Reported by Geoff Calkins on his show. Interest has been amazing despite having essentially the same team returning. Next season, 2019- 20, the 5 and 4 star recruits should continue this interest.

Makes sense... Memphis is a great basketball town.

I wonder how that many new season tickets that translates into ?

It would be great if they could get back to regular sellouts of 16,000+.

(03-28-2018 12:18 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  I wonder how that many new season tickets that translates into ?

It would be great if they could get back to regular sellouts of 16,000+.

I thought season tickets went on sale later in the summer, or maybe just renewals.

you can buy 18-19 basketball season tickets now. I've bought my old seats back after dropping them before Pastners last season. i never reduced my scholarship fund donation required for those and my football seats, so it was just a matter of paying for the tickets. I just got so tired of going home every game complaining and angry we let the basketball seats go and just cherry picked games the last 3 years. I'm looking forward to having fun in the forum again. cant win em all, but as long as its entertaining I'm satisfied

(03-28-2018 12:44 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  you can buy 18-19 basketball season tickets now. I've bought my old seats back after dropping them before Pastners last season. i never reduced my scholarship fund donation required for those and my football seats, so it was just a matter of paying for the tickets. I just got so tired of going home every game complaining and angry we let the basketball seats go and just cherry picked games the last 3 years. I'm looking forward to having fun in the forum again. cant win em all, but as long as its entertaining I'm satisfied

sounds like a lot of memphis fans did just the same as this. Glad to see memphis back on the map.

Nobody was going to rejuvenate the Memphis program in anything near the time frame that Penny would. That's why we had to hire him, despite the lack of college coaching experience.

(03-28-2018 01:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Nobody was going to rejuvenate the Memphis program in anything near the time frame that Penny would. That's why we had to hire him, despite the lack of college coaching experience.

Revenue matters, now more than ever given the paltry media deal this conference has (which, may get a bump in the ensuing year but still will be significantly less than the P5).

(03-28-2018 01:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Nobody was going to rejuvenate the Memphis program in anything near the time frame that Penny would. That's why we had to hire him, despite the lack of college coaching experience.

As a Magic fan from way back I can see things with Penny going two ways:

1.) A return to glory and SS appearances
2.) A crash and burn with 25 loss seasons

I am afraid that there won't be any middle ground here. I really want to see Penny succeed. Before his injuries he was a perennial NBA all-star. Unlike some old school Magic fans, I have always had a good view of Hardaway.

Having Shaq alone wouldn't have gotten the Magic past the Bulls in 1995, neither would have Horace Grant. Penny was the missing piece that gave them the edge to go the NBA Finals.

(03-28-2018 01:04 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 01:01 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Nobody was going to rejuvenate the Memphis program in anything near the time frame that Penny would. That's why we had to hire him, despite the lack of college coaching experience.

As a Magic fan from way back I can see things with Penny going two ways:

1.) A return to glory and SS appearances
2.) A crash and burn with 25 loss seasons

I am afraid that there won't be any middle ground here. I really want to see Penny succeed. Before his injuries he was a perennial NBA all-star. Unlike some old school Magic fans, I have always had a good view of Hardaway.

Having Shaq alone wouldn't have gotten the Magic past the Bulls in 1995, neither would have Horace Grant. Penny was the missing piece that gave them the edge to go the NBA Finals.

Sweet 16s seem doable in the reasonable future.

25-loss seasons? We haven't had any coach do that since Moe Iba in the 1960s. Not gonna happen.

Penny will get most Memphis recruits he wants, which will be enough to field competitive, if not great teams, at times.

And he has some national appeal with his Nike line of shoes.

Was that million in ticket sales just ticket sales or does it also include the mandatory donation figures too?

(03-28-2018 02:33 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Was that million in ticket sales just ticket sales or does it also include the mandatory donation figures too?

Ticket sales only is my understanding.

(03-28-2018 02:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:33 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Was that million in ticket sales just ticket sales or does it also include the mandatory donation figures too?

Ticket sales only is my understanding.

Just curious ... whats your guys lowest season ticket price?

WSU's minimum for a seat is 500 .. so a million would be about 2,000 seats at the lowest cost.

(03-28-2018 02:39 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:33 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Was that million in ticket sales just ticket sales or does it also include the mandatory donation figures too?

Ticket sales only is my understanding.

Just curious ... whats your guys lowest season ticket price?

WSU's minimum for a seat is 500 .. so a million would be about 2,000 seats at the lowest cost.

About 1000 seats are at $100 without donation. The other 17 thousand are $200 to $3000 with donation levels between $200-Ambassador Level($100k) required per seat.

So, **** seats at 100.

http://gotigersgo.com/sports/2015/4/9/GE...01105.aspx

(03-28-2018 02:51 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:39 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:33 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Was that million in ticket sales just ticket sales or does it also include the mandatory donation figures too?

