Here's a piece written by Trey Gowdy, who has actually read the memos.

First he quotes Byron York, Redwingtom's nemisis.

Quote:On the House side, Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., among a few others, was allowed to read the memos under the same conditions: FBI minder, no copies, no notes.

What struck Gowdy was the general absence of classified information in the memos or any other reason they should remain secret. Out of a total of seven memos, the FBI had marked four as classified at the “secret” or “confidential” levels — not the highest level — but even with those memos, it appeared to Gowdy that they could be released publicly with only minimal blacking-out.

Gowdy then says this:

Quote:That would be my assessment, too. Anything that is even vaguely useful to the cause of damaging Trump is leaked by Adam Schiff in just a few minutes. This is the reason we still don’t know what is in the Democrat “counter memo” on the use of the Trump dossier in Carter Page’s investigation.

It is difficult to conclude that the memos are being classified for the same reason the FBI sought to classify large portions of the criminal referral Grassley sent to Department of Justice, it made the FBI look bad and the material was declared to be classified in order to keep it from becoming public.

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/02...mes-comey/

Quote:As it turns out, however, the information leaked by Comey was classified, and the records in his possession were clearly government records which Comey was not authorized to possess or distribute. How do we know the information was classified? Because the FBI itself told Congress as much. In fact, the information leaked by Comey was so sensitive that members of Congress were not even allowed to read the memos he wrote outside of a Special Compartmented Information Facility, or SCIF, a highly secure room or area designed to prevent classified information consumed within from being improperly distributed.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/cnn-...ied-memos/

Opps, same article.

Quote:In a letter to the Department of Justice (DOJ) sent in early January, Senate Judiciary Chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) noted that at least one of the memos leaked by Comey, if not all four, contained classified information.

Quote:Can you provide a credible source that he leaked as much as one classified document to "his professor buddy?"

Will Senate Judiciary Chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) do, or do I have to keep digging?

(04-04-2018 01:16 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  “We have a sworn declaration from David Hardy who is the chief FOIA officer of the FBI that we obtained just in the last few days, and in that sworn declaration, Mr. Hardy says that all of Comey's memos ‒ all of them ‒ were classified at the time they were written, and they remain classified,” Farrell said.

#Redwingfitfail

(04-04-2018 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:38 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:45 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 06:49 AM)solohawks Wrote:  If he is not a criminal target after almost 1 full year then is it fair to say he didn't do anything criminal??

There is no criminal statue for collusion, right?

And most likely this is just a trap to get trump to an interview without a subpoena, where he'll run off at the mouth and incriminate himself...pretty much like he's done every time he's deposed under oath.

Until you hear it directly from Mueller's mouth, I would suggest assuming nothing at this point.

In other words, they have nothing and they are fishing. Just as it has been from the beginning. It looks as if this coup attempt may be beginning to fall apart, but the desperation of the perpetrators (or should that be perpe-TRAITORS?) cannot be underestimated.

And it was all started on a lie to begin with. Fired Comey leaking classified schit to his professor buddy to give to the press.

Complete and total lie.

Lol.

Really? He testified to it UNDER OATH, and even said he did it in hopes “it would trigger a Special Counsel”.

What could he have been admittedly leaking if it wasn’t work product?

Trumps two-scoop scandal?

Please back up your assertion of “complete and total lie”, or kindly retract the statement.

Thx.

(04-04-2018 01:52 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:38 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:45 AM)appst89 Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 08:31 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  There is no criminal statue for collusion, right?

And most likely this is just a trap to get trump to an interview without a subpoena, where he'll run off at the mouth and incriminate himself...pretty much like he's done every time he's deposed under oath.

Until you hear it directly from Mueller's mouth, I would suggest assuming nothing at this point.

In other words, they have nothing and they are fishing. Just as it has been from the beginning. It looks as if this coup attempt may be beginning to fall apart, but the desperation of the perpetrators (or should that be perpe-TRAITORS?) cannot be underestimated.

And it was all started on a lie to begin with. Fired Comey leaking classified schit to his professor buddy to give to the press.

Complete and total lie.

Lol.

Really? He testified to it UNDER OATH, and even said he did it in hopes “it would trigger a Special Counsel”.

