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7 Democrats asked to resign for connections with extremist
What comes around goes around. Nice to see the left getting a taste of its own medicine. Conservatives have been pounded for far less of a connection to extremists. (thought I had seen something about this elsewhere, but didn't locate it with a quick search).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republica...d=53601481

The Republican Jewish Coalition is calling for the resignation of seven Democratic members of Congress whom it claims are "connected" to controversial Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. The group describes him as a "known anti-Semite."
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Farrakhan has routinely spoke disparagingly about Jews over the years, as well as white people, in general. He was thrust into the mainstream spotlight again this week after excerpts from a speech he gave last week on the Nation of Islam's Saviour's Day surfaced online. During the speech, he once again described Jewish people -- who he says "are my enemy" -- in a pejorative manner.
The lobbying group on Tuesday called for the following lawmakers to step down: Reps. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.; Barbara Lee, D-Calif.; Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; Danny Davis, D-Ill.; Andre Carson, D-Ind.; Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.; and Al Green, D-Texas.
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Democrats can be Racist too.
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(03-08-2018 08:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  What comes around goes around. Nice to see the left getting a taste of its own medicine. Conservatives have been pounded for far less of a connection to extremists. (thought I had seen something about this elsewhere, but didn't locate it with a quick search).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republica...d=53601481

The Republican Jewish Coalition is calling for the resignation of seven Democratic members of Congress whom it claims are "connected" to controversial Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. The group describes him as a "known anti-Semite."
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Farrakhan has routinely spoke disparagingly about Jews over the years, as well as white people, in general. He was thrust into the mainstream spotlight again this week after excerpts from a speech he gave last week on the Nation of Islam's Saviour's Day surfaced online. During the speech, he once again described Jewish people -- who he says "are my enemy" -- in a pejorative manner.
The lobbying group on Tuesday called for the following lawmakers to step down: Reps. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.; Barbara Lee, D-Calif.; Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; Danny Davis, D-Ill.; Andre Carson, D-Ind.; Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.; and Al Green, D-Texas.

How many white peoples in the Nation of Islam?
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Big whoop...many Republicans have asked trump to resign.
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LOL. Davis? Sure, go after him. The others? Not really tied to the NOI.

I do note that their list includes the only two Muslim members of Congress.

And basically, the RJC appears to be Sheldon Adelson's hip pocket lobbying group.

I will note that they mildly criticized Trump for his vile Charlottesville response, but still retains their support.

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Perhaps, a proportional response would be to criticize those who meet with the NOI, just like the RJC has to Trump and to persons like Matt Gaetz (R-FL) over consorting with anti-semites/providing cover to them.

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But outrage? Davis? Sure. But he's no worse that Gaetz.

As far as the others go...

I'll be outraged about the others right after you guys go after every member that speaks to an equally repugnant organization, the Family Research Council, which like the NOI, is a religious based group that supports demonization of others and supports religious based laws targeting others.

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I file most of this under, 'meh', no different than politicians talking to the FRC.
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(03-08-2018 08:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  What comes around goes around. Nice to see the left getting a taste of its own medicine. Conservatives have been pounded for far less of a connection to extremists. (thought I had seen something about this elsewhere, but didn't locate it with a quick search).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republica...d=53601481

The Republican Jewish Coalition is calling for the resignation of seven Democratic members of Congress whom it claims are "connected" to controversial Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. The group describes him as a "known anti-Semite."
Interested in Democratic Party?
Farrakhan has routinely spoke disparagingly about Jews over the years, as well as white people, in general. He was thrust into the mainstream spotlight again this week after excerpts from a speech he gave last week on the Nation of Islam's Saviour's Day surfaced online. During the speech, he once again described Jewish people -- who he says "are my enemy" -- in a pejorative manner.
The lobbying group on Tuesday called for the following lawmakers to step down: Reps. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.; Barbara Lee, D-Calif.; Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; Danny Davis, D-Ill.; Andre Carson, D-Ind.; Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.; and Al Green, D-Texas.

Sucks when you play the 6 degrees of separation is enough to ruin you and it comes back to bite them on the backside.

Imagine the horror the MSM and their lefty overlords would experience there was a list of prominent Republicans who had a similar "relationship" with David Duke for example.......
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(03-08-2018 10:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Big whoop...many Republicans have asked trump to resign.

