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Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
I can only think of Utah State, who made it so far only because the bracket was smaller.
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...conference

It appears not. Here were the most I could find:

Murray State 16
Iona 13
Old Dominion 11
Louisiana Lafayette 10 (made it in 1973 but forced to vacate)
NC A&T 10
Southern 9
Middle Tennessee 9


** corrected mistake in schools listed **
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-16-2018 05:30 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I can only think of Utah State, who made it so far only because the bracket was smaller.

New Mexico?
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
Missouri has been 26 times without making a final 4. They have lost in the 1st or 2nd round 19 times of the 26. But they have made some regional finals.
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
Ok I was wrong but New Mexico has had 13 straight NCAA tournaments without a sweet 16
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
Murray State took 1-seed Michigan St to OT. A point from being the only 16 to ever beat a 1.

They’ve also had runs end by a bucket in the 2nd round to teams who either won the national championship or finished runnerup. ‘88 Kansas, ‘10 Butler.
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-16-2018 08:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Murray State took 1-seed Michigan St to OT. A point from being the only 16 to ever beat a 1.

They’ve also had runs end by a bucket in the 2nd round to teams who either won the national championship or finished runnerup. ‘88 Kansas, ‘10 Butler.

Murray St has suffered some heart breaks no question
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
http://www.tribstar.com/sports/todd-aaro...9ae4e.html

MCV Commish says the MVC won’t add for next season, but didn’t state anything for the 2019-20 season. Murray St would be the perfect candidate to take the MVFC to 12. The MVC must get a 12th school though for 2019-20.

Murray St was responsible for most of the fans at the OVC tournament in Evansville, and Arch Madness had to have noticed, as its hurting from the loss of Wichita St fans.
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-16-2018 07:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  Missouri has been 26 times without making a final 4. They have lost in the 1st or 2nd round 19 times of the 26. But they have made some regional finals.

They were completely lost tonight against FSU. We always seem to play horrible the first half. I am just embarrassed...
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-16-2018 09:58 PM)NoDak Wrote:  http://www.tribstar.com/sports/todd-aaro...9ae4e.html

MCV Commish says the MVC won’t add for next season, but didn’t state anything for the 2019-20 season. Murray St would be the perfect candidate to take the MVFC to 12. The MVC must get a 12th school though for 2019-20.

Murray St was responsible for most of the fans at the OVC tournament in Evansville, and Arch Madness had to have noticed, as its hurting from the loss of Wichita St fans.

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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-16-2018 07:40 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...conference

It appears not. Here were the most I could find:

Murray State 16
Iona 13
Old Dominion 11
Louisiana Lafayette 10 (made it in 1973 but forced to vacate)
NC A&T 10
Southern 9
Western Kentucky 9

Western KY made the sweet sixteen several times, including at least twice in the modern era of more than 16 entrants (1993 and 2008).
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-16-2018 07:40 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...conference

It appears not. Here were the most I could find:

Murray State 16
Iona 13
Old Dominion 11
Louisiana Lafayette 10 (made it in 1973 but forced to vacate)
NC A&T 10
Southern 9
Western Kentucky 9

You can take us off this list
The Western Kentucky Hilltoppers have made 21 NCAA Tournament appearances as well as 13 trips to the NIT.
WKU has seven Sweet 16 appearances and one Final Four.
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-19-2018 07:57 PM)Hilltop75 Wrote:  
(03-16-2018 07:40 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...conference

It appears not. Here were the most I could find:

Murray State 16
Iona 13
Old Dominion 11
Louisiana Lafayette 10 (made it in 1973 but forced to vacate)
NC A&T 10
Southern 9
Western Kentucky 9

You can take us off this list
The Western Kentucky Hilltoppers have made 21 NCAA Tournament appearances as well as 13 trips to the NIT.
WKU has seven Sweet 16 appearances and one Final Four.

Wow you guys got shortchanged! He says 9, but it's actually 21?
*wikipedia says western Kentucky has 23 NCAA tournament appearances*
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
But they've "never" been to the Final Four.
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-16-2018 07:40 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Divis...conference

It appears not. Here were the most I could find:

Murray State 16
Iona 13
Old Dominion 11
Louisiana Lafayette 10 (made it in 1973 but forced to vacate)
NC A&T 10
Southern 9
Western Kentucky 9
WKU has been to the sweet 16 multiple times, most recently in 2008.
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
My Bad, I apologize, that was MTSU not WKU. I seemed to have switched the two schools between reading the name and writing it down. I think I was in shock that such a strong program never made it and rattled my brain. Corrected list:

Murray State 16
Iona 13
Old Dominion 11
Louisiana Lafayette 10 (made it in 1973 but forced to vacate)
NC A&T 10
Southern 9
Middle Tennessee 9
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-21-2018 12:14 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  My Bad, I apologize, that was MTSU not WKU. I seemed to have switched the two schools between reading the name and writing it down. I think I was in shock that such a strong program never made it and rattled my brain. Corrected list:

Murray State 16
Iona 13
Old Dominion 11
Louisiana Lafayette 10 (made it in 1973 but forced to vacate)
NC A&T 10
Southern 9
Middle Tennessee 9

so , which school in this group do you all think is most likely to be the 1st to get to sweet 16?
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances w/o a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-22-2018 09:40 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  
(03-21-2018 12:14 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  My Bad, I apologize, that was MTSU not WKU. I seemed to have switched the two schools between reading the name and writing it down. I think I was in shock that such a strong program never made it and rattled my brain. Corrected list:

Murray State 16
Iona 13
Old Dominion 11
Louisiana Lafayette 10 (made it in 1973 but forced to vacate)
NC A&T 10
Southern 9
Middle Tennessee 9

so , which school in this group do you all think is most likely to be the 1st to get to sweet 16?

Out of those schools: Murray State. Their chances of making the tournament on a regular basis are better, whether they remain in the OVC or move to the MVC as rumored. The more appearances a school makes, the greater the chance of a run in the tournament. A run to later rounds of the tournament is as dependent on matchups as it is on the strength of an individual team. Team strength definitely matters, but there is luck involved in a single-elimination, 68 team tournament. In time, the law of averages is due to work out for the Racers.
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RE: Does anyone have more Tournament appearances without a Sweet 16 than Murray State?
(03-22-2018 09:40 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  
(03-21-2018 12:14 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  My Bad, I apologize, that was MTSU not WKU. I seemed to have switched the two schools between reading the name and writing it down. I think I was in shock that such a strong program never made it and rattled my brain. Corrected list:

Murray State 16
Iona 13
Old Dominion 11
Louisiana Lafayette 10 (made it in 1973 but forced to vacate)
NC A&T 10
Southern 9
Middle Tennessee 9

so , which school in this group do you all think is most likely to be the 1st to get to sweet 16?

Murray State, or maybe Iona if Tim Cluess sticks around. The guy can coach.

I think Middle Tennessee has missed their chance now that Kermit Davis is gone.
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