What could he have been admittedly leaking if it wasn’t work product?

Trumps two-scoop scandal?

Please back up your assertion of “complete and total lie”, or kindly retract the statement.

Thx.

I suspect he's done for the day. The lad's taken a terrible beating here.

(04-04-2018 01:34 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  Opps, same article.

Quote:In a letter to the Department of Justice (DOJ) sent in early January, Senate Judiciary Chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) noted that at least one of the memos leaked by Comey, if not all four, contained classified information.

Quote:Can you provide a credible source that he leaked as much as one classified document to "his professor buddy?"

Will Senate Judiciary Chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) do, or do I have to keep digging?

No, because his memo refers to "media reports" and then cites the following media report which says the following:

Quote:But asked about the latest claims, Columbia University professor Daniel Richman -- the Comey friend who leaked part of one memo to The New York Times -- told Fox News on Monday that “this is a non-story.”

“No memos were given to the press, and no memos were classified at the time I received them,” Richman told Fox News, explaining that the “substance” of one memo was given to the press but not the physical document.

“That was not classified at the time, and remains unclassified,” he said.

Richman told Fox News he received four memos from Comey, all of which were not marked. Richman questioned the White House claims.

“It’s kind of interesting that the White House is now suggesting they’re true,” Richman said.

Comey memos reportedly had classified info; Trump says ‘That is so illegal’

What you have is a bunch of circular nonsense from the right wing with not one shred of proof that Comey gave anything classified to Richman and whether he gave any of that information to the press. Grassley's letter documents all of this as he's asking the FBI the very question you're claiming is true. Let me know when you get that official answer and not a bunch of opinions from fox news.

From Grassley's letter:

Quote:In order for the Committee to further assess this situation, please respond to the following
in writing by no later than January 17, 2018:

1. Has the Justice Department or FBI in fact determined that any of the memoranda Mr.
Comey sent Professor Richman contained classified information? If so, what steps were
taken to retrieve and safeguard the information?

2. Which of the seven memoranda the FBI made available for the Committee’s review did
Mr. Comey give to Professor Richman?

a. When did Mr. Comey give Professor Richman the memoranda?
b. At the time that Professor Richman received the memoranda, were any marked as
classified?

(04-04-2018 01:40 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:16 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  “We have a sworn declaration from David Hardy who is the chief FOIA officer of the FBI that we obtained just in the last few days, and in that sworn declaration, Mr. Hardy says that all of Comey's memos ‒ all of them ‒ were classified at the time they were written, and they remain classified,” Farrell said.

#Redwingfitfail

#lamegotchapersonalattackgrowup

critical think you must utilize.

(04-04-2018 12:54 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:51 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:32 AM)olliebaba Wrote:  Trumps lawyers should just tell Mula to go pound sand and to quit harassing the president. Because that's what it's come to. They just want an "AHA" moment to continue. This is so bad that he Mula could probably get me to confess to something and I'm not even a politician.

Pointless. Mueller can just subpoena him. And might regardless.

Based on what? Just cause?

He’s just told him he’s not under criminal investigation, what could possibly warrant a subpoena?

Here's a good article on it.
https://www.vox.com/2018/3/15/16997474/m...obe-russia

Ok, read probably 80% of that, annoyingly pale hard to read font/script aside.

So, is it possiblpe to subpoena him?

Well, of course it's possible, but again based on what? Just cuz?

Bueller just essentially cleared him, and that article is nearly a month old. BEFORE this latest admission. After near a YEAR of this farce he's now said POTUS is not under any criminal investigation in the Russia probe.

Now, could the fishing expedition land somewhere else, I guess, but can he be subpoenaed based on hopes and dreams? -------------

(04-04-2018 01:16 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:04 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 11:38 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  And it was all started on a lie to begin with. Fired Comey leaking classified schit to his professor buddy to give to the press.

Complete and total lie.

From what I read, Comey wrote seven memos and at least four of them have been classified by the FBI. Comey is said to have given at least four of the memos to his "attorney", who was initially identified by him as a friend, so that the could leak them to the press in the hopes of initiating a special prosecutor.

If all of the above is true, he leaked at least one classified document.

Can you expand on your opinion or are we to just believe you?

