will be the temptation to cheat (same goes for Memphis and UConn). Few programs in the world have a coach like Gregg Marshall. If you don't have Gregg Marshall or Calhoun, etc., you almost have to cheat to have a shot at the big prize.


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All 3 Houston fans are waiting for you in the parking lot...

He’s an idiot. I don’t think anyone takes what he says serious.

I don't ^^^
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(03-06-2018 07:29 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 04:41 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  I think Memphis has as high a ceiling in basketball and football as any school in the league.

Exactly. Any idea to the contrary is freaking dumb. We have state oif the art facilities either finished or coming online in both basketball and football, we have huge boosters who fund us to almost anything we need, we have an admin (finally) dedicated to being Top 25 in both sports, and we have a rabid fan base that's a bit nuts, but quite passionate.

As soon as there is any hope in basketball, attendance will skyrocket right back to the top of the AAC. And football looks positioned to be good to great for a long time.

I'm not going to argue that we are better positioned than UH or UCF, but we sure as hell don't have a lower ceiling.

I’m not saying you’re wrong but UH and UCF have an advantage in recruiting locally in some of the most talent rich areas in the country. That does not necessarily mean Memphis has a lower ceiling though.
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(03-06-2018 05:57 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  What is WSU ?

UHHHHHHH
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(03-06-2018 07:29 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 04:41 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  I think Memphis has as high a ceiling in basketball and football as any school in the league.

Exactly. Any idea to the contrary is freaking dumb. We have state oif the art facilities either finished or coming online in both basketball and football, we have huge boosters who fund us to almost anything we need, we have an admin (finally) dedicated to being Top 25 in both sports, and we have a rabid fan base that's a bit nuts, but quite passionate.

As soon as there is any hope in basketball, attendance will skyrocket right back to the top of the AAC. And football looks positioned to be good to great for a long time.

I'm not going to argue that we are better positioned than UH or UCF, but we sure as hell don't have a lower ceiling.

And when Penny and Larry Brown get the whole athletic department on probation and punishment because you're a multiple time offender not named North Carolina, what's the floor then?
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