Ticket sales only is my understanding.

Just curious ... whats your guys lowest season ticket price?

WSU's minimum for a seat is 500 .. so a million would be about 2,000 seats at the lowest cost.

About 1000 seats are at $100 without donation. The other 17 thousand are $200 to $3000 with donation levels between $200-Ambassador Level($100k) required per seat.

So, **** seats at 100.

http://gotigersgo.com/sports/2015/4/9/GE...01105.aspx

Ok that puts it in perspective. Our absolute worst seats on the last row behind a pole are 500 a seat with a 500 donation for a pair (so 750 minimum per seat if you buy a pair). Obviously goes up to some insanely high values up close.

That's a lot of tickets then if you have that many cheap seats.

I don't know how anyone cannot be in favor of this hire. Is there a chance Penny has no idea how to coach basketball or gets in trouble with NCAA compliance? Of course, but the upside is tremendous and is already paying off. I predict that in 3 years, Memphis will be back in the tournament averaging 15K at home coming off back-to-back top 25 recruiting classes.

(03-28-2018 03:03 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I don't know how anyone cannot be in favor of this hire. Is there a chance Penny has no idea how to coach basketball or gets in trouble with NCAA compliance? Of course, but the upside is tremendous and is already paying off. I predict that in 3 years, Memphis will be back in the tournament averaging 15K at home coming off back-to-back top 25 recruiting classes.

Our basketball program had 3 problems

1) We were in a $5 million dollar hole annually due to lack of donations/season ticket sales. Attendance was at a 50 year low.

2) Recruiting was at a 40 year low.

3) The on the court product was awful. Lowest KenPom rating in the history of that metric.


Penny fixes problem 1 immediately. It's assumed that problem 2 will be fixed as well.

Problem 3? We'll see.

(03-28-2018 03:03 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I don't know how anyone cannot be in favor of this hire. Is there a chance Penny has no idea how to coach basketball or gets in trouble with NCAA compliance? Of course, but the upside is tremendous and is already paying off. I predict that in 3 years, Memphis will be back in the tournament averaging 15K at home coming off back-to-back top 25 recruiting classes.

Things are looking up and I'm definitely excited. I'm guessing Memphis will hit the 15k mark sooner than three years. In 2014--16,000; 2015--13,000; 2016--12,000; 2017--9000; and 2018--c. 5600.

Memphis led the league in attendance the first 3 yrs, was 2nd to Cincy in 2017, and who knows what the rank was in 2018.

Rain or shine I'm making the conference tourney in Memphis next March.

(03-28-2018 03:00 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:51 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:39 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:33 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Was that million in ticket sales just ticket sales or does it also include the mandatory donation figures too?

Ticket sales only is my understanding.

Just curious ... whats your guys lowest season ticket price?

WSU's minimum for a seat is 500 .. so a million would be about 2,000 seats at the lowest cost.

About 1000 seats are at $100 without donation. The other 17 thousand are $200 to $3000 with donation levels between $200-Ambassador Level($100k) required per seat.

So, **** seats at 100.

http://gotigersgo.com/sports/2015/4/9/GE...01105.aspx

Ok that puts it in perspective. Our absolute worst seats on the last row behind a pole are 500 a seat with a 500 donation for a pair (so 750 minimum per seat if you buy a pair). Obviously goes up to some insanely high values up close.

That's a lot of tickets then if you have that many cheap seats.

My understanding is the great majority of the tickets sold are in the lower bowl, the expensive seats, with high seat donation charges on top of the ticket price. Many are former season ticket holders getting their old seats back, plus maybe more seats. JMO.

Also, capacity is 18,000+, not 16K, as some keep saying. What is the capacity in Wichita? Just curious.

(03-28-2018 03:21 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 03:00 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:51 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:39 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-28-2018 02:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Ticket sales only is my understanding.

Just curious ... whats your guys lowest season ticket price?

WSU's minimum for a seat is 500 .. so a million would be about 2,000 seats at the lowest cost.

About 1000 seats are at $100 without donation. The other 17 thousand are $200 to $3000 with donation levels between $200-Ambassador Level($100k) required per seat.

So, **** seats at 100.

http://gotigersgo.com/sports/2015/4/9/GE...01105.aspx

Ok that puts it in perspective. Our absolute worst seats on the last row behind a pole are 500 a seat with a 500 donation for a pair (so 750 minimum per seat if you buy a pair). Obviously goes up to some insanely high values up close.

That's a lot of tickets then if you have that many cheap seats.

My understanding is the great majority of the tickets sold are in the lower bowl, the expensive seats, with high seat donation charges on top of the ticket price. Many are former season ticket holders getting their old seats back, plus maybe more seats. JMO.

Also, capacity is 18,000+, not 16K, as some keep saying. What is the capacity in Wichita? Just curious.

10k