(03-16-2018 10:58 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  Is this a fair summary of financials:
SBC
- gets $500k, but will be out some production $s. Those production $s may or may not be significant
- no additional inventory to sell for revenue

CUSA
- gets $400k from new contract. Pays $0 for production.
- gets $s from BeIn for 1 more year
- there is a lot of inventory that can still be sold for revenue and ESPN is still in play, but likely not BeIn

The above seems like a net improvement for CUSA and will result in more TV $s than SBC. True? False?

All true but the payouts, none of that has been confirmed. The only site I have seen that suggests 500K per year for the belt schools is sbnation (go figure)................not that it matters a ton. Another is we aren't done negotiating fully with ESPN and have another year of BeIn. I expect BeIn to be re-upped and stadium to pick up more games as the season progresses like they usually do. Will the last 3 "partners" amount to much more $$, who knows. We aren't even sure 400K is what we are getting either, just assumed.

If all of this is true and numbers are correct, what does it boil down to:

1. Sunbelt schools get bragging rights for initial gains
2. Sunbelt schools losing money at the live gate for mid week contests costs each school revenue, on top of paying production costs which equals more body bag games to make up the difference.
3. CUSA schools lose bragging rights, if that matters
4. All of initial gains are pocketed due to no production costs from main partner.
5. The schools that traditionally attend well will keep a good live gate due to few midweek games.

Forecast is (if this is all set in stone), a few sunbelt schools will ascend because they are already set up for covering production costs to keep it to a minimum. Those schools will have an advantage over the other schools in their conference, which means unequal ground.
CUSA schools will all be on equal ground, as it pertains to media revenue. This is a positive overall for most schools. Live gate matters more than these low balled media deals, so schools need to sell their product or enhance their product so it can be sold, that part is up to them. Schools like Marshall and USM used to be a 30K average attendance school, they need to return to that to prosper. Hell UTEP once was a leader of attendance, somehow needs to figure it out and get back to it. Live gate will matter in who survives the NCAA monopoly and who doesn't.

(03-16-2018 11:13 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:08 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 06:35 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 09:03 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  Does anyone have a link to the 500k for the Sun Belt tv deal?

It's a made up number. They were making $100k. Now it's $500k? They quintupled their media income. No easy trick.

The only number I’ve seen is the quote from the article where they throw a cheap jab at I assume towards the Sun Belt.


“A league might say they have a $10 million deal with ESPN,” he said. “What they don’t tell you is $9 million is sent back to ESPN in production costs. So they actually have a $1 million deal with ESPN.”

So 1 million divided by 10 universities = $100,000 each.

But $10M / 10 schools != $500k

Interesting math they got over there.

(03-16-2018 11:18 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:13 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:08 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 06:35 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 09:03 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  Does anyone have a link to the 500k for the Sun Belt tv deal?

It's a made up number. They were making $100k. Now it's $500k? They quintupled their media income. No easy trick.

The only number I’ve seen is the quote from the article where they throw a cheap jab at I assume towards the Sun Belt.


“A league might say they have a $10 million deal with ESPN,” he said. “What they don’t tell you is $9 million is sent back to ESPN in production costs. So they actually have a $1 million deal with ESPN.”

So 1 million divided by 10 universities = $100,000 each.

But $10M / 10 schools != $500k

Interesting math they got over there.

I think that was a reference to the MAC deal from a few years ago.

(03-16-2018 11:28 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:18 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:13 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:08 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 06:35 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  It's a made up number. They were making $100k. Now it's $500k? They quintupled their media income. No easy trick.

The only number I’ve seen is the quote from the article where they throw a cheap jab at I assume towards the Sun Belt.


“A league might say they have a $10 million deal with ESPN,” he said. “What they don’t tell you is $9 million is sent back to ESPN in production costs. So they actually have a $1 million deal with ESPN.”

So 1 million divided by 10 universities = $100,000 each.

But $10M / 10 schools != $500k

Interesting math they got over there.

I think that was a reference to the MAC deal from a few years ago.

