Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
Author Message
Fo Shizzle Offline
Domestic Terrorist and Iconoclast
*

Posts: 35,008
Joined: Dec 2006
Reputation: 725
I Root For: ECU PIRATES
Location: North Carolina

Balance of Power Contest
Post: #41
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:30 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:50 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 09:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 07:41 AM)JTiger Wrote:  That's always the caveat. In politics with dictators it's often absent. We'll see but I certainly won't hold my breath.

History has proven NK pulls this nonsense every time it wants/needs something. It plays on the world's desire for peace but once it gets what it wants it's back to business as usual. I see no reason why this time will be any different.

Maybe Trump finally scared him enough to see that his path was no good.

Would explain his launching missiles every time Trump dares him to.

Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.

Or...He is an isolated dumb*** that has no clue how close his country is to being destroyed and his friends to the North sent someone his way to fill him in on his peril in regards to fcking with the US and disturbing their mutual interests? Just a thought.07-coffee3
03-07-2018 08:54 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Attackcoog Online
Moderator
*

Posts: 25,554
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 1076
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #42
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:30 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:50 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 09:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 07:41 AM)JTiger Wrote:  That's always the caveat. In politics with dictators it's often absent. We'll see but I certainly won't hold my breath.

History has proven NK pulls this nonsense every time it wants/needs something. It plays on the world's desire for peace but once it gets what it wants it's back to business as usual. I see no reason why this time will be any different.

Maybe Trump finally scared him enough to see that his path was no good.

Would explain his launching missiles every time Trump dares him to.

Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.

LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".

Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2018 12:57 PM by Attackcoog.)
03-08-2018 12:55 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Redwingtom Offline
Proud traitor.
*

Posts: 31,418
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 528
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Post: #43
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:30 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:50 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 09:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  History has proven NK pulls this nonsense every time it wants/needs something. It plays on the world's desire for peace but once it gets what it wants it's back to business as usual. I see no reason why this time will be any different.

Maybe Trump finally scared him enough to see that his path was no good.

Would explain his launching missiles every time Trump dares him to.

Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.

LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".

Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.

How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2018 01:10 PM by Redwingtom.)
03-08-2018 01:10 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
VA49er Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 19,514
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 334
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
Post: #44
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:30 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:50 AM)JTiger Wrote:  Maybe Trump finally scared him enough to see that his path was no good.

Would explain his launching missiles every time Trump dares him to.

Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.

LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".

Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.

How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.

lol, like NK wasn't going to do that anyway. Par for the course with them, no matter who was POTUS at the time.
03-08-2018 02:13 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Attackcoog Online
Moderator
*

Posts: 25,554
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 1076
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #45
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:30 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:50 AM)JTiger Wrote:  Maybe Trump finally scared him enough to see that his path was no good.

Would explain his launching missiles every time Trump dares him to.

Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.

LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".

Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.

How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.

Read the thread title.
03-08-2018 02:22 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Redwingtom Offline
Proud traitor.
*

Posts: 31,418
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 528
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Post: #46
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 02:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:30 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Would explain his launching missiles every time Trump dares him to.

Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.

LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".

Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.

How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.

Read the thread title.

Yeah....so? Show me some correlation. Else, you're just making a wild assumption with no basis in any fact. The changed nothing with their development and their testing. And you pretty much admitted (as is my belief) that their desires now are mainly due to the fact that they are finally in a legitimate state of strength like they've never been before.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2018 02:28 PM by Redwingtom.)
03-08-2018 02:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Owl 69/70/75 Online
Just an old rugby coach
*

Posts: 55,892
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 1130
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX

DonatorsNew Orleans Bowl
Post: #47
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:30 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 11:50 AM)JTiger Wrote:  Maybe Trump finally scared him enough to see that his path was no good.
Would explain his launching missiles every time Trump dares him to.
Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.
LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".
Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.
How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.

So if he had said nothing, they would have stopped their tests? Really?

How naive are you?
03-08-2018 04:22 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Redwingtom Offline
Proud traitor.
*

Posts: 31,418
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 528
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Post: #48
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 04:22 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:30 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Would explain his launching missiles every time Trump dares him to.
Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.
LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".
Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.
How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.

So if he had said nothing, they would have stopped their tests? Really?

How naive are you?

Not what I meant. Again, what has trump done to make things more and more difficult for NK? Nothing. They have continued to act as before...and your post shows that.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2018 04:26 PM by Redwingtom.)
03-08-2018 04:25 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Owl 69/70/75 Online
Just an old rugby coach
*

Posts: 55,892
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 1130
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX

DonatorsNew Orleans Bowl
Post: #49
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 04:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 04:22 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.
LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".
Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.
How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.

So if he had said nothing, they would have stopped their tests? Really?

How naive are you?