So we agree... the next time a republican says Trump should resign you'll say "Big whoop"...
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(03-08-2018 11:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 08:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  What comes around goes around. Nice to see the left getting a taste of its own medicine. Conservatives have been pounded for far less of a connection to extremists. (thought I had seen something about this elsewhere, but didn't locate it with a quick search).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republica...d=53601481

The Republican Jewish Coalition is calling for the resignation of seven Democratic members of Congress whom it claims are "connected" to controversial Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. The group describes him as a "known anti-Semite."
Interested in Democratic Party?
Farrakhan has routinely spoke disparagingly about Jews over the years, as well as white people, in general. He was thrust into the mainstream spotlight again this week after excerpts from a speech he gave last week on the Nation of Islam's Saviour's Day surfaced online. During the speech, he once again described Jewish people -- who he says "are my enemy" -- in a pejorative manner.
The lobbying group on Tuesday called for the following lawmakers to step down: Reps. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.; Barbara Lee, D-Calif.; Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; Danny Davis, D-Ill.; Andre Carson, D-Ind.; Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.; and Al Green, D-Texas.

Sucks when you play the 6 degrees of separation is enough to ruin you and it comes back to bite them on the backside.

Imagine the horror the MSM and their lefty overlords would experience there was a list of prominent Republicans who had a similar "relationship" with David Duke for example.......

LOL. Lots of people meet with Family Research Council/Tony Perkins, and yes we criticize them for doing so. Your side doesn't. Sure, I'll criticize anyone who retains ties to the NOI too.

If Ellison has to go, then so do about 100 GOP (and a couple of Democrats) members of Congress for meeting with a similar hate group.

So what's the difference between the NOI and FRC anyway? That one is a Muslim extremist hate group and the other is a Christian extremist hate group. And there are a lot more ties from MANY elected to the FRC that are direct and ongoing than there are with elected and the NOI.
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Not the party of JFK anymore.
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(03-08-2018 11:26 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 11:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 08:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  What comes around goes around. Nice to see the left getting a taste of its own medicine. Conservatives have been pounded for far less of a connection to extremists. (thought I had seen something about this elsewhere, but didn't locate it with a quick search).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republica...d=53601481

The Republican Jewish Coalition is calling for the resignation of seven Democratic members of Congress whom it claims are "connected" to controversial Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. The group describes him as a "known anti-Semite."
Interested in Democratic Party?
Farrakhan has routinely spoke disparagingly about Jews over the years, as well as white people, in general. He was thrust into the mainstream spotlight again this week after excerpts from a speech he gave last week on the Nation of Islam's Saviour's Day surfaced online. During the speech, he once again described Jewish people -- who he says "are my enemy" -- in a pejorative manner.
The lobbying group on Tuesday called for the following lawmakers to step down: Reps. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.; Barbara Lee, D-Calif.; Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; Danny Davis, D-Ill.; Andre Carson, D-Ind.; Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.; and Al Green, D-Texas.

Sucks when you play the 6 degrees of separation is enough to ruin you and it comes back to bite them on the backside.

Imagine the horror the MSM and their lefty overlords would experience there was a list of prominent Republicans who had a similar "relationship" with David Duke for example.......

LOL. Lots of people meet with Family Research Council/Tony Perkins, and yes we criticize them for doing so. Your side doesn't. Sure, I'll criticize anyone who retains ties to the NOI too.

If Ellison has to go, then so do about 100 GOP (and a couple of Democrats) members of Congress for meeting with a similar hate group.

So what's the difference between the NOI and FRC anyway? That one is a Muslim extremist hate group and the other is a Christian extremist hate group. And there are a lot more ties from MANY elected to the FRC that are direct and ongoing than there are with elected and the NOI.

OK, YOU might criticize, but I don't exactly see the talking heads on CNN or BSDNC doing the same, so please don't think that the left is taking the high road on such matters.

As far as the FRC goes, I think there's a difference between having an opposing viewpoint on something like homosexuality and advocating hate and violence. While I personally don't agree with them, I don't automatically call it "hate" when a person of faith decides to take a more literal interpretation of their scripture. It wasn't until just recently that opinions changed on gay rights and gay marriage. Just because they don't subscribe to the belief that it's OK doesn't mean "hate". That's a common tactic of the left, disagree and it's "hate". Perfect example, people can have legitimate issues and concerns with transgenders and bathrooms. It's NOT "hate" even though many on the left automatically label it as such.