That could be it. As MinerInWisconsin alluded to if that figure of 500,000 is accurate then the SB would be jumping up and down with joy shouting it from rooftops. We doubled our tv revenue and several CUSA city newspaper have jumped on that story. Why wouldn’t SB newspapers publish a 400% increase in tv rights?

(03-16-2018 11:18 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 10:58 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  Is this a fair summary of financials:
SBC
- gets $500k, but will be out some production $s. Those production $s may or may not be significant
- no additional inventory to sell for revenue

CUSA
- gets $400k from new contract. Pays $0 for production.
- gets $s from BeIn for 1 more year
- there is a lot of inventory that can still be sold for revenue and ESPN is still in play, but likely not BeIn

The above seems like a net improvement for CUSA and will result in more TV $s than SBC. True? False?

All true but the payouts, none of that has been confirmed. The only site I have seen that suggests 500K per year for the belt schools is sbnation (go figure)................not that it matters a ton. Another is we aren't done negotiating fully with ESPN and have another year of BeIn. I expect BeIn to be re-upped and stadium to pick up more games as the season progresses like they usually do. Will the last 3 "partners" amount to much more $$, who knows. We aren't even sure 400K is what we are getting either, just assumed.

If all of this is true and numbers are correct, what does it boil down to:

1. Sunbelt schools get bragging rights for initial gains
2. Sunbelt schools losing money at the live gate for mid week contests costs each school revenue, on top of paying production costs which equals more body bag games to make up the difference.
3. CUSA schools lose bragging rights, if that matters
4. All of initial gains are pocketed due to no production costs from main partner.
5. The schools that traditionally attend well will keep a good live gate due to few midweek games.

Forecast is (if this is all set in stone), a few sunbelt schools will ascend because they are already set up for covering production costs to keep it to a minimum. Those schools will have an advantage over the other schools in their conference, which means unequal ground.
CUSA schools will all be on equal ground, as it pertains to media revenue. This is a positive overall for most schools. Live gate matters more than these low balled media deals, so schools need to sell their product or enhance their product so it can be sold, that part is up to them. Schools like Marshall and USM used to be a 30K average attendance school, they need to return to that to prosper. Hell UTEP once was a leader of attendance, somehow needs to figure it out and get back to it. Live gate will matter in who survives the NCAA monopoly and who doesn't.

But... If CUSA is still negotiating with ESPN, I assume as CBSSN has the best games, the best CUSA will get is ESPN+. So now CUSA fans are on the hook to have to have access to beIN, CBSSN, CUSA network, plus the extra $5 a month for ESPN+?

(03-16-2018 11:45 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:18 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 10:58 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  Is this a fair summary of financials:
SBC
- gets $500k, but will be out some production $s. Those production $s may or may not be significant
- no additional inventory to sell for revenue

CUSA
- gets $400k from new contract. Pays $0 for production.
- gets $s from BeIn for 1 more year
- there is a lot of inventory that can still be sold for revenue and ESPN is still in play, but likely not BeIn

The above seems like a net improvement for CUSA and will result in more TV $s than SBC. True? False?

All true but the payouts, none of that has been confirmed. The only site I have seen that suggests 500K per year for the belt schools is sbnation (go figure)................not that it matters a ton. Another is we aren't done negotiating fully with ESPN and have another year of BeIn. I expect BeIn to be re-upped and stadium to pick up more games as the season progresses like they usually do. Will the last 3 "partners" amount to much more $$, who knows. We aren't even sure 400K is what we are getting either, just assumed.

If all of this is true and numbers are correct, what does it boil down to:

1. Sunbelt schools get bragging rights for initial gains
2. Sunbelt schools losing money at the live gate for mid week contests costs each school revenue, on top of paying production costs which equals more body bag games to make up the difference.
3. CUSA schools lose bragging rights, if that matters
4. All of initial gains are pocketed due to no production costs from main partner.
5. The schools that traditionally attend well will keep a good live gate due to few midweek games.

