(04-22-2018 05:25 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 04:11 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  RE Dabo to Alabama: IIRC, Dabo played for Stallings, the last of the Bear Bryant proteges.
So much has changed since Saban arrived, I'm not sure Dabo even recognizes the place.
That said, I have absolutely NO idea if we will ever coach there.

Dabo did play for Stallings and walked on at that. Played for the 92 championship team and even took time out of his schedule during this past football season to attend the 25th anniversary celebration of that team. Clemson played on a Friday night I believe and Dabo was in Tuscaloosa the next day for the Bama game.

He was also an assistant here for a while.

Things have certainly changed since then, but I don't know that that would keep him away. I'm not saying he would definitely take the job, but he would consider it.

It would almost be insane not to. The average person would be willing to completely uproot their entire life/family for a $15,000 pay increase.

Dabo would become the highest paid coach in college football. He would have access to an insane level of 4-5 star recruits. He would have an extremely high budget for assistant coaches. And he would have arguably the best fan base in the country.

Not to mention a home in Tuscaloosa is dirt cheap. You can get a mansion for 1.5 million dollars. Lol, 1.5 million in my hometown (San Francisco) will get you a piece of junk.

(04-23-2018 12:07 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(04-22-2018 05:25 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(04-21-2018 04:11 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  RE Dabo to Alabama: IIRC, Dabo played for Stallings, the last of the Bear Bryant proteges.
So much has changed since Saban arrived, I'm not sure Dabo even recognizes the place.
That said, I have absolutely NO idea if we will ever coach there.

Dabo did play for Stallings and walked on at that. Played for the 92 championship team and even took time out of his schedule during this past football season to attend the 25th anniversary celebration of that team. Clemson played on a Friday night I believe and Dabo was in Tuscaloosa the next day for the Bama game.

He was also an assistant here for a while.

Things have certainly changed since then, but I don't know that that would keep him away. I'm not saying he would definitely take the job, but he would consider it.

It would almost be insane not to. The average person would be willing to completely uproot their entire life/family for a $15,000 pay increase.

Dabo would become the highest paid coach in college football. He would have access to an insane level of 4-5 star recruits. He would have an extremely high budget for assistant coaches. And he would have arguably the best fan base in the country.

Not to mention a home in Tuscaloosa is dirt cheap. You can get a mansion for 1.5 million dollars. Lol, 1.5 million in my hometown (San Francisco) will get you a piece of junk.

More importantly he would be a shoe in for the Dollarhide Hunting Club. You have to be a male from Alabama to appreciate this.

Details of the ND/Alabama contract being reported:

"The five-page document spells out the particulars of the games set for 2028 in South Bend and 2029 in Tuscaloosa.

They will exchange $1 million payments from the host to the visitor, according to the contract obtained through an open records request. Alabama has received as much as $6 million for non-conference games played at neutral sites in recent seasons.

Each school will get 5,000 tickets to sell for the road game. Tickets will not be required for visiting bands or cheerleaders.

The TV rights for the games will belong to the home teams. Notre Dame currently has a contract with NBC that runs through the 2025 season.

There are also a number of provisions about the cancellation of the two-game series. It may be called off if the number of conference games required change (both the SEC 8 game schedule and/or the 5 game ACC agreement), "an act of God," war, terrorism, civil unrest or court order comes before Jan. 1, 2020. There's also a provision involving "discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form ..." or change of conference affiliation.

If one school breaks the contract for any reasons not listed, it must pay $750,000 if received two or more years before the game -- $1.5 million if its less than two years and more than one and $3 million in the final year before kickoff."


"http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2018/04/details_of_alabama-notre_dame.html

(04-23-2018 09:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Details of the ND/Alabama contract being reported:

"The five-page document spells out the particulars of the games set for 2028 in South Bend and 2029 in Tuscaloosa.

They will exchange $1 million payments from the host to the visitor, according to the contract obtained through an open records request. Alabama has received as much as $6 million for non-conference games played at neutral sites in recent seasons.

Each school will get 5,000 tickets to sell for the road game. Tickets will not be required for visiting bands or cheerleaders.

The TV rights for the games will belong to the home teams. Notre Dame currently has a contract with NBC that runs through the 2025 season.

