If the US tells these shitehole countries that they won't get a centavo unless they fix their crime problem, bribe system, corruption then goodbye, nice knowing you...not really. I don't even know why we send them aid if it never gets to the people. Their politicos need some quick Russian justice and Chinese justice for the drug problems.

(04-03-2018 08:21 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 07:41 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(04-03-2018 06:18 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 09:35 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(04-02-2018 04:31 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  I'll be honest, I have a tough time with your writing. I think I know what you're saying here, so if I don't know something, teach me.

I'm simply wondering how an asylum-seeker which declared themselves at the border is an illegal immigrant (as SuperFlyBCat stated)?

I don't dispute that they're traveling through Mexico illegally, but if the border is reached and they ask for asylum, it seems like the letter of the law is being followed.

Question: If the person is an asylum seeker why is it that Mexico can't be the destination for THAT asylum. They are seeking asylum FROM their Central American country which would make Mexico asylum worthy.

Because if you're trying to start a new life from scratch, where would you go? The place you've heard has rampant cartel issues, corruption, and is economically limited. Or the place where there's a robust economy, a fair (albeit not perfect) political system, and immigrants have been welcomed and have succeeded for hundreds of years.

This is what makes America exceptional; we genuinely are the shining city upon a hill.

Just what % of those people are uneducated?
Just what % of those people have no marketable work skills?
Just what % of those people don't speak a word of English?

Just because we're a "shining city upon a hill" doesn't mean we need to open up the gates for any trash that wants in.

Sorry, we have enough CITIZENS in this country that are basically unemployable, we don't need to be importing even more.

We have 325 million people in this country. We are $21 trillion in debt. We no longer should be or CAN be the depository for the world's dredges.

What we need to do is put up a sign saying "if you don't have an education and skills that will BENEFIT AMERICA, no need applying".

This is an argument as old as the United States itself, from the dredges of Germany to the dredges of Ireland to the dredges of Italy to the dredges of China and now, to the dredges of the Americas. In the end, they've positively contributed to the overall health, well-being, and story of the United States. Obviously I can't guarantee it, but your belief has typically been on the wrong side of history.

But I do get it; we're a capitalist nation and as such, there's an expectation that everyone should bring capital value to our economy. However, this nation isn't built on capitalism. It's built on men and women that seek life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - capitalism is a byproduct of the philosophies.

ps. The debt is an entirely different issue and of things that can reduce or reverse it, immigration is low on the list. But that's for a separate discussion.

I take offense. My ancestors weren't the dregs from anywhere. It took several generations to achieve that distinction. Lol

(04-03-2018 03:40 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  If the US tells these shitehole countries that they won't get a centavo unless they fix their crime problem, bribe system, corruption then goodbye, nice knowing you...not really. I don't even know why we send them aid if it never gets to the people. Their politicos need some quick Russian justice and Chinese justice for the drug problems.

legalizing weed, a better border control structure, utilizing current technology, enforcing immigration laws, slashing 'catch and release' from the books all come to mind in ze pinch.....