Forecast is (if this is all set in stone), a few sunbelt schools will ascend because they are already set up for covering production costs to keep it to a minimum. Those schools will have an advantage over the other schools in their conference, which means unequal ground.
CUSA schools will all be on equal ground, as it pertains to media revenue. This is a positive overall for most schools. Live gate matters more than these low balled media deals, so schools need to sell their product or enhance their product so it can be sold, that part is up to them. Schools like Marshall and USM used to be a 30K average attendance school, they need to return to that to prosper. Hell UTEP once was a leader of attendance, somehow needs to figure it out and get back to it. Live gate will matter in who survives the NCAA monopoly and who doesn't.

But... If CUSA is still negotiating with ESPN, I assume as CBSSN has the best games, the best CUSA will get is ESPN+. So now CUSA fans are on the hook to have to have access to beIN, CBSSN, CUSA network, plus the extra $5 a month for ESPN+?

Good point. However, I'm a USM fan who lives in VA, so I'll gladly pay $5/month extra to see them play.

(03-16-2018 11:45 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:18 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 10:58 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  Is this a fair summary of financials:
SBC
- gets $500k, but will be out some production $s. Those production $s may or may not be significant
- no additional inventory to sell for revenue

CUSA
- gets $400k from new contract. Pays $0 for production.
- gets $s from BeIn for 1 more year
- there is a lot of inventory that can still be sold for revenue and ESPN is still in play, but likely not BeIn

The above seems like a net improvement for CUSA and will result in more TV $s than SBC. True? False?

All true but the payouts, none of that has been confirmed. The only site I have seen that suggests 500K per year for the belt schools is sbnation (go figure)................not that it matters a ton. Another is we aren't done negotiating fully with ESPN and have another year of BeIn. I expect BeIn to be re-upped and stadium to pick up more games as the season progresses like they usually do. Will the last 3 "partners" amount to much more $$, who knows. We aren't even sure 400K is what we are getting either, just assumed.

If all of this is true and numbers are correct, what does it boil down to:

1. Sunbelt schools get bragging rights for initial gains
2. Sunbelt schools losing money at the live gate for mid week contests costs each school revenue, on top of paying production costs which equals more body bag games to make up the difference.
3. CUSA schools lose bragging rights, if that matters
4. All of initial gains are pocketed due to no production costs from main partner.
5. The schools that traditionally attend well will keep a good live gate due to few midweek games.

Forecast is (if this is all set in stone), a few sunbelt schools will ascend because they are already set up for covering production costs to keep it to a minimum. Those schools will have an advantage over the other schools in their conference, which means unequal ground.
CUSA schools will all be on equal ground, as it pertains to media revenue. This is a positive overall for most schools. Live gate matters more than these low balled media deals, so schools need to sell their product or enhance their product so it can be sold, that part is up to them. Schools like Marshall and USM used to be a 30K average attendance school, they need to return to that to prosper. Hell UTEP once was a leader of attendance, somehow needs to figure it out and get back to it. Live gate will matter in who survives the NCAA monopoly and who doesn't.

But... If CUSA is still negotiating with ESPN, I assume as CBSSN has the best games, the best CUSA will get is ESPN+. So now CUSA fans are on the hook to have to have access to beIN, CBSSN, CUSA network, plus the extra $5 a month for ESPN+?

Yes, no, maybe. We don't know. Some CUSA schools are already upgraded as well, so they may be for the ESPN+ idea for some of the remaining inventory, maybe that's what they are negotiating, or maybe they are telling ESPN they can have the content for free so as long as the school doesn't pay production rights, who knows (basically what we told them last go around to take some content, but with CBS cherry picking the better games, I am going to say this is for ESPN+ ONLY, maybe ESPN U/News broadcasts. BeIn, as far as I know, doesn't make us pay production rights, but then again we didn't ask them to pay hefty fees either. Same goes for Stadium which bought ASN, pretty sure it was free content, but not 100% sure. BeIn was basically a pilot for us, to test. Stadium (campus insiders+ASN) was confusing, mainly because CI was a pilot as well since they were new, but when stadium bought them, that all changed.

(03-16-2018 11:52 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:45 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:18 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 10:58 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  Is this a fair summary of financials:
SBC
- gets $500k, but will be out some production $s. Those production $s may or may not be significant
- no additional inventory to sell for revenue

CUSA
- gets $400k from new contract. Pays $0 for production.
- gets $s from BeIn for 1 more year
- there is a lot of inventory that can still be sold for revenue and ESPN is still in play, but likely not BeIn

The above seems like a net improvement for CUSA and will result in more TV $s than SBC. True? False?