There are also a number of provisions about the cancellation of the two-game series. It may be called off if the number of conference games required change (both the SEC 8 game schedule and/or the 5 game ACC agreement), "an act of God," war, terrorism, civil unrest or court order comes before Jan. 1, 2020. There's also a provision involving "discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form ..." or change of conference affiliation.

If one school breaks the contract for any reasons not listed, it must pay $750,000 if received two or more years before the game -- $1.5 million if its less than two years and more than one and $3 million in the final year before kickoff."


"http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2018/04/details_of_alabama-notre_dame.html

That's a nice, but fairly standard with noticeable exceptions. "Discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form, or change of conference affiliation" kind of stand out and are indicative of the transient nature of things as they are now.

(04-23-2018 10:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 09:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Details of the ND/Alabama contract being reported:

"The five-page document spells out the particulars of the games set for 2028 in South Bend and 2029 in Tuscaloosa.

They will exchange $1 million payments from the host to the visitor, according to the contract obtained through an open records request. Alabama has received as much as $6 million for non-conference games played at neutral sites in recent seasons.

Each school will get 5,000 tickets to sell for the road game. Tickets will not be required for visiting bands or cheerleaders.

The TV rights for the games will belong to the home teams. Notre Dame currently has a contract with NBC that runs through the 2025 season.

There are also a number of provisions about the cancellation of the two-game series. It may be called off if the number of conference games required change (both the SEC 8 game schedule and/or the 5 game ACC agreement), "an act of God," war, terrorism, civil unrest or court order comes before Jan. 1, 2020. There's also a provision involving "discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form ..." or change of conference affiliation.

If one school breaks the contract for any reasons not listed, it must pay $750,000 if received two or more years before the game -- $1.5 million if its less than two years and more than one and $3 million in the final year before kickoff."


"http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2018/04/details_of_alabama-notre_dame.html

That's a nice, but fairly standard with noticeable exceptions. "Discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form, or change of conference affiliation" kind of stand out and are indicative of the transient nature of things as they are now.

Two of the biggest programs in college football, one of them located in the NCAA's home state, are putting clauses in their game contracts referencing "discontinuance of the NCAA" as a real possibility.

Nothing to see here, please disperse, nothing to see here...

(04-23-2018 11:09 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 10:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 09:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Details of the ND/Alabama contract being reported:

"The five-page document spells out the particulars of the games set for 2028 in South Bend and 2029 in Tuscaloosa.

They will exchange $1 million payments from the host to the visitor, according to the contract obtained through an open records request. Alabama has received as much as $6 million for non-conference games played at neutral sites in recent seasons.

Each school will get 5,000 tickets to sell for the road game. Tickets will not be required for visiting bands or cheerleaders.

The TV rights for the games will belong to the home teams. Notre Dame currently has a contract with NBC that runs through the 2025 season.

There are also a number of provisions about the cancellation of the two-game series. It may be called off if the number of conference games required change (both the SEC 8 game schedule and/or the 5 game ACC agreement), "an act of God," war, terrorism, civil unrest or court order comes before Jan. 1, 2020. There's also a provision involving "discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form ..." or change of conference affiliation.

If one school breaks the contract for any reasons not listed, it must pay $750,000 if received two or more years before the game -- $1.5 million if its less than two years and more than one and $3 million in the final year before kickoff."


"http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2018/04/details_of_alabama-notre_dame.html

That's a nice, but fairly standard with noticeable exceptions. "Discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form, or change of conference affiliation" kind of stand out and are indicative of the transient nature of things as they are now.

Two of the biggest programs in college football, one of them located in the NCAA's home state, are putting clauses in their game contracts referencing "discontinuance of the NCAA" as a real possibility.

Nothing to see here, please disperse, nothing to see here...

And I just thought that those weren't the droids I was looking for! Wow!

(04-23-2018 11:09 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 10:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 09:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Details of the ND/Alabama contract being reported:

"The five-page document spells out the particulars of the games set for 2028 in South Bend and 2029 in Tuscaloosa.

They will exchange $1 million payments from the host to the visitor, according to the contract obtained through an open records request. Alabama has received as much as $6 million for non-conference games played at neutral sites in recent seasons.

Each school will get 5,000 tickets to sell for the road game. Tickets will not be required for visiting bands or cheerleaders.

The TV rights for the games will belong to the home teams. Notre Dame currently has a contract with NBC that runs through the 2025 season.