Can you provide a credible source that he leaked as much as one classified document to "his professor buddy?"

Quote:Just minutes before that accusatory tweet, the president had retweeted a “Fox & Friends” message that inaccurately claimed that “material James Comey leaked to a friend contained top secret information.” The Fox report was based on the Hill‘s story.

But the Hill report doesn’t say that. Rather, it says that Comey produced seven memos about his nine conversations with Trump regarding the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. “Four of the memos had markings making clear they contained information classified at the secret or confidential level, according to officials directly familiar with the matter,” the Hill reported.

The report does not identify the memo leaked to a friend as among those that contained classified information, nor does it say which of the seven memos contained such information.

Trump’s Unfounded Leak Claim

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/...swers.html

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/cnn-...ied-memos/

https://www.rt.com/usa/415112-all-comey-...lassified/

“We have a sworn declaration from David Hardy who is the chief FOIA officer of the FBI that we obtained just in the last few days, and in that sworn declaration, Mr. Hardy says that all of Comey's memos ‒ all of them ‒ were classified at the time they were written, and they remain classified,” Farrell said.

LMFAO! Farrell is a Judicial Watch lackey. He has no authority to speak on this matter. But I love the use of RT.com

(04-04-2018 01:32 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

Quote:As it turns out, however, the information leaked by Comey was classified, and the records in his possession were clearly government records which Comey was not authorized to possess or distribute. How do we know the information was classified? Because the FBI itself told Congress as much. In fact, the information leaked by Comey was so sensitive that members of Congress were not even allowed to read the memos he wrote outside of a Special Compartmented Information Facility, or SCIF, a highly secure room or area designed to prevent classified information consumed within from being improperly distributed.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/cnn-...ied-memos/

That's the same quote/paragraph that jumped off the page to me too. That and I had forgotten Fired Comey had already been fired when he leaked the stuff. HE may want to shut his trap. Spend a little more time brushing up on his Miranda and 5th amendment rights.

(04-04-2018 02:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:34 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  Opps, same article.

Quote:In a letter to the Department of Justice (DOJ) sent in early January, Senate Judiciary Chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) noted that at least one of the memos leaked by Comey, if not all four, contained classified information.

Quote:Can you provide a credible source that he leaked as much as one classified document to "his professor buddy?"

Will Senate Judiciary Chairman Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) do, or do I have to keep digging?

No, because his memo refers to "media reports" and then cites the following media report which says the following:

Quote:But asked about the latest claims, Columbia University professor Daniel Richman -- the Comey friend who leaked part of one memo to The New York Times -- told Fox News on Monday that “this is a non-story.”

“No memos were given to the press, and no memos were classified at the time I received them,” Richman told Fox News, explaining that the “substance” of one memo was given to the press but not the physical document.

“That was not classified at the time, and remains unclassified,” he said.

Richman told Fox News he received four memos from Comey, all of which were not marked. Richman questioned the White House claims.

“It’s kind of interesting that the White House is now suggesting they’re true,” Richman said.

Comey memos reportedly had classified info; Trump says ‘That is so illegal’

What you have is a bunch of circular nonsense from the right wing with not one shred of proof that Comey gave anything classified to Richman and whether he gave any of that information to the press. Grassley's letter documents all of this as he's asking the FBI the very question you're claiming is true. Let me know when you get that official answer and not a bunch of opinions from fox news.

From Grassley's letter:

Quote:In order for the Committee to further assess this situation, please respond to the following
in writing by no later than January 17, 2018:

1. Has the Justice Department or FBI in fact determined that any of the memoranda Mr.
Comey sent Professor Richman contained classified information? If so, what steps were
taken to retrieve and safeguard the information?

2. Which of the seven memoranda the FBI made available for the Committee’s review did
Mr. Comey give to Professor Richman?

a. When did Mr. Comey give Professor Richman the memoranda?
b. At the time that Professor Richman received the memoranda, were any marked as
classified?

*Sigh*

How many time have we been over this in the last 2 1/2-3 years?

Let's do it again, I guess. It's not the document that's classified, it's the information in the document. These were private conversations, in the Oval Office, with the POTUS regarding governmental activities, how could it NOT be classified information?