All true but the payouts, none of that has been confirmed. The only site I have seen that suggests 500K per year for the belt schools is sbnation (go figure)................not that it matters a ton. Another is we aren't done negotiating fully with ESPN and have another year of BeIn. I expect BeIn to be re-upped and stadium to pick up more games as the season progresses like they usually do. Will the last 3 "partners" amount to much more $$, who knows. We aren't even sure 400K is what we are getting either, just assumed.

If all of this is true and numbers are correct, what does it boil down to:

1. Sunbelt schools get bragging rights for initial gains
2. Sunbelt schools losing money at the live gate for mid week contests costs each school revenue, on top of paying production costs which equals more body bag games to make up the difference.
3. CUSA schools lose bragging rights, if that matters
4. All of initial gains are pocketed due to no production costs from main partner.
5. The schools that traditionally attend well will keep a good live gate due to few midweek games.

Forecast is (if this is all set in stone), a few sunbelt schools will ascend because they are already set up for covering production costs to keep it to a minimum. Those schools will have an advantage over the other schools in their conference, which means unequal ground.
CUSA schools will all be on equal ground, as it pertains to media revenue. This is a positive overall for most schools. Live gate matters more than these low balled media deals, so schools need to sell their product or enhance their product so it can be sold, that part is up to them. Schools like Marshall and USM used to be a 30K average attendance school, they need to return to that to prosper. Hell UTEP once was a leader of attendance, somehow needs to figure it out and get back to it. Live gate will matter in who survives the NCAA monopoly and who doesn't.

But... If CUSA is still negotiating with ESPN, I assume as CBSSN has the best games, the best CUSA will get is ESPN+. So now CUSA fans are on the hook to have to have access to beIN, CBSSN, CUSA network, plus the extra $5 a month for ESPN+?

Good point. However, I'm a USM fan who lives in VA, so I'll gladly pay $5/month extra to see them play.

For sure. And it beats $10/month to CUSATV

(03-16-2018 12:24 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:52 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:45 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:18 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 10:58 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  Is this a fair summary of financials:
SBC
- gets $500k, but will be out some production $s. Those production $s may or may not be significant
- no additional inventory to sell for revenue

CUSA
- gets $400k from new contract. Pays $0 for production.
- gets $s from BeIn for 1 more year
- there is a lot of inventory that can still be sold for revenue and ESPN is still in play, but likely not BeIn

The above seems like a net improvement for CUSA and will result in more TV $s than SBC. True? False?

All true but the payouts, none of that has been confirmed. The only site I have seen that suggests 500K per year for the belt schools is sbnation (go figure)................not that it matters a ton. Another is we aren't done negotiating fully with ESPN and have another year of BeIn. I expect BeIn to be re-upped and stadium to pick up more games as the season progresses like they usually do. Will the last 3 "partners" amount to much more $$, who knows. We aren't even sure 400K is what we are getting either, just assumed.

If all of this is true and numbers are correct, what does it boil down to:

1. Sunbelt schools get bragging rights for initial gains
2. Sunbelt schools losing money at the live gate for mid week contests costs each school revenue, on top of paying production costs which equals more body bag games to make up the difference.
3. CUSA schools lose bragging rights, if that matters
4. All of initial gains are pocketed due to no production costs from main partner.
5. The schools that traditionally attend well will keep a good live gate due to few midweek games.

Forecast is (if this is all set in stone), a few sunbelt schools will ascend because they are already set up for covering production costs to keep it to a minimum. Those schools will have an advantage over the other schools in their conference, which means unequal ground.
CUSA schools will all be on equal ground, as it pertains to media revenue. This is a positive overall for most schools. Live gate matters more than these low balled media deals, so schools need to sell their product or enhance their product so it can be sold, that part is up to them. Schools like Marshall and USM used to be a 30K average attendance school, they need to return to that to prosper. Hell UTEP once was a leader of attendance, somehow needs to figure it out and get back to it. Live gate will matter in who survives the NCAA monopoly and who doesn't.