There are also a number of provisions about the cancellation of the two-game series. It may be called off if the number of conference games required change (both the SEC 8 game schedule and/or the 5 game ACC agreement), "an act of God," war, terrorism, civil unrest or court order comes before Jan. 1, 2020. There's also a provision involving "discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form ..." or change of conference affiliation.

If one school breaks the contract for any reasons not listed, it must pay $750,000 if received two or more years before the game -- $1.5 million if its less than two years and more than one and $3 million in the final year before kickoff."


"http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2018/04/details_of_alabama-notre_dame.html

That's a nice, but fairly standard with noticeable exceptions. "Discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form, or change of conference affiliation" kind of stand out and are indicative of the transient nature of things as they are now.

Two of the biggest programs in college football, one of them located in the NCAA's home state, are putting clauses in their game contracts referencing "discontinuance of the NCAA" as a real possibility.

Nothing to see here, please disperse, nothing to see here...

Heck, I thought one was just a faded brand...

Sorry, just messing with you, Wedge.

I agree that the language is interesting.

(04-24-2018 06:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 11:09 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 10:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 09:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Details of the ND/Alabama contract being reported:

"The five-page document spells out the particulars of the games set for 2028 in South Bend and 2029 in Tuscaloosa.

They will exchange $1 million payments from the host to the visitor, according to the contract obtained through an open records request. Alabama has received as much as $6 million for non-conference games played at neutral sites in recent seasons.

Each school will get 5,000 tickets to sell for the road game. Tickets will not be required for visiting bands or cheerleaders.

The TV rights for the games will belong to the home teams. Notre Dame currently has a contract with NBC that runs through the 2025 season.

There are also a number of provisions about the cancellation of the two-game series. It may be called off if the number of conference games required change (both the SEC 8 game schedule and/or the 5 game ACC agreement), "an act of God," war, terrorism, civil unrest or court order comes before Jan. 1, 2020. There's also a provision involving "discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form ..." or change of conference affiliation.

If one school breaks the contract for any reasons not listed, it must pay $750,000 if received two or more years before the game -- $1.5 million if its less than two years and more than one and $3 million in the final year before kickoff."


"http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2018/04/details_of_alabama-notre_dame.html

That's a nice, but fairly standard with noticeable exceptions. "Discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form, or change of conference affiliation" kind of stand out and are indicative of the transient nature of things as they are now.

Two of the biggest programs in college football, one of them located in the NCAA's home state, are putting clauses in their game contracts referencing "discontinuance of the NCAA" as a real possibility.

Nothing to see here, please disperse, nothing to see here... :coffee3:

Heck, I thought one was just a faded brand... :stirthepot:

Sorry, just messing with you, Wedge.

I agree that the language is interesting.

Terry you and I know Jenkins has stated that we will not be a part of a minor league type system. Therefore, I believe this could be ND putting a provision in case we drop out of a system that pays players.

(04-19-2018 02:32 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Games at ND in 2028 and at Alabama in 2029.


https://rolltide.com/news/2018/4/19/foot...eries.aspx

Good luck North Dakota..

(04-24-2018 06:41 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 06:30 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 11:09 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 10:40 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 09:38 PM)TerryD Wrote:  Details of the ND/Alabama contract being reported:

"The five-page document spells out the particulars of the games set for 2028 in South Bend and 2029 in Tuscaloosa.

They will exchange $1 million payments from the host to the visitor, according to the contract obtained through an open records request. Alabama has received as much as $6 million for non-conference games played at neutral sites in recent seasons.

Each school will get 5,000 tickets to sell for the road game. Tickets will not be required for visiting bands or cheerleaders.

The TV rights for the games will belong to the home teams. Notre Dame currently has a contract with NBC that runs through the 2025 season.

There are also a number of provisions about the cancellation of the two-game series. It may be called off if the number of conference games required change (both the SEC 8 game schedule and/or the 5 game ACC agreement), "an act of God," war, terrorism, civil unrest or court order comes before Jan. 1, 2020. There's also a provision involving "discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form ..." or change of conference affiliation.

If one school breaks the contract for any reasons not listed, it must pay $750,000 if received two or more years before the game -- $1.5 million if its less than two years and more than one and $3 million in the final year before kickoff."


