(08-04-2018 10:55 AM)NoQuestion Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 06:53 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 06:33 AM)NoDak Wrote:  There is at least one former Montana fb coach that is clearly disappointed with the Big Sky and its California approach. Mick Delaney just said in an interview that the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division. That flies in the face of what the Montana posters and their Big Sky sycophants have said. Delaney is much more connected than anybody on this board and he’s a former AD. But I guess I’m just an idiot too.

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/...804309002/

I thought people aren’t publicly allowed to comment on the Great Northern? That’s one guys opinion on what they SHOULD have done, not what will happen.

Following NoDak logic. Wouldn't this mean that a 2 division set-up is a done deal? Bad news for the GNC.

Following your pseudo-logic then, Texas A&M would have never joined the SEC to get away from Texas, even though they were offered a spot along with Houston nearly 20 years earlier. Sometimes it takes time to realize your mistakes.

(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 09:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If an old NCC member is going to be reunited with the Dakota 4 and Omaha in the Summit it's going to be Northern Colorado or among the trio of Minnesota-Duluth, St Cloud St, or Minnesota St.

Northern Colorado would bring a 6th football program and put the Summit in a position to take over the MVFC as a conference sport. They'd also be a travel partner for Denver.

Adding the first two Minnesota schools gives the Summit 5 of the 8 NCHC schools and would also put the Summit in a position to sponsor hockey in-house.

The Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver make up 2/3rds of the Summit membership. If either or both of these routes are appealing to them then they can pursue them despite what the other 3 want.

Augustana really has nothing to offer

Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.

Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC. 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7 as UND didn’t not have a vote yet.

(08-04-2018 11:00 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 10:55 AM)NoQuestion Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 06:53 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 06:33 AM)NoDak Wrote:  There is at least one former Montana fb coach that is clearly disappointed with the Big Sky and its California approach. Mick Delaney just said in an interview that the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division. That flies in the face of what the Montana posters and their Big Sky sycophants have said. Delaney is much more connected than anybody on this board and he’s a former AD. But I guess I’m just an idiot too.

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/...804309002/

I thought people aren’t publicly allowed to comment on the Great Northern? That’s one guys opinion on what they SHOULD have done, not what will happen.

Following NoDak logic. Wouldn't this mean that a 2 division set-up is a done deal? Bad news for the GNC.

Following your pseudo-logic then, Texas A&M would have never joined the SEC to get away from Texas, even though they were offered a spot along with Houston nearly 20 years earlier. Sometimes it takes time to realize your mistakes.

Where in that interview did he say?

"the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division."

The important part

Quote:I think, would have been a great fit way back then. But it didn’t happen that way. I think they’ve got to try to work toward somehow having two divisions. Get another school and make it 14 and then have two divisions so there’s a champion on each side. Those are just a few thoughts I throw out there.

(08-04-2018 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 09:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If an old NCC member is going to be reunited with the Dakota 4 and Omaha in the Summit it's going to be Northern Colorado or among the trio of Minnesota-Duluth, St Cloud St, or Minnesota St.

Northern Colorado would bring a 6th football program and put the Summit in a position to take over the MVFC as a conference sport. They'd also be a travel partner for Denver.

Adding the first two Minnesota schools gives the Summit 5 of the 8 NCHC schools and would also put the Summit in a position to sponsor hockey in-house.

The Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver make up 2/3rds of the Summit membership. If either or both of these routes are appealing to them then they can pursue them despite what the other 3 want.

Augustana really has nothing to offer

Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.

Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7.

Great tin foil hat stuff. Are you enjoying your last month here?

(08-04-2018 11:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 09:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If an old NCC member is going to be reunited with the Dakota 4 and Omaha in the Summit it's going to be Northern Colorado or among the trio of Minnesota-Duluth, St Cloud St, or Minnesota St.

Northern Colorado would bring a 6th football program and put the Summit in a position to take over the MVFC as a conference sport. They'd also be a travel partner for Denver.

Adding the first two Minnesota schools gives the Summit 5 of the 8 NCHC schools and would also put the Summit in a position to sponsor hockey in-house.

The Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver make up 2/3rds of the Summit membership. If either or both of these routes are appealing to them then they can pursue them despite what the other 3 want.

Augustana really has nothing to offer

Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.

Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7.

Great tin foil hat stuff. Are you enjoying your last month here?

Have been begged for almost years to show someone credible who agrees with me. When I do, thought some actual light bulbs would go off. But nada.

This board is so incredibly dull that I won’t miss the loss of IQ points by posting because my postings will go way down even when it happens.

(08-04-2018 11:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 11:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 09:57 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  If an old NCC member is going to be reunited with the Dakota 4 and Omaha in the Summit it's going to be Northern Colorado or among the trio of Minnesota-Duluth, St Cloud St, or Minnesota St.