But... If CUSA is still negotiating with ESPN, I assume as CBSSN has the best games, the best CUSA will get is ESPN+. So now CUSA fans are on the hook to have to have access to beIN, CBSSN, CUSA network, plus the extra $5 a month for ESPN+?

Good point. However, I'm a USM fan who lives in VA, so I'll gladly pay $5/month extra to see them play.

For sure. And it beats $10/month to CUSATV

For sure, but I think what the Georgia Southern poster was referring to was incurring cost to produce those ESPN+ games. If I am reading him right. I wouldn't imagine that CUSA admin, athletic directors would be ok gaining money through a not too bad deal, just to give it away for a pay per view deal with ESPN. That is the part I am assuming they are negotiating about with ESPN, just me thinking out loud here.

(03-16-2018 12:33 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 12:24 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:52 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:45 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:18 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  All true but the payouts, none of that has been confirmed. The only site I have seen that suggests 500K per year for the belt schools is sbnation (go figure)................not that it matters a ton. Another is we aren't done negotiating fully with ESPN and have another year of BeIn. I expect BeIn to be re-upped and stadium to pick up more games as the season progresses like they usually do. Will the last 3 "partners" amount to much more $$, who knows. We aren't even sure 400K is what we are getting either, just assumed.

If all of this is true and numbers are correct, what does it boil down to:

1. Sunbelt schools get bragging rights for initial gains
2. Sunbelt schools losing money at the live gate for mid week contests costs each school revenue, on top of paying production costs which equals more body bag games to make up the difference.
3. CUSA schools lose bragging rights, if that matters
4. All of initial gains are pocketed due to no production costs from main partner.
5. The schools that traditionally attend well will keep a good live gate due to few midweek games.

Forecast is (if this is all set in stone), a few sunbelt schools will ascend because they are already set up for covering production costs to keep it to a minimum. Those schools will have an advantage over the other schools in their conference, which means unequal ground.
CUSA schools will all be on equal ground, as it pertains to media revenue. This is a positive overall for most schools. Live gate matters more than these low balled media deals, so schools need to sell their product or enhance their product so it can be sold, that part is up to them. Schools like Marshall and USM used to be a 30K average attendance school, they need to return to that to prosper. Hell UTEP once was a leader of attendance, somehow needs to figure it out and get back to it. Live gate will matter in who survives the NCAA monopoly and who doesn't.

But... If CUSA is still negotiating with ESPN, I assume as CBSSN has the best games, the best CUSA will get is ESPN+. So now CUSA fans are on the hook to have to have access to beIN, CBSSN, CUSA network, plus the extra $5 a month for ESPN+?

Good point. However, I'm a USM fan who lives in VA, so I'll gladly pay $5/month extra to see them play.

For sure. And it beats $10/month to CUSATV

For sure, but I think what the Georgia Southern poster was referring to was incurring cost to produce those ESPN+ games. If I am reading him right. I wouldn't imagine that CUSA admin, athletic directors would be ok gaining money through a not too bad deal, just to give it away for a pay per view deal with ESPN. That is the part I am assuming they are negotiating about with ESPN, just me thinking out loud here.

If the conference just breaks even with those third tier rights vs production costs and gets them on a decent streaming platform that'd be OK in my book. And I won't blink at $5/month. I can't get a decent burger and fries for less than $10 downtown anymore.

(03-16-2018 10:24 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  Where is this "500k" coming from, I have searched and found nothing. Not saying that isn't the case or that it even really matters, but I would like to see a reference, so help me out here belt fans. As far as 400K, that's not in stone either, remember last go around we all thought it would be 800, then it went to 400, then we all were shocked to find out it was actually around 200.........don't jump the gun here

True, it also may be telling to pay attention to verbiage and how terms are couched. I've read everything from increased to enhanced revenue. The article in the Hattiesburg American reads as if CUSA is responsible for production costs under the current contract. If that is the case, then the old deal is worse than previously thought while the new deal may make profit margins even larger. It also states that ESPN3 is still a possibility for schools willing to foot the bill.