"http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2018/04/details_of_alabama-notre_dame.html

That's a nice, but fairly standard with noticeable exceptions. "Discontinuance of the NCAA in its current form, or change of conference affiliation" kind of stand out and are indicative of the transient nature of things as they are now.

Two of the biggest programs in college football, one of them located in the NCAA's home state, are putting clauses in their game contracts referencing "discontinuance of the NCAA" as a real possibility.

Nothing to see here, please disperse, nothing to see here...

Heck, I thought one was just a faded brand...

Sorry, just messing with you, Wedge.

I agree that the language is interesting.

Terry you and I know Jenkins has stated that we will not be a part of a minor league type system. Therefore, I believe this could be ND putting a provision in case we drop out of a system that pays players.

Controlled implosion.
I could see a situation where the majority of the ACC plus Vanderbilt, Northwestern and Notre Dame could operate outside of the two big paying conferences and utilize the ACCN as a source of TV income (not at the B1G or SEC levels, but adaquate).
You would then have a 12 team league in the west and a 12 team league in the east that for what ever reason chose not to pay players and two larger leagues in the center that would.
Interesting language in that contract.

So they can schedule a home and home that's more than a decade out but they can't play UCF in a home and home ?

Well then, guess Alabama won't be shutting us up then....

(04-19-2018 03:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  What? Bama is gonna travel that far north? That has to be a first.

Sure it will be in early September

(04-24-2018 09:37 AM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  So they can schedule a home and home that's more than a decade out but they can't play UCF in a home and home ?

Well then, guess Alabama won't be shutting us up then....

Maybe one day you'll have a relevant program and then we'll consider a home and home.

Until then, you might want to worry about losing your coaches to better jobs.

(04-24-2018 01:51 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 09:37 AM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  So they can schedule a home and home that's more than a decade out but they can't play UCF in a home and home ?

Well then, guess Alabama won't be shutting us up then....

Maybe one day you'll have a relevant program and then we'll consider a home and home.

Until then, you might want to worry about losing your coaches to better jobs.

Bama and UCF don't need to play 2 games anyway. Maybe 1 game in Jacksonville or Atlanta, but more likely 1 and done in Tuscaloosa.

Swofford, the next time you ask Note Dame to commit to full-time ACC football, and you are told that can't be done because of severe scheduling limitations; point to things such as this.

(04-25-2018 09:06 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Swofford, the next time you ask Note Dame to commit to full-time ACC football, and you are told that can't be done because of severe scheduling limitations; point to things such as this.

ND wants to stay independent so it CAN schedule like this, with home/home series recently set or played with Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Texas A&M, Alabama, etc...

An eight or nine game conference schedule, plus annual games with Southern Cal, Navy and Stanford (which ND will never voluntarily jettison), would leave little room for these kind of series.

ND also "takes the show on the road" by moving one home game a year to San Antonio, Orlando, New York, Chicago, Arlington, TX, Landover, MD, Boston, Indianapolis, etc...with annual "Shamrock Series" games.

ND simply wants to stay independent. It gives Notre Dame the scheduling flexibility that it thinks serves it best.

Having John Swofford "point out" that ND scheduled a series with Alabama ten years out is not going to make any impact on ND's status.

(04-24-2018 01:51 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 09:37 AM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  So they can schedule a home and home that's more than a decade out but they can't play UCF in a home and home ?

Well then, guess Alabama won't be shutting us up then....

Maybe one day you'll have a relevant program and then we'll consider a home and home.

Until then, you might want to worry about losing your coaches to better jobs.

Didn't UCF beat the team (Auburn) that beat Alabama last year. Didn't Auburn also beat Georgia too. So that means UCF beat the number 1 and number 2 teams in the country last year. I'd say that makes UCF relevant.

(04-25-2018 09:49 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-25-2018 09:06 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Swofford, the next time you ask Note Dame to commit to full-time ACC football, and you are told that can't be done because of severe scheduling limitations; point to things such as this.

ND wants to stay independent so it CAN schedule like this, with home/home series recently set or played with Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Texas A&M, Alabama, etc...

An eight or nine game conference schedule, plus annual games with Southern Cal, Navy and Stanford (which ND will never voluntarily jettison), would leave little room for these kind of series.

ND also "takes the show on the road" by moving one home game a year to San Antonio, Orlando, New York, Chