(05-02-2018 01:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 08:23 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 03:20 PM)The Grassy Nole Wrote:  

(04-27-2018 11:22 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 10:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well that's true. But since 2009 this has been the absolute quietest post tourney period we've had. In every other year as soon as basketball finished realignment news bubbled. Not now. Not from the twitterati, not from the network beat reporters, not from the talking heads on sports shows, not from the rogue college president, not from the commissioners, nothing.

With so much up in the air I don't find it at all strange except for the experience of it.

And at a time when so much is active with the networks, with the possible advent of new competition for rights, and as the footprint subscription model comes to a halt, I promise you that something is happening. But this time it's quiet because it's happening with those who are in charge of the news.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see something happen prior to the launch of the ACCN. But I equally wouldn't be surprised if 2024 came and went without anything being decided. Sometimes out of chaos comes creation, but sometimes out of chaos comes paralysis. If the networks see opportunity they'll act. If the networks see too much risk or uncertainty they will decide to act when they have more information and a better feel for the future. Either way something is happening, but it could be a large and sudden realignment move, or a new GOR for the Big 12 and another 10 years. That's a long time for us, but nothing in the life of a network.

Texas had 5 options to begin with:
B1G
PAC
SEC
ACC
Big 12


two realistically have been eliminated:
PAC
B1G


and then there were three........................

Where is the Texas goes Indy option? I still feel that is more viable than most would like to admit

I left it out on purpose, because I don't think it's possible.
I also left out the one move that I think is most likely.....Texas joining the American as partial with Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU.
Tejas keeps the LHN, only plays the American teams it wants (they already have Tulsa, UCF and USF scheduled) but is able to get the American a pretty good jump in revenue.
It's as close to the SWC 2.0 as they will ever get and they are almost independent and still have a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in.

And here I thought that your position was that an "almost independent", with a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in had no real value for the school in question.........

It doesn't matter Terry D. There's no way that T.C.U., Baylor, and Texas Tech are going to step down to the 3 million a year that the current AAC pays its members for media rights, and there is no way in hell that ESPN is going to bump all of the member schools of the AAC up to 35 million which is what the current Big 12 earns in T1 & T2 rights. And Texas isn't going to forfeit their larger revenue for T1 & T2 even in an adjusted AAC TV contract and they aren't giving up the LHN unless their combined TV revenue exceeds 51 million which is roughly want they earned this past year (50.8 million for all TV rights). Yes X is out of the box on this one and right into the "twilight zone".

(05-02-2018 02:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 01:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 08:23 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 03:20 PM)The Grassy Nole Wrote:  

(04-27-2018 11:22 PM)XLance Wrote:  Texas had 5 options to begin with:
B1G
PAC
SEC
ACC
Big 12


two realistically have been eliminated:
PAC
B1G


and then there were three........................

Where is the Texas goes Indy option? I still feel that is more viable than most would like to admit

I left it out on purpose, because I don't think it's possible.
I also left out the one move that I think is most likely.....Texas joining the American as partial with Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU.
Tejas keeps the LHN, only plays the American teams it wants (they already have Tulsa, UCF and USF scheduled) but is able to get the American a pretty good jump in revenue.
It's as close to the SWC 2.0 as they will ever get and they are almost independent and still have a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in.

And here I thought that your position was that an "almost independent", with a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in had no real value for the school in question.........

It doesn't matter Terry D. There's no way that T.C.U., Baylor, and Texas Tech are going to step down to the 3 million a year that the current AAC pays its members for media rights, and there is no way in hell that ESPN is going to bump all of the member schools of the AAC up to 35 million which is what the current Big 12 earns in T1 & T2 rights. And Texas isn't going to forfeit their larger revenue for T1 & T2 even in an adjusted AAC TV contract and they aren't giving up the LHN unless their combined TV revenue exceeds 51 million which is roughly want they earned this past year (50.8 million for all TV rights). Yes X is out of the box on this one and right into the "twilight zone".

Well JR, using your own suggestion from another thread and pare down to 56 teams. That would leave Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU without a conference home and looking toward the AAC for a safe harbor. They will just have to take what they can get, and you call that flawed thinking?
TZ out.

