Seriously, what's the point of letting these schools remain in the conference and create more mouths to feed UALR, UTA, A&M CC, and UNO aren't that great at basketball. You could easily vote to change conference bylaws to require football and then humanely pass these schools off on the WAC who would kill to have a block of schools that form a cohesesive footprint.

If Seattle goes to the WCC and Chicago St is jettisoned you have a nice footprint the hugs the southern border of the US.

For the Sunbelt, UALR makes a great travel partner with Arkansas St. Same with UT Arlington and Texas St. Travel partners only matter in olympic sports, so it makes for a good setup for those two not to have football. 10 is enough in football for a championship game, and maximizes their CFP per team payout.

(03-18-2018 03:21 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Seriously, what's the point of letting these schools remain in the conference and create more mouths to feed UALR, UTA, A&M CC, and UNO aren't that great at basketball. You could easily vote to change conference bylaws to require football and then humanely pass these schools off on the WAC who would kill to have a block of schools that form a cohesesive footprint.

If Seattle goes to the WCC and Chicago St is jettisoned you have a nice footprint the hugs the southern border of the US.

Sun Belt requires a unanimous vote of the schools (minus school being considered) to expel.

No way, no how is AState risking the political consequences of expelling UALR. The Trojans don’t carry a lot of political clout but you don’t want the legislature thinking you screwed over another state school unless you are UAF.

Now the Sun Belt could vote to mandate football or be expelled. That would take 9 votes or 4 votes can block.

UALR and UTA would vote no. ULM would vote no because those are two of their shortest trips. AState? See above.

Reality is most Sun Belt schools like being able to hit Jonesboro and Little Rock on one trip in hoops and volleyball so there wouldn’t be any big push to get rid of them.


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The Sun Belt has 2 schools in Texas, 2 in Arkansas, 2 in Louisiana, 2 in Alabama, 2 in Georgia, and 2 in the Carolinas.

My guess is that it will take some type of NCAA-mandated change to get Little Rock and Arlington it of the Sun Belt. Even then, they may decide to start football before such an event would happen.

The WAC expanded in the wrong direction (California) to support a viable American South 2.0. The only way it’s possible now is if the Big West somehow decides to add California Baptist and the WCC winds up with Seattle and Grand Canyon, and Utah Valley becomes the 12th member of the Big Sky.

New Mexico State
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi
Texas-Rio Grande Valley
Texas-Arlington
New Orleans
Little Rock
Kansas City

Even then you really need an eighth, so hopefully the Summit has done something to run off Oral Roberts by then. Perhaps Omaha and Denver could be in play if the Summit consolidated along football lines.

The WAC would then want to have another school lined up in case NMSU gets a home in a FBS conference.