(04-20-2018 11:42 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Bottom line is Joe did his best while he was here

Joe is a working man...He didn't get a golden parachute like Tubby ($235,000 a year). So bagging on a guy who NEEDs another job for advertising his accomplishments is just wrong.

Pointing out a disingenuous post is "bagging" on someone?

(04-20-2018 11:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, no one in the industry references Composite.

Gary Parrish:
Nike officials on Wednesday acknowledged the existence of a new event in the Bahamas that CBS Sports detailed last week -- an event which sources told CBS Sports was created primarily to lure elite prospects away from the Under Armour Elite 24 game in New York...Ten of the 12 players involved are ranked in the top 10 of their respective class, according to the 247 Composite Rankings.

Jon Rothstein:
Originally a lauded prospect out of Philadelphia, Watkins arrived at Penn State as a four-star recruit. The 247 Composite ranked him as the nation’s No. 99 player overall, the No. 24 power forward in the country and No. 3 player in Pennsylvania from the 2015 cycle.

Giannotto:
Pastner immediately recruited Joe Jackson, Will Barton, Chris Crawford and Tarik Black. His first full recruiting season, he signed the 13th, 20th, 26th, 69th and 104th best players in the class, according to the composite ranking by 247 Sports.Indeed, over the next three years, Pastner signed seven more players that were in the top 100, including five top 100 players in the Class of 2013.That was just four years ago. That wasn’t the distant past.By contrast? Smith hasn’t yet signed a single high school player in the top 100, according to the 247 composite rankings. The highest, Jamal Johnson, was 159.

Matt Norlander:
Ayton's commitment to Zona will almost definitely ensure Miller, who reminded us yet again that he is an elite recruiter, winds up with a top-five class in 2017. U of A was No. 38 heading into the day on 247's composite, but now finds itself up to No. 9.

So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:42 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  Bottom line is Joe did his best while he was here

Joe is a working man...He didn't get a golden parachute like Tubby ($235,000 a year). So bagging on a guy who NEEDs another job for advertising his accomplishments is just wrong.

Pointing out a disingenuous post is "bagging" on someone?

Humble Brag...Your words...Clear as day you were running the guy down

What does that have to do with being disingenuous? Seems like you felt that was as bad as misrepresenting the facts (which he did not do)

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, no one in the industry references Composite.

So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

Exactly right, Macgar. Coach Joe was trying to complement the kid, Myreon Jones, for rising to #81. And for the 5th time, Coach Joe needs to quit tweeting Memphis stuff.

But as always, Saluki has to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else, quoting a ranking that Coach Joe was not even referencing.

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, no one in the industry references Composite.

Gary Parrish:
Nike officials on Wednesday acknowledged the existence of a new event in the Bahamas that CBS Sports detailed last week -- an event which sources told CBS Sports was created primarily to lure elite prospects away from the Under Armour Elite 24 game in New York...Ten of the 12 players involved are ranked in the top 10 of their respective class, according to the 247 Composite Rankings.

Jon Rothstein:
Originally a lauded prospect out of Philadelphia, Watkins arrived at Penn State as a four-star recruit. The 247 Composite ranked him as the nation’s No. 99 player overall, the No. 24 power forward in the country and No. 3 player in Pennsylvania from the 2015 cycle.

Giannotto:
Pastner immediately recruited Joe Jackson, Will Barton, Chris Crawford and Tarik Black. His first full recruiting season, he signed the 13th, 20th, 26th, 69th and 104th best players in the class, according to the composite ranking by 247 Sports.Indeed, over the next three years, Pastner signed seven more players that were in the top 100, including five top 100 players in the Class of 2013.That was just four years ago. That wasn’t the distant past.By contrast? Smith hasn’t yet signed a single high school player in the top 100, according to the 247 composite rankings. The highest, Jamal Johnson, was 159.

Matt Norlander:
Ayton's commitment to Zona will almost definitely ensure Miller, who reminded us yet again that he is an elite recruiter, winds up with a top-five class in 2017. U of A was No. 38 heading into the day on 247's composite, but now finds itself up to No. 9.

So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

I don't think anyone has a personal issue with Joe. Most of us appreciate the hard work he put in while he was here. I guess we all see that tweet differently. I am with Saluki here. That in my opinion was a tweet directed at Memphis fans. The biggest knock these guys heard while they were here was that they weren't landing 150 recruits, they weren't working hard (Other than Joe) and so on. He isn't just self promoting. He is taking a jab at Memphis. No other reason to tweet it the way he did if he didn't.

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, no one in the industry references Composite.

So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

Exactly right, Macgar. Coach Joe was trying to complement the kid, Myreon Jones, for rising to #81. But Saluki has to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else.

^ correct...

Like someone said, it's just spin.....but Joe certainly takes some creative license with this quote from his tweet -

"Ranked by @247 the one everyone talks about....."

because the 247 COMPOSITE is the one everyone talks about

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  Like someone said, it's just spin.....but Joe certainly takes some creative license with this quote from his tweet -

"Ranked by @247 the one everyone talks about....."

because the 247 COMPOSITE is the one everyone talks about

I can agree with this...

But read anyones resume and you will see tons of examples of people being a little creative with their wording.

Difference is you don't have a bunch of angry people looking over your shoulder to correct you.

(04-20-2018 11:49 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Saluki, Coach Joe was right. You were wrong. It's really simple.

And you look silly when you chase him around on Twitter.

Nope.

I'm 100% correct.

Fact.

Had he cooled his jets and just noted the 247 ranking without trying to go to 11, he would have been ok in that respect. BUT, by referencing the "the one everybody refers to"--which is the COMPOSITE ranking--(see sources in post above) he crossed from reality into fantasy.

It is that simple.

And as for chasing him around--I was one of the first people he followed when he came here. In fact he followed me before I ever followed him.

I responded with all of ONE retweet with him in a mention regarding this. That's all. So, if by "chasing him all around" is retweeting and quoting once, then, yes, I am guilty of being crazystalker.

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, no one in the industry references Composite.

So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

Exactly right, Macgar. Coach Joe was trying to complement the kid, Myreon Jones, for rising to #81. But Saluki has to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else.

Wrong.

If he were complimenting the kid he could have worded it differently.

Something like.

"So proud of Myreon Jones for working hard and moving up the rankings". The tweet was NOT focused on the kid. He mentioned the AAC and "would have been" mentions the rankings "Everyone is talking about". Says "interesting FACT". It was a jab at Memphis.

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, no one in the industry references Composite.

So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

Exactly right, Macgar. Coach Joe was trying to complement the kid, Myreon Jones, for rising to #81. But Saluki has to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else.

^ correct...

^ incorrect. Compliment the kid without the jab if his intention was just that.

(04-20-2018 11:57 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:49 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Saluki, Coach Joe was right. You were wrong. It's really simple.

And you look silly when you chase him around on Twitter.

Nope.

I'm 100% correct.

Fact.

I'm with Saluki on this one.

I'll take Jayden, Lomax, Harris, Maurice, Antwann Jones and chances at Dandridge, Watford, Antoine, Lewis, Lawson, and Wiseman for 2019.

over

Myreon Jones and Connor Vanover

/thread

(04-20-2018 11:57 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, no one in the industry references Composite.

So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

Exactly right, Macgar. Coach Joe was trying to complement the kid, Myreon Jones, for rising to #81. But Saluki has to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else.

Wrong.

If he were complimenting the kid he could have worded it differently.

Something like.

"So proud of Myreon Jones for working hard and moving up the rankings". The tweet was NOT focused on the kid. He mentioned the AAC and "would have been" mentions the rankings "Everyone is talking about". Says "interesting FACT". It was a jab at Memphis.

I can see how you would take it that way.

I see him as saying I committed the best player in the conference on the last job I was in.

If he was at UNC pulling the #81 player would mean very little as everyone would say anyone can get the #81 player at UNC...But when he compares it his previous schools peers (I know most are not our peers) it means more.

(04-20-2018 11:58 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, no one in the industry references Composite.

So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

Exactly right, Macgar. Coach Joe was trying to complement the kid, Myreon Jones, for rising to #81. But Saluki has to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else.

^ correct...

^ incorrect. Compliment the kid without the jab if his intention was just that.

is he supposed to be happy about losing his job? Joe's trying to find a gig so let him do his thing and just be happy for what we have.

some of y'all are just the definition of miserable...

(04-20-2018 11:59 AM)WColt45 Wrote:  I'll take Jayden, Lomax, Harris, Maurice, Antwann Jones and chances at Dandridge, Watford, Antoine, Lewis, Lawson, and Wiseman for 2019.

over

Myreon Jones and Connor Vanover

/thread

I doubt anyone anywhere would disagree with this.

(04-20-2018 11:59 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:57 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:49 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Saluki, Coach Joe was right. You were wrong. It's really simple.

And you look silly when you chase him around on Twitter.

Nope.

I'm 100% correct.

Fact.

UofMemphis, Saluki will never, ever admit he is wrong. Even when all one has to do is click the link, and see Myreon Jones at #81. It's just Saluki being Saluki.

(04-20-2018 12:00 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:58 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:54 AM)Tigx Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

Exactly right, Macgar. Coach Joe was trying to complement the kid, Myreon Jones, for rising to #81. But Saluki has to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else.

^ correct...

^ incorrect. Compliment the kid without the jab if his intention was just that.

is he supposed to be happy about losing his job? Joe's trying to find a gig so let him do his thing and just be happy for what we have.

some of y'all are just the definition of miserable...

No, some of us are happy with our new staff. Miserable is the first thing some of you go to when you have nothing else to say. Look at his tweet from April 19th. That is complimenting the kid. The tweet we are referring to is a jab at Memphis.

(04-20-2018 11:51 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-20-2018 11:47 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yeah, no one in the industry references Composite.

Gary Parrish:
Nike officials on Wednesday acknowledged the existence of a new event in the Bahamas that CBS Sports detailed last week -- an event which sources told CBS Sports was created primarily to lure elite prospects away from the Under Armour Elite 24 game in New York...Ten of the 12 players involved are ranked in the top 10 of their respective class, according to the 247 Composite Rankings.

Jon Rothstein:
Originally a lauded prospect out of Philadelphia, Watkins arrived at Penn State as a four-star recruit. The 247 Composite ranked him as the nation’s No. 99 player overall, the No. 24 power forward in the country and No. 3 player in Pennsylvania from the 2015 cycle.

Giannotto:
Pastner immediately recruited Joe Jackson, Will Barton, Chris Crawford and Tarik Black. His first full recruiting season, he signed the 13th, 20th, 26th, 69th and 104th best players in the class, according to the composite ranking by 247 Sports.Indeed, over the next three years, Pastner signed seven more players that were in the top 100, including five top 100 players in the Class of 2013.That was just four years ago. That wasn’t the distant past.By contrast? Smith hasn’t yet signed a single high school player in the top 100, according to the 247 composite rankings. The highest, Jamal Johnson, was 159.

Matt Norlander:
Ayton's commitment to Zona will almost definitely ensure Miller, who reminded us yet again that he is an elite recruiter, winds up with a top-five class in 2017. U of A was No. 38 heading into the day on 247's composite, but now finds itself up to No. 9.

So you only problem with his tweet is that he said "the one everyone talks about"?

Seems like you had a problem with him "humble Bragging" since you didn't know which one was worse.

Do I really chap your ass this badly? Seems the past few months you just gotta get at it.

I inferred from his tweet that he was pumping himself up while taking a jab at those who were dissatisfied with how recruiting went under the last staff.

His tweet was a twofold attempt to market himself and to do a little "ha-ha" at Memphis fans by TRYING to show that he recruited (what he CLAIMED) what would have been the highest rated player in the AAC had he not been let go.

Now, in order to make his claim, he cites 247 and then further buttresses his claim by referencing the rating as the gold standard--"the one everyone talks about" to lend credibility to the claim.

The major malfunction with that claim is that "the one everyone talks about" is the one that had Myreon at 167--well behind Antwann (100), Tyler (121), and Alex (142).

So, the WHOLE essence of the tweet is just straight up incorrect. So the question is, was Joe intentionally misleading or just that dumb? (now THAT would have been a mean tweet).