(05-02-2018 08:57 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 02:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 01:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 08:23 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 03:20 PM)The Grassy Nole Wrote:  Where is the Texas goes Indy option? I still feel that is more viable than most would like to admit

I left it out on purpose, because I don't think it's possible.
I also left out the one move that I think is most likely.....Texas joining the American as partial with Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU.
Tejas keeps the LHN, only plays the American teams it wants (they already have Tulsa, UCF and USF scheduled) but is able to get the American a pretty good jump in revenue.
It's as close to the SWC 2.0 as they will ever get and they are almost independent and still have a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in.

And here I thought that your position was that an "almost independent", with a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in had no real value for the school in question.........

It doesn't matter Terry D. There's no way that T.C.U., Baylor, and Texas Tech are going to step down to the 3 million a year that the current AAC pays its members for media rights, and there is no way in hell that ESPN is going to bump all of the member schools of the AAC up to 35 million which is what the current Big 12 earns in T1 & T2 rights. And Texas isn't going to forfeit their larger revenue for T1 & T2 even in an adjusted AAC TV contract and they aren't giving up the LHN unless their combined TV revenue exceeds 51 million which is roughly want they earned this past year (50.8 million for all TV rights). Yes X is out of the box on this one and right into the "twilight zone".

Well JR, using your own suggestion from another thread and pare down to 56 teams. That would leave Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU without a conference home and looking toward the AAC for a safe harbor. They will just have to take what they can get, and you call that flawed thinking?
TZ out.

Texas Tech might be able to get into the PAC under that theory should the PAC first dissolve and then reorganize as they have once before. But Texas isn't going the route of the AAC. I agree that Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, T.C.U., Baylor and West Virginia all might have problems. But if they do they'll cross that bridge when they get to it and UT won't be helping them out.

(05-02-2018 09:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 08:57 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 02:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 01:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 08:23 PM)XLance Wrote:  I left it out on purpose, because I don't think it's possible.
I also left out the one move that I think is most likely.....Texas joining the American as partial with Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU.
Tejas keeps the LHN, only plays the American teams it wants (they already have Tulsa, UCF and USF scheduled) but is able to get the American a pretty good jump in revenue.
It's as close to the SWC 2.0 as they will ever get and they are almost independent and still have a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in.

And here I thought that your position was that an "almost independent", with a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in had no real value for the school in question.........

It doesn't matter Terry D. There's no way that T.C.U., Baylor, and Texas Tech are going to step down to the 3 million a year that the current AAC pays its members for media rights, and there is no way in hell that ESPN is going to bump all of the member schools of the AAC up to 35 million which is what the current Big 12 earns in T1 & T2 rights. And Texas isn't going to forfeit their larger revenue for T1 & T2 even in an adjusted AAC TV contract and they aren't giving up the LHN unless their combined TV revenue exceeds 51 million which is roughly want they earned this past year (50.8 million for all TV rights). Yes X is out of the box on this one and right into the "twilight zone".

Well JR, using your own suggestion from another thread and pare down to 56 teams. That would leave Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU without a conference home and looking toward the AAC for a safe harbor. They will just have to take what they can get, and you call that flawed thinking?
TZ out.

Texas Tech might be able to get into the PAC under that theory should the PAC first dissolve and then reorganize as they have once before. But Texas isn't going the route of the AAC. I agree that Iowa State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, T.C.U., Baylor and West Virginia all might have problems. But if they do they'll cross that bridge when they get to it and UT won't be helping them out.

Yes that's what I said, they would just have to take what they could get.

(05-02-2018 02:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 01:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 08:23 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 03:20 PM)The Grassy Nole Wrote:  

(04-27-2018 11:22 PM)XLance Wrote:  Texas had 5 options to begin with:
B1G
PAC
SEC
ACC
Big 12


two realistically have been eliminated:
PAC
B1G


and then there were three........................