Taking issue with someone is one thing, even disliking someone for who they are is another, but that is a far cry from advocating violence.
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(03-08-2018 11:22 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 10:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Big whoop...many Republicans have asked trump to resign.

So we agree... the next time a republican says Trump should resign you'll say "Big whoop"...

My "Big Whoop" was directed at this thread, not the asking to resign.
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(03-08-2018 10:07 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Democrats can be Racist too.

Yeah, but not if you ask a Democrat.
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(03-08-2018 11:26 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 11:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 08:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  What comes around goes around. Nice to see the left getting a taste of its own medicine. Conservatives have been pounded for far less of a connection to extremists. (thought I had seen something about this elsewhere, but didn't locate it with a quick search).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republica...d=53601481

The Republican Jewish Coalition is calling for the resignation of seven Democratic members of Congress whom it claims are "connected" to controversial Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. The group describes him as a "known anti-Semite."
Interested in Democratic Party?
Farrakhan has routinely spoke disparagingly about Jews over the years, as well as white people, in general. He was thrust into the mainstream spotlight again this week after excerpts from a speech he gave last week on the Nation of Islam's Saviour's Day surfaced online. During the speech, he once again described Jewish people -- who he says "are my enemy" -- in a pejorative manner.
The lobbying group on Tuesday called for the following lawmakers to step down: Reps. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.; Barbara Lee, D-Calif.; Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; Danny Davis, D-Ill.; Andre Carson, D-Ind.; Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.; and Al Green, D-Texas.

Sucks when you play the 6 degrees of separation is enough to ruin you and it comes back to bite them on the backside.

Imagine the horror the MSM and their lefty overlords would experience there was a list of prominent Republicans who had a similar "relationship" with David Duke for example.......

LOL. Lots of people meet with Family Research Council/Tony Perkins, and yes we criticize them for doing so. Your side doesn't. Sure, I'll criticize anyone who retains ties to the NOI too.

If Ellison has to go, then so do about 100 GOP (and a couple of Democrats) members of Congress for meeting with a similar hate group.

So what's the difference between the NOI and FRC anyway? That one is a Muslim extremist hate group and the other is a Christian extremist hate group. And there are a lot more ties from MANY elected to the FRC that are direct and ongoing than there are with elected and the NOI.

That's where you're diving off the deep end. Family Research Council is a whole lot different than Farrakahn and his anti-semitism.
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(03-08-2018 10:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Big whoop...many Republicans have asked trump to resign.


Good point.

How many dims will ask the anti-Semite sympathizers to resign?

Have they no shame?
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I wish Democrats didn't insult my intelligence with their transparent attempts to hide or dismiss the Nation of Islam's rabid Jew-hate within the noble cloak of political disagreement and/or whataboutism.
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(03-08-2018 02:00 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I wish Democrats didn't insult my intelligence with their transparent attempts to hide or dismiss the Nation of Islam's rabid Jew-hate within the noble cloak of political disagreement and/or whataboutism.

I don't get it either. He certainly can't bring that big of a voting bloc with him can he?
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(03-08-2018 02:00 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I wish Democrats didn't insult my intelligence with their transparent attempts to hide or dismiss the Nation of Islam's rabid Jew-hate within the noble cloak of political disagreement and/or whataboutism.

I don't get it either. He certainly can't bring that big of a voting bloc with him can he?

FWIW, I only know about Elison. His district would go even farther left if it could and the Jewish faith is few and far between up here in South Canada. So between those two realities I just don't think anti-semitism is a hot political button in Minnesota.

However if you told me Elison didn't get the DNC top-dog post because of his relationship with NOI, I wouldn't be surprised.
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(03-08-2018 12:01 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 11:26 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 11:21 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 08:48 AM)bullet Wrote:  What comes around goes around. Nice to see the left getting a taste of its own medicine. Conservatives have been pounded for far less of a connection to extremists. (thought I had seen something about this elsewhere, but didn't locate it with a quick search).