Northern Colorado would bring a 6th football program and put the Summit in a position to take over the MVFC as a conference sport. They'd also be a travel partner for Denver.

Adding the first two Minnesota schools gives the Summit 5 of the 8 NCHC schools and would also put the Summit in a position to sponsor hockey in-house.

The Dakota 4, Omaha, and Denver make up 2/3rds of the Summit membership. If either or both of these routes are appealing to them then they can pursue them despite what the other 3 want.

Augustana really has nothing to offer

Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.

Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7.

Great tin foil hat stuff. Are you enjoying your last month here?

Have been begged for almost years to show someone credible who agrees with me. When I do, thought some actual light bulbs would go off. But nada.

This board is so incredibly dull that I won’t miss the loss of IQ points by posting because my postings will go way down even when it happens.

Per the article you linked, Delaney said he thought it would have been a good idea to put to the Dakotas in the Big Sky. However, he did not say that it's actually happening, nor that your FBS Summit/Great Northern/WAC/ASUN nonsense is happening.

Given how much of a genius you are, it's strange that you would have stuck around this board for 13 years. I guess you've just been nobly attempting to enlighten all us heathens with your unparalleled wisdom this whole time. It's such a shame that we'll be losing a real prize like yourself in... exactly 28 days. Truly a shame.

(08-04-2018 11:10 AM)NoQuestion Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 11:00 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 10:55 AM)NoQuestion Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 06:53 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 06:33 AM)NoDak Wrote:  There is at least one former Montana fb coach that is clearly disappointed with the Big Sky and its California approach. Mick Delaney just said in an interview that the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division. That flies in the face of what the Montana posters and their Big Sky sycophants have said. Delaney is much more connected than anybody on this board and he’s a former AD. But I guess I’m just an idiot too.

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/...804309002/

I thought people aren’t publicly allowed to comment on the Great Northern? That’s one guys opinion on what they SHOULD have done, not what will happen.

Following NoDak logic. Wouldn't this mean that a 2 division set-up is a done deal? Bad news for the GNC.

Following your pseudo-logic then, Texas A&M would have never joined the SEC to get away from Texas, even though they were offered a spot along with Houston nearly 20 years earlier. Sometimes it takes time to realize your mistakes.

Where in that interview did he say?

"the Montanas should have joined with the four Dakotas and Idaho and had their own division."

The important part

Quote:I think, would have been a great fit way back then. But it didn’t happen that way. I think they’ve got to try to work toward somehow having two divisions. Get another school and make it 14 and then have two divisions so there’s a champion on each side. Those are just a few thoughts I throw out there.

Central Washington, Dixie State, Colorado Mesa or Azusa Pacific as number 14? Those are the 4 that could make a move to D1. North/South is 6/8. East/west icould be 7/7 splitting Idaho and Idaho State in separate divisions.

(08-04-2018 12:11 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 11:47 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 11:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(08-04-2018 10:29 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Aren't most conference decisions dependent upon a 75% supermajority? If the Summit is like that, they'd need a 7th member to agree.

Northern Colorado joining the Summit and the non-Summit MVFC schools becoming football affiliates is not necessarily likely, but certainly more likely than the "Great Northern" (although that's not saying much). If it did happen, which football school would be in the west for scheduling purposes, UNI or Missouri State? Missouri State is technically farther west, but UNI is closer to the Dakota schools.

Have long said that ORU would vote for it, as they are paid pawns for realignment, having been granted free readmittance to the Summit if they did what was required for a free invite to the WAC. An eventual free slot in the WAC will be given free when they invite their football schools too as a travel partner of UMKC 7 of 9 Summit schools is 77%. Thought PUFW would be gone by July 1st, making the vote 6 of 7.

Great tin foil hat stuff. Are you enjoying your last month here?

Have been begged for almost years to show someone credible who agrees with me. When I do, thought some actual light bulbs would go off. But nada.

This board is so incredibly dull that I won’t miss the loss of IQ points by posting because my postings will go way down even when it happens.

Per the article you linked, Delaney said he thought it would have been a good idea to put to the Dakotas in the Big Sky. However, he did not say that it's actually happening, nor that your FBS Summit/Great Northern/WAC/ASUN nonsense is happening.

Given how much of a genius you are, it's strange that you would have stuck around this board for 13 years. I guess you've just been nobly attempting to enlighten all us heathens with your unparalleled wisdom this whole time. It's such a shame that we'll be losing a real prize like yourself in... exactly 28 days. Truly a shame.

Given that Idaho left 20 years ago, he’s isn’t so much regretting the past, but projecting with them aboard. He was very gracious not to slam Portland St (which plays most fb games in a Hillsboro HS stadium as a pro women’s soccer team has precedence there) and Sacramento St (which still doesn’t have an arena of more than 1000 ever since they moved up). He only took an indirect shot at Cal St-Northridge, which dropped fb and left the conference. Very AD-esque of him.

