(04-23-2018 01:14 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Something to note: other than Lomax, we don’t have a true PG.

Still one more than we've had in a few years.

(04-23-2018 01:53 PM)rolexjames Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 01:43 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 10:58 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  You don't need to see him play.
Parrish has.
He says Jones will far and away be the best player on the floor for the Tigers.
That should be good enough for most Tiger fans.

I'll trust his opinion far more than yours.

Ask Parrish how many times he has seen him play-just came up on our radar recently

Gary is quoting what he heard from other college staffs that jones by far will be the most talented player on the team.

Yeah. GP has admitted many times that he doesn't follow recruiting that closely. I would be shocked if he has seen any of these guys play in HS or AAU.

(04-23-2018 02:35 PM)jamammy Wrote:  But as the season wears on and according to where we stand and who we are playing, a lineup of Lomax, Harris, Jones, Davenport, Parks Jr. could develop

I think this is the most likely, too. I like the 3 guard lineup, especially in our conference.

(04-23-2018 02:27 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 01:14 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Something to note: other than Lomax, we don’t have a true PG.

Still one more than we've had in a few years.

Just pointing out that it might not be a stretch (based on his skill set and our need) for Lomax to start from day 1. Someone mentioned it might take some time for Alex and Tyler to adjust to D1 ball. I don’t necessarily disagree; it may take some time. We’ll see.

(04-23-2018 02:35 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 10:46 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 10:48 PM)jamammy Wrote:  Too early to make predictions as we may add players before the season begins.

The starting lineup will likely change over the course of the season.

Lomax, Harris, Jones, Davenport, Parks jr. could develop.

Lomax, Brewton, Thornton, Davenport, Parks jr.

The lineups are intriguing.

And it ain't over.

I think we are winning a few this year.

Who is the comp so far?

Nowhere is your post do I see Martins name. The most ready to play, toughest and best defensive player on the team. Not only will he start, but he will get the most minutes at the 2-3 spots if healthy. I have not seen Jones play.

So, I started off by saying too early to make predictions then followed that with starting lineups will likely change over the course of the season.

Obviously, Martin is going to start.

I didn't mention Maurice either and he could be a starter.

But as the season wears on and according to where we stand and who we are playing, a lineup of Lomax, Harris, Jones, Davenport, Parks Jr. could develop

Martin could get hurt, the young guys could acclimate faster than we think, we may be out of contention for a post season so playing the younger guys to prepare for next year would make sense.

Who knows?

We could land two five stars and they might start.

When Martin sticks to his game of on the ball defense with that long wingspan and as off guard driving to the basket and open jumpers (not holding on to the ball), he in the best player on the team this year and will start.

(04-23-2018 02:58 PM)Shooters Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 02:35 PM)jamammy Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 10:46 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 10:48 PM)jamammy Wrote:  Too early to make predictions as we may add players before the season begins.

The starting lineup will likely change over the course of the season.

Lomax, Harris, Jones, Davenport, Parks jr. could develop.

Lomax, Brewton, Thornton, Davenport, Parks jr.

The lineups are intriguing.

And it ain't over.

I think we are winning a few this year.

Who is the comp so far?

Nowhere is your post do I see Martins name. The most ready to play, toughest and best defensive player on the team. Not only will he start, but he will get the most minutes at the 2-3 spots if healthy. I have not seen Jones play.

So, I started off by saying too early to make predictions then followed that with starting lineups will likely change over the course of the season.

Obviously, Martin is going to start.

I didn't mention Maurice either and he could be a starter.

But as the season wears on and according to where we stand and who we are playing, a lineup of Lomax, Harris, Jones, Davenport, Parks Jr. could develop

Martin could get hurt, the young guys could acclimate faster than we think, we may be out of contention for a post season so playing the younger guys to prepare for next year would make sense.

Who knows?

We could land two five stars and they might start.

When Martin sticks to his game of on the ball defense with that long wingspan and as off guard driving to the basket and open jumpers (not holding on to the ball), he in the best player on the team this year and will start.

I'll bet Martin is looking forward to NOT having to play the point.

(04-23-2018 02:41 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 02:27 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 01:14 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Something to note: other than Lomax, we don’t have a true PG.

Still one more than we've had in a few years.

Just pointing out that it might not be a stretch (based on his skill set and our need) for Lomax to start from day 1. Someone mentioned it might take some time for Alex and Tyler to adjust to D1 ball. I don’t necessarily disagree; it may take some time. We’ll see.

Totally agree. Alex will get starter minutes all year - whether he starts or not.

(04-23-2018 01:13 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 11:29 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  As of today, the most likely starting group is Lomax, Martin, Jones, Davenport, and Parks with Harris, Thornton, and possibly Maurice getting the bulk of the minutes off the bench. Brewton should get minutes in spots, but if he is getting a lot of minutes, that probably means Lomax or Harris are having troubles adjusting to the college game, or one of those two or Martin are injured.

But we don't even know what the full roster situation looks like, so...

Harris and Lomax are both undersized, 100-150 ranked freshman guards. They are going to have a significant learning curve. To expect much from them, especially the first half of the season is a little unreasonable to me. Brewton is still going to see a lot of minutes, as he should.

Brewton likely will see a lot of minutes but if his ball handling and ability to break pressure has not improved he will not start at the point.

(04-23-2018 10:58 AM)Pastnerized Wrote:  You don't need to see him play.
Parrish has.
He says Jones will far and away be the best player on the floor for the Tigers.
That should be good enough for most Tiger fans.

I'll trust his opinion far more than yours.

Because perrish is a sports writer he becomes a basketball expert?

I'll wait to see how it shakes out.

(04-23-2018 11:29 AM)Briskbas Wrote:  As of today, the most likely starting group is Lomax, Martin, Jones, Davenport, and Parks with Harris, Thornton, and possibly Maurice getting the bulk of the minutes off the bench. Brewton should get minutes in spots, but if he is getting a lot of minutes, that probably means Lomax or Harris are having troubles adjusting to the college game, or one of those two or Martin are injured.

But we don't even know what the full roster situation looks like, so...

Yep. Agree with this.

I am curious what peoples expectations are with this current roster.

I understand people felt Pastner wasn't a great coach but he had at least 4 (Most years 5) guys rated higher than anyone on this team this coming year.

I think to expect going to the tourney based on our recruiting class would be unfair.

(04-24-2018 08:02 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  I am curious what peoples expectations are with this current roster.

I understand people felt Pastner wasn't a great coach but he had at least 4 (Most years 5) guys rated higher than anyone on this team this coming year.

I think to expect going to the tourney based on our recruiting class would be unfair.

You have a great point. Josh was left a better roster and had a weaker CUSA to deal with. People expectations come from the fact AAC should be down. But it we sniffed the N.I.T. I wouldn't be disappointed, but I do like the fact that Penny would.

I found something interest on the University School Paper site. Here's the record for the 1st two years of all U of M coaches. Where do we think/want Penny to rank on this list?

(04-24-2018 08:02 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  I am curious what peoples expectations are with this current roster.

I understand people felt Pastner wasn't a great coach but he had at least 4 (Most years 5) guys rated higher than anyone on this team this coming year.

I think to expect going to the tourney based on our recruiting class would be unfair.

Remember we have the AAC tourney at the FedEx Forum next March.

Wonder if the AAC office is regretting giving Ft. Worth the tournament for the 3 years after that?

(04-24-2018 08:02 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  I am curious what peoples expectations are with this current roster.

I understand people felt Pastner wasn't a great coach but he had at least 4 (Most years 5) guys rated higher than anyone on this team this coming year.

I think to expect going to the tourney based on our recruiting class would be unfair.

I think the roster is not settled, and it could be final big pieces. Just based on the smoke that's out there.

Based upon the roster currently with maybe one more grad transfer add or big recruit...I've been thinking about this and I sort of compare it to Pastner's second year. He had a few experienced players in Witherspoon and Coleman. Then he added some key young foundation building players. I think that's where we are now. We just need that final big add to compare to Will Barton (maybe Jones is it).

That year we struggled in CUSA before the nice run through the conference tourney to qualify for the NCAA. The AAC is better than CUSA, so we may take some lumps. But NIT is certainly reasonable. Right now.

Will we have more talent than last year? I think so. BUT our schedule will be harder. Bubble team?

(04-24-2018 02:20 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  Will we have more talent than last year? I think so. BUT our schedule will be harder. Bubble team?

OOC maybe. We just need to do real well in the conference which should be down. If we are top 3 we should easily be in. I think we will be top 2.

(04-24-2018 01:46 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 08:02 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  I am curious what peoples expectations are with this current roster.

I understand people felt Pastner wasn't a great coach but he had at least 4 (Most years 5) guys rated higher than anyone on this team this coming year.

I think to expect going to the tourney based on our recruiting class would be unfair.

I think the roster is not settled, and it could be final big pieces. Just based on the smoke that's out there.

Based upon the roster currently with maybe one more grad transfer add or big recruit...I've been thinking about this and I sort of compare it to Pastner's second year. He had a few experienced players in Witherspoon and Coleman. Then he added some key young foundation building players. I think that's where we are now. We just need that final big add to compare to Will Barton (maybe Jones is it).

That year we struggled in CUSA before the nice run through the conference tourney to qualify for the NCAA. The AAC is better than CUSA, so we may take some lumps. But NIT is certainly reasonable. Right now.

Pastner added 4 top 100 guys to that squad...2 top 20 guys.

If we can add Wiseman or a similar talent I would say it is comparable. But Penny would have to perform much better managing/coaching that talent in his first year than Pastner did in order to sniff an at large in the AAC.

(04-24-2018 05:02 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 02:20 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  Will we have more talent than last year? I think so. BUT our schedule will be harder. Bubble team?

OOC maybe. We just need to do real well in the conference which should be down. If we are top 3 we should easily be in. I think we will be top 2.

You guys do realize that recruiting is not even over yet, there will be transfers either in or out (or both) and y'all are putting us in very precise places in the conference standings. Carnac.

(04-24-2018 10:15 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 01:46 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 08:02 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  I am curious what peoples expectations are with this current roster.

I understand people felt Pastner wasn't a great coach but he had at least 4 (Most years 5) guys rated higher than anyone on this team this coming year.

I think to expect going to the tourney based on our recruiting class would be unfair.

I think the roster is not settled, and it could be final big pieces. Just based on the smoke that's out there.

Based upon the roster currently with maybe one more grad transfer add or big recruit...I've been thinking about this and I sort of compare it to Pastner's second year. He had a few experienced players in Witherspoon and Coleman. Then he added some key young foundation building players. I think that's where we are now. We just need that final big add to compare to Will Barton (maybe Jones is it).

That year we struggled in CUSA before the nice run through the conference tourney to qualify for the NCAA. The AAC is better than CUSA, so we may take some lumps. But NIT is certainly reasonable. Right now.

Pastner added 4 top 100 guys to that squad...2 top 20 guys.

If we can add Wiseman or a similar talent I would say it is comparable. But Penny would have to perform much better managing/coaching that talent in his first year than Pastner did in order to sniff an at large in the AAC.

All we have to do is finish in the top three (and I think we will) and we’ll get an at large bid.

(04-24-2018 02:20 PM)tigerjamesc Wrote:  Will we have more talent than last year? I think so. BUT our schedule will be harder. Bubble team?

What this book presupposes is...maybe he didn't?