(03-16-2018 12:33 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 12:24 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:52 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:45 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:18 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  All true but the payouts, none of that has been confirmed. The only site I have seen that suggests 500K per year for the belt schools is sbnation (go figure)................not that it matters a ton. Another is we aren't done negotiating fully with ESPN and have another year of BeIn. I expect BeIn to be re-upped and stadium to pick up more games as the season progresses like they usually do. Will the last 3 "partners" amount to much more $$, who knows. We aren't even sure 400K is what we are getting either, just assumed.

If all of this is true and numbers are correct, what does it boil down to:

1. Sunbelt schools get bragging rights for initial gains
2. Sunbelt schools losing money at the live gate for mid week contests costs each school revenue, on top of paying production costs which equals more body bag games to make up the difference.
3. CUSA schools lose bragging rights, if that matters
4. All of initial gains are pocketed due to no production costs from main partner.
5. The schools that traditionally attend well will keep a good live gate due to few midweek games.

Forecast is (if this is all set in stone), a few sunbelt schools will ascend because they are already set up for covering production costs to keep it to a minimum. Those schools will have an advantage over the other schools in their conference, which means unequal ground.
CUSA schools will all be on equal ground, as it pertains to media revenue. This is a positive overall for most schools. Live gate matters more than these low balled media deals, so schools need to sell their product or enhance their product so it can be sold, that part is up to them. Schools like Marshall and USM used to be a 30K average attendance school, they need to return to that to prosper. Hell UTEP once was a leader of attendance, somehow needs to figure it out and get back to it. Live gate will matter in who survives the NCAA monopoly and who doesn't.

But... If CUSA is still negotiating with ESPN, I assume as CBSSN has the best games, the best CUSA will get is ESPN+. So now CUSA fans are on the hook to have to have access to beIN, CBSSN, CUSA network, plus the extra $5 a month for ESPN+?

Good point. However, I'm a USM fan who lives in VA, so I'll gladly pay $5/month extra to see them play.

For sure. And it beats $10/month to CUSATV

For sure, but I think what the Georgia Southern poster was referring to was incurring cost to produce those ESPN+ games. If I am reading him right. I wouldn't imagine that CUSA admin, athletic directors would be ok gaining money through a not too bad deal, just to give it away for a pay per view deal with ESPN. That is the part I am assuming they are negotiating about with ESPN, just me thinking out loud here.

I don't see you guys signing on with ESPN, for mainly similar reasons that have been mentioned so far. If you guys sign with ESPNplus, ESPN is going to make you produce your own content, which costs money. By putting those games on CUSATV, you are still pay production costs, but without having to match what ESPN requests in quality, and you get subscription fees back to make up the costs.

All in all, the two deals are probably a wash. SBC gets slightly more National TV exposure, but CUSA has more control of 2nd tier rights with Stadium and Bein.

(03-16-2018 01:35 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 12:33 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 12:24 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:52 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 11:45 AM)itsmeagain Wrote:  But... If CUSA is still negotiating with ESPN, I assume as CBSSN has the best games, the best CUSA will get is ESPN+. So now CUSA fans are on the hook to have to have access to beIN, CBSSN, CUSA network, plus the extra $5 a month for ESPN+?

Good point. However, I'm a USM fan who lives in VA, so I'll gladly pay $5/month extra to see them play.

For sure. And it beats $10/month to CUSATV

For sure, but I think what the Georgia Southern poster was referring to was incurring cost to produce those ESPN+ games. If I am reading him right. I wouldn't imagine that CUSA admin, athletic directors would be ok gaining money through a not too bad deal, just to give it away for a pay per view deal with ESPN. That is the part I am assuming they are negotiating about with ESPN, just me thinking out loud here.

I don't see you guys signing on with ESPN, for mainly similar reasons that have been mentioned so far. If you guys sign with ESPNplus, ESPN is going to make you produce your own content, which costs money. By putting those games on CUSATV, you are still pay production costs, but without having to match what ESPN requests in quality, and you get subscription fees back to make up the costs.

All in all, the two deals are probably a wash. SBC gets slightly more National TV exposure, but CUSA has more control of 2nd tier rights with Stadium and Bein.

when it comes down to it, both "deals" stink