Where is the Texas goes Indy option? I still feel that is more viable than most would like to admit

I left it out on purpose, because I don't think it's possible.
I also left out the one move that I think is most likely.....Texas joining the American as partial with Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU.
Tejas keeps the LHN, only plays the American teams it wants (they already have Tulsa, UCF and USF scheduled) but is able to get the American a pretty good jump in revenue.
It's as close to the SWC 2.0 as they will ever get and they are almost independent and still have a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in.

And here I thought that your position was that an "almost independent", with a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in had no real value for the school in question.........

It doesn't matter Terry D. There's no way that T.C.U., Baylor, and Texas Tech are going to step down to the 3 million a year that the current AAC pays its members for media rights, and there is no way in hell that ESPN is going to bump all of the member schools of the AAC up to 35 million which is what the current Big 12 earns in T1 & T2 rights. And Texas isn't going to forfeit their larger revenue for T1 & T2 even in an adjusted AAC TV contract and they aren't giving up the LHN unless their combined TV revenue exceeds 51 million which is roughly want they earned this past year (50.8 million for all TV rights). Yes X is out of the box on this one and right into the "twilight zone".

JR:

I don't care about all of that. I just wanted to jibe XLance for his apparent inconsistencies........ :)

(05-05-2018 07:31 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 02:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 01:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 08:23 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 03:20 PM)The Grassy Nole Wrote:  Where is the Texas goes Indy option? I still feel that is more viable than most would like to admit

I left it out on purpose, because I don't think it's possible.
I also left out the one move that I think is most likely.....Texas joining the American as partial with Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU.
Tejas keeps the LHN, only plays the American teams it wants (they already have Tulsa, UCF and USF scheduled) but is able to get the American a pretty good jump in revenue.
It's as close to the SWC 2.0 as they will ever get and they are almost independent and still have a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in.

And here I thought that your position was that an "almost independent", with a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in had no real value for the school in question.........

It doesn't matter Terry D. There's no way that T.C.U., Baylor, and Texas Tech are going to step down to the 3 million a year that the current AAC pays its members for media rights, and there is no way in hell that ESPN is going to bump all of the member schools of the AAC up to 35 million which is what the current Big 12 earns in T1 & T2 rights. And Texas isn't going to forfeit their larger revenue for T1 & T2 even in an adjusted AAC TV contract and they aren't giving up the LHN unless their combined TV revenue exceeds 51 million which is roughly want they earned this past year (50.8 million for all TV rights). Yes X is out of the box on this one and right into the "twilight zone".

JR:

I don't care about all of that. I just wanted to jibe XLance for his apparent inconsistencies........ :)

I understand completely. That temptation is practically impossible to resist.

(05-05-2018 07:31 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 02:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 01:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 08:23 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(04-30-2018 03:20 PM)The Grassy Nole Wrote:  Where is the Texas goes Indy option? I still feel that is more viable than most would like to admit

I left it out on purpose, because I don't think it's possible.
I also left out the one move that I think is most likely.....Texas joining the American as partial with Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU.
Tejas keeps the LHN, only plays the American teams it wants (they already have Tulsa, UCF and USF scheduled) but is able to get the American a pretty good jump in revenue.
It's as close to the SWC 2.0 as they will ever get and they are almost independent and still have a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in.

And here I thought that your position was that an "almost independent", with a good basketball and baseball league to play other sports in had no real value for the school in question.........

It doesn't matter Terry D. There's no way that T.C.U., Baylor, and Texas Tech are going to step down to the 3 million a year that the current AAC pays its members for media rights, and there is no way in hell that ESPN is going to bump all of the member schools of the AAC up to 35 million which is what the current Big 12 earns in T1 & T2 rights. And Texas isn't going to forfeit their larger revenue for T1 & T2 even in an adjusted AAC TV contract and they aren't giving up the LHN unless their combined TV revenue exceeds 51 million which is roughly want they earned this past year (50.8 million for all TV rights). Yes X is out of the box on this one and right into the "twilight zone".

JR:

I don't care about all of that. I just wanted to jibe XLance for his apparent inconsistencies........ :)

There are no inconsistencies, just prepared responses for the misinformation della giornata.