They discussing yoga schedules and grandkids?!? You believe in the Easter Bunny too?

Further, what level clearance does the professor buddy have? What employ is he under with the Federal government? If none, how can he be in receipt of classified information?

OTOH, If there's no "there, there", why "leak" it at all? Just put it out there, Homey. IF it's not classified or top secret or whatever classification, why the need to jump through all these hoops? Just walk it down the street and hand it off to Richard Cohen or tweet it on over to Bill Kristol. Either would LOVE to get this out there front and center.

Odd, that.

(04-04-2018 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:16 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 01:04 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 12:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Complete and total lie.

From what I read, Comey wrote seven memos and at least four of them have been classified by the FBI. Comey is said to have given at least four of the memos to his "attorney", who was initially identified by him as a friend, so that the could leak them to the press in the hopes of initiating a special prosecutor.

If all of the above is true, he leaked at least one classified document.

Can you expand on your opinion or are we to just believe you?

Can you provide a credible source that he leaked as much as one classified document to "his professor buddy?"

Quote:Just minutes before that accusatory tweet, the president had retweeted a “Fox & Friends” message that inaccurately claimed that “material James Comey leaked to a friend contained top secret information.” The Fox report was based on the Hill‘s story.

But the Hill report doesn’t say that. Rather, it says that Comey produced seven memos about his nine conversations with Trump regarding the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. “Four of the memos had markings making clear they contained information classified at the secret or confidential level, according to officials directly familiar with the matter,” the Hill reported.

The report does not identify the memo leaked to a friend as among those that contained classified information, nor does it say which of the seven memos contained such information.

Trump’s Unfounded Leak Claim

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/...swers.html

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/24/cnn-...ied-memos/

https://www.rt.com/usa/415112-all-comey-...lassified/

“We have a sworn declaration from David Hardy who is the chief FOIA officer of the FBI that we obtained just in the last few days, and in that sworn declaration, Mr. Hardy says that all of Comey's memos ‒ all of them ‒ were classified at the time they were written, and they remain classified,” Farrell said.

LMFAO! Farrell is a Judicial Watch lackey. He has no authority to speak on this matter. But I love the use of RT.com

I was wondering if you would catch the RT.com.

(04-04-2018 03:24 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  *Sigh*

How many time have we been over this in the last 2 1/2-3 years?

Let's do it again, I guess. It's not the document that's classified, it's the information in the document. These were private conversations, in the Oval Office, with the POTUS regarding governmental activities, how could it NOT be classified information?

They discussing yoga schedules and grandkids?!? You believe in the Easter Bunny too?

Further, what level clearance does the professor buddy have? What employ is he under with the Federal government? If none, how can he be in receipt of classified information?

OTOH, If there's no "there, there", why "leak" it at all? Just put it out there, Homey. IF it's not classified or top secret or whatever classification, why the need to jump through all these hoops? Just walk it down the street and hand it off to Richard Cohen or tweet it on over to Bill Kristol. Either would LOVE to get this out there front and center.

Odd, that.

I think Tom's now down to: the documents are classified but they're not classified......or they were classified before they weren't classified.

(04-04-2018 04:11 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-04-2018 03:24 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  *Sigh*

How many time have we been over this in the last 2 1/2-3 years?

Let's do it again, I guess. It's not the document that's classified, it's the information in the document. These were private conversations, in the Oval Office, with the POTUS regarding governmental activities, how could it NOT be classified information?

They discussing yoga schedules and grandkids?!? You believe in the Easter Bunny too?

Further, what level clearance does the professor buddy have? What employ is he under with the Federal government? If none, how can he be in receipt of classified information?

OTOH, If there's no "there, there", why "leak" it at all? Just put it out there, Homey. IF it's not classified or top secret or whatever classification, why the need to jump through all these hoops? Just walk it down the street and hand it off to Richard Cohen or tweet it on over to Bill Kristol. Either would LOVE to get this out there front and center.

Odd, that.

I think Tom's now down to: the documents are classified but they're not classified......or they were classified before they weren't classified.

No, I'm STILL down to the FACT that neither you nor Chuck Grassley have proven that anything Comey may have given to Richman was ever actually classified.

But thanks for the "beating." As "beatings" go, this one was quite enjoyable.