You are right that he’s not projecting it because the “other” division would be mainly slop. Only Weber St stands out for fans and facilities. He’s laying out the fact that the Dakotas and Idaho are almost the only ones worthy of associating with.

A South Dakota State writer in Soux Falls says Augustana going D1 is imminent...

http://twitter.com/argusmattz/status/107...0303768576

(12-13-2018 08:05 PM)sctvman Wrote:  A South Dakota State writer in Soux Falls says Augustana going D1 is imminent...

http://twitter.com/argusmattz/status/107...0303768576

If true, interesting they spurned UMKC for Augustana. Even with completely new people in charge in KC, bridges aren’t so easily repaired. Augustana likely parks FB in Pioneer.

That Sioux Falls tournament will be something else. Wow.

Confirmation that the Augustana board of trustees has approved the move to a Division I conference:

https://www.argusleader.com/story/sports...307262002/

Neither the conference nor a timetable is specified but the writer says "it’s widely assumed the Summit League is willing to add the Vikings."

(12-13-2018 09:11 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Confirmation that the Augustana board of trustees has approved the move to a Division I conference:

https://www.argusleader.com/story/sports...307262002/

Neither the conference nor a timetable is specified but the writer says "it’s widely assumed the Summit League is willing to add the Vikings."

Minnesota St. and Northern Colorado next?

Putting the Northern Sun back together. With Augustana, its 6 former members.

Augustana To D1 With Formal Invite

The AD will be on Overtime and will be heard locally on the local ESPN radio tomorrow at 3:25 PM.

Sounds like some news will be coming out. The targey would be Summitt League and football would be targeted for MVFC.

(12-13-2018 09:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-13-2018 09:11 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Confirmation that the Augustana board of trustees has approved the move to a Division I conference:

https://www.argusleader.com/story/sports...307262002/

Neither the conference nor a timetable is specified but the writer says "it’s widely assumed the Summit League is willing to add the Vikings."

Minnesota St. and Northern Colorado next?

Putting the Northern Sun back together. With Augustana, its 6 former members.

Summit could sponsor football pretty soon.

(12-13-2018 09:16 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-13-2018 09:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-13-2018 09:11 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Confirmation that the Augustana board of trustees has approved the move to a Division I conference:

https://www.argusleader.com/story/sports...307262002/

Neither the conference nor a timetable is specified but the writer says "it’s widely assumed the Summit League is willing to add the Vikings."

Minnesota St. and Northern Colorado next?

Putting the Northern Sun back together. With Augustana, its 6 former members.

Summit could sponsor football pretty soon.

Certainly gives them leverage at minimum. 6 members in-hand.

(12-13-2018 09:49 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(12-13-2018 09:16 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(12-13-2018 09:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-13-2018 09:11 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Confirmation that the Augustana board of trustees has approved the move to a Division I conference:

https://www.argusleader.com/story/sports...307262002/

Neither the conference nor a timetable is specified but the writer says "it’s widely assumed the Summit League is willing to add the Vikings."

Minnesota St. and Northern Colorado next?

Putting the Northern Sun back together. With Augustana, its 6 former members.

Summit could sponsor football pretty soon.

Certainly gives them leverage at minimum. 6 members in-hand.

They also looking at adding Northern Colorado (Central Washington to replace them in the Big Sky), and three Minnesota schools that have football. MVFC would be hurting for members. We already have some schools in the pipes like Murray State, Lindenwood, Robert Morris and Wayne State Michigan (Horizon/MVFC just like Lindenwood.) D2 Michigan schools said there are no options for them to join an FCS conference. With MVFC split, the MVFC could focus the midwest again. They could entice Dayton to join as a scholarship to join, and D2 Michigan schools like Grand Valley, Saginaw and Wayne State could be future MVFC. Not sure why MVC not targeting Wayne State since they are a R1 institute?

I'm not sure Minnesota State(or any other school in Minnesota for that matter) has the desire or backing to go D-I at this point. In fact, this move by Augustana seems to be door that closes those possibilities.

If Augustana joins, I’d say this puts the breaks on a Minnesota school moving up for 4-6 years - the Summit May still come calling down the road, but they really have no reason to do so before then.

I could see Youngstown State bailing on the MVFC, and joining the CAA or even the OVC for football only - Northern Colorado joining the Summit, which would give the MVFC 13 with YSU, Augustana, and UNC would be the giveaway.

So where are they going to put their foorball? Certainly not in the MVFC.

Tne Summit must be making plans to sponsor football.

(12-13-2018 11:02 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  So where are they going to put their foorball? Certainly not in the MVFC.

Tne Summit must be making plans to sponsor football.

Safe money says the non-scholarship Pioneer League.



And someone mentioned Northern Sun. That's an existing conference. The defunct conference he was thinking of was the old North Central Conference(NCC).