Not what I meant. Again, what has trump done to make things more and more difficult for NK? Nothing. They have continued to act as before...and your post shows that.

OK, so WTF did you mean? As far as what Trump has done, I would very sincerely hope that it is done back channel and there would be no way for me to have any clue unless I had my TS and access back, and even then I probably would not have need to know.

What I know is that we've seen more movement from them in the year plus that Trump has been in the white house, than we saw in who knows how many years before.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2018 04:31 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
03-08-2018 04:31 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
NIU007 Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,269
Joined: Sep 2004
Reputation: 207
I Root For: NIU, MAC
Location: Naperville, IL
Post: #50
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-07-2018 09:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 07:41 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:45 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:42 PM)JTiger Wrote:  This is and interesting development. If sincere, this is a good thing he is even wiling to talk without ridiculous demands.

Good luck with that.

That's always the caveat. In politics with dictators it's often absent. We'll see but I certainly won't hold my breath.

History has proven NK pulls this nonsense every time it wants/needs something. It plays on the world's desire for peace but once it gets what it wants it's back to business as usual. I see no reason why this time will be any different.

Yea that's pretty much it. We've been occasionally appeasing NK for decades now just to get him to temporarily stop his provocations.
03-08-2018 04:31 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Redwingtom Offline
Proud traitor.
*

Posts: 31,418
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 528
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Post: #51
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 04:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 04:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 04:22 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".
Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.
How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.

So if he had said nothing, they would have stopped their tests? Really?

How naive are you?

Not what I meant. Again, what has trump done to make things more and more difficult for NK? Nothing. They have continued to act as before...and your post shows that.

OK, so WTF did you mean? As far as what Trump has done, I would very sincerely hope that it is done back channel and there would be no way for me to have any clue unless I had my TS and access back, and even then I probably would not have need to know.

What I know is that we've seen more movement from them in the year plus that Trump has been in the white house, than we saw in who knows how many years before.

Yeah...and that proves nothing. And the history of the world's relationship with NK should tell you that taking any assumption as fact here is not wise. But hey...believe what you want. When I see or hear of anyone from the trump administration actually doing some credible diplomatic work here, then I'll give them credit.
03-08-2018 04:38 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Redwingtom Offline
Proud traitor.
*

Posts: 31,418
Joined: Dec 2003
Reputation: 528
I Root For: B-G-S-U !!!!
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Post: #52
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 04:31 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 09:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 07:41 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:45 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:42 PM)JTiger Wrote:  This is and interesting development. If sincere, this is a good thing he is even wiling to talk without ridiculous demands.

Good luck with that.

That's always the caveat. In politics with dictators it's often absent. We'll see but I certainly won't hold my breath.

History has proven NK pulls this nonsense every time it wants/needs something. It plays on the world's desire for peace but once it gets what it wants it's back to business as usual. I see no reason why this time will be any different.

Yea that's pretty much it. We've been occasionally appeasing NK for decades now just to get him to temporarily stop his provocations.

Because there's really no alternative. Nobody has the stomach for a ground war in Asia and we certainly can't launch a nuclear war either. At least rational folk feel this way. There's always a total idiot like John Bolton lurking about.
03-08-2018 04:40 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
NIU007 Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,269
Joined: Sep 2004
Reputation: 207
I Root For: NIU, MAC
Location: Naperville, IL
Post: #53
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 04:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 04:31 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 09:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 07:41 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:45 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Good luck with that.

That's always the caveat. In politics with dictators it's often absent. We'll see but I certainly won't hold my breath.

History has proven NK pulls this nonsense every time it wants/needs something. It plays on the world's desire for peace but once it gets what it wants it's back to business as usual. I see no reason why this time will be any different.

Yea that's pretty much it. We've been occasionally appeasing NK for decades now just to get him to temporarily stop his provocations.

Because there's really no alternative. Nobody has the stomach for a ground war in Asia and we certainly can't launch a nuclear war either. At least rational folk feel this way. There's always a total idiot like John Bolton lurking about.

Agree. Just pointing out that appeasement isn't always a dirty word.
03-08-2018 04:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Owl 69/70/75 Online
Just an old rugby coach
*

Posts: 55,892
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 1130
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX

DonatorsNew Orleans Bowl
Post: #54
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 04:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 04:31 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 04:25 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 04:22 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.

So if he had said nothing, they would have stopped their tests? Really?

How naive are you?

Not what I meant. Again, what has trump done to make things more and more difficult for NK? Nothing. They have continued to act as before...and your post shows that.

OK, so WTF did you mean? As far as what Trump has done, I would very sincerely hope that it is done back channel and there would be no way for me to have any clue unless I had my TS and access back, and even then I probably would not have need to know.

What I know is that we've seen more movement from them in the year plus that Trump has been in the white house, than we saw in who knows how many years before.