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/republica...d=53601481

The Republican Jewish Coalition is calling for the resignation of seven Democratic members of Congress whom it claims are "connected" to controversial Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. The group describes him as a "known anti-Semite."
Interested in Democratic Party?
Farrakhan has routinely spoke disparagingly about Jews over the years, as well as white people, in general. He was thrust into the mainstream spotlight again this week after excerpts from a speech he gave last week on the Nation of Islam's Saviour's Day surfaced online. During the speech, he once again described Jewish people -- who he says "are my enemy" -- in a pejorative manner.
The lobbying group on Tuesday called for the following lawmakers to step down: Reps. Keith Ellison, D-Minn.; Barbara Lee, D-Calif.; Maxine Waters, D-Calif.; Danny Davis, D-Ill.; Andre Carson, D-Ind.; Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.; and Al Green, D-Texas.

Sucks when you play the 6 degrees of separation is enough to ruin you and it comes back to bite them on the backside.

Imagine the horror the MSM and their lefty overlords would experience there was a list of prominent Republicans who had a similar "relationship" with David Duke for example.......

LOL. Lots of people meet with Family Research Council/Tony Perkins, and yes we criticize them for doing so. Your side doesn't. Sure, I'll criticize anyone who retains ties to the NOI too.

If Ellison has to go, then so do about 100 GOP (and a couple of Democrats) members of Congress for meeting with a similar hate group.

So what's the difference between the NOI and FRC anyway? That one is a Muslim extremist hate group and the other is a Christian extremist hate group. And there are a lot more ties from MANY elected to the FRC that are direct and ongoing than there are with elected and the NOI.

OK, YOU might criticize, but I don't exactly see the talking heads on CNN or BSDNC doing the same, so please don't think that the left is taking the high road on such matters.

As far as the FRC goes, I think there's a difference between having an opposing viewpoint on something like homosexuality and advocating hate and violence. While I personally don't agree with them, I don't automatically call it "hate" when a person of faith decides to take a more literal interpretation of their scripture. It wasn't until just recently that opinions changed on gay rights and gay marriage. Just because they don't subscribe to the belief that it's OK doesn't mean "hate". That's a common tactic of the left, disagree and it's "hate". Perfect example, people can have legitimate issues and concerns with transgenders and bathrooms. It's NOT "hate" even though many on the left automatically label it as such.

Taking issue with someone is one thing, even disliking someone for who they are is another, but that is a far cry from advocating violence.

Uh, the FRC spent tens of thousands of dollars actively lobbying against condemnation of legislation that mandated the DEATH PENALTY for Gay people. I have more examples too.

Basically, the FRC is involved, financially in protecting people advocating rounding up all Gay people and jailing and even killing them for the crime of existence. Tony Perkins, the FRC leader, has had financial interactions with David Duke too.

FRC is absolutely as bad as the NOI. The FRC is just mostly white and professes Christianity as a basis for their advocacy of civil penalties for being LGBT. The NOI is mostly black and professes Islam as a basis for its advocacy of the same. Both groups insult and demean minorities they disagree with and do so in horrendous ways. Both are equally repugnant. If you excuse one but not the other, you're not really condemning the people involved because you're upset with the advocacy, but rather simply to advance a political agenda.
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(03-08-2018 02:08 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-08-2018 02:00 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I wish Democrats didn't insult my intelligence with their transparent attempts to hide or dismiss the Nation of Islam's rabid Jew-hate within the noble cloak of political disagreement and/or whataboutism.

I don't get it either. He certainly can't bring that big of a voting bloc with him can he?

FWIW, I only know about Elison. His district would go even farther left if it could and the Jewish faith is few and far between up here in South Canada. So between those two realities I just don't think anti-semitism is a hot political button in Minnesota.

However if you told me Elison didn't get the DNC top-dog post because of his relationship with NOI, I wouldn't be surprised.

Ellison certainly doesn't vote like a religious extremist, that's for sure.

BTW, Huffington Post is directly calling out Davis. As they should. But I fail to see how the NOI is any worse than the FRC.
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Like I said in the thread yesterday, the Nation of Islam is like the Klan. A paper boogeyman. No real threat.

What should be called out is the cozy relationship between a real supporter of terrorist organizations like CAIR and the DNC.
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