Yeah...and that proves nothing. And the history of the world's relationship with NK should tell you that taking any assumption as fact here is not wise. But hey...believe what you want. When I see or hear of anyone from the trump administration actually doing some credible diplomatic work here, then I'll give them credit.

When is the last time you saw or heard of anyone doing credible diplomatic work with respect to North Korea? Is that even a concept that exists?

Dennis Rodman?
03-08-2018 04:52 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Hambone10 Offline
Hooter
*

Posts: 30,402
Joined: Nov 2005
Reputation: 660
I Root For: My Kids
Location: Right Down th Middle

New Orleans BowlDonatorsThe Parliament Awards
Post: #55
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 04:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Nobody has the stomach for a ground war in Asia....

Okay, I have to admit that I pictured that scene from 'The Princess Bride' when I read this
03-08-2018 05:53 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Attackcoog Online
Moderator
*

Posts: 25,554
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 1076
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #56
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 02:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 02:22 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 01:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 12:55 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 02:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Exactly, this has far more to do with South Korea being more amiable along with NK finally having actual nuclear weapons capabilities than it does with the orange buffoon.

LOL. S Korea has been "amiable" for years. This has to do with two things. Trump has made it more and more difficult for N Korea. Two, the NK missile program is far enough advanced that it can give NK the leverage they think they need in any "negotiation".

Now, here is the reality. It doesnt matter. An agreement is only as good as it signees. Im EXTREMELY skeptical that this is anything other than a way to buy more time for the missile program to further develop. I simply dont believe Kims serious about nuclear disarmament and the nations track record would indicate that Im likely to be dead on correct. I suspect Trump knows this as well.

How? His rhetoric toward them only resulted in their defiance with more tests.

Read the thread title.

Yeah....so? Show me some correlation. Else, you're just making a wild assumption with no basis in any fact. The changed nothing with their development and their testing. And you pretty much admitted (as is my belief) that their desires now are mainly due to the fact that they are finally in a legitimate state of strength like they've never been before.

Frankly, I have no idea if being tough on NK will work. I only know that almost 3 decades of appeasement has failed to work. The strategy with NK has changed in the last year. So, we get tough and suddenly NK is saying they want to negotiate. Sounds like cause and affect to me.

That said---negotiations are worthless if they agreement is no better and no more enforced than previous deals. I believe there will be no real progress until NK takes a military set back. I hope it works out otherwise, but I see zero reason for optimism on that front.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2018 05:59 PM by Attackcoog.)
03-08-2018 05:57 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Attackcoog Online
Moderator
*

Posts: 25,554
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 1076
I Root For: Houston
Location:
Post: #57
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 04:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 04:31 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 09:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-07-2018 07:41 AM)JTiger Wrote:  
(03-06-2018 02:45 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Good luck with that.

That's always the caveat. In politics with dictators it's often absent. We'll see but I certainly won't hold my breath.

History has proven NK pulls this nonsense every time it wants/needs something. It plays on the world's desire for peace but once it gets what it wants it's back to business as usual. I see no reason why this time will be any different.

Yea that's pretty much it. We've been occasionally appeasing NK for decades now just to get him to temporarily stop his provocations.

Because there's really no alternative. Nobody has the stomach for a ground war in Asia and we certainly can't launch a nuclear war either. At least rational folk feel this way. There's always a total idiot like John Bolton lurking about.

Exactly. What does KJI want? He wants to continue to rule NK. The moment he invades the south or launches a nuke at the US mainland, his rule is over. That said, there is zero reason for NK to stop pushing until the US actually pushes back.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2018 06:03 PM by Attackcoog.)
03-08-2018 06:03 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
bullet Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,213
Joined: Apr 2012
Reputation: 639
I Root For: Texas, UK, UGA
Location:
Post: #58
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-06-2018 03:03 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Fat Boy probably needs some food for his starving country. But yeah I would trust anything he says.

I wouldn't either. But maybe he wants shiny new toys and he can't get them while making nukes.
03-08-2018 07:38 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Paul M Offline
American-American
*

Posts: 20,685
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 589
I Root For: OU
Location: Next to Boomer
Post: #59
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
Buying time. Nothing more.
03-08-2018 07:39 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
bullet Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,213
Joined: Apr 2012
Reputation: 639
I Root For: Texas, UK, UGA
Location:
Post: #60
RE: North Korea Says It Is Open to Talks With U.S. About Abandoning Nuclear Weapons
(03-08-2018 07:39 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Buying time. Nothing more.

Trying to wait out Trump so he can get another Obama?

Maybe.

But then again, maybe Trump has gotten China to turn up the screws and its beginning to hurt.
03-08-2018 07:43 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2018 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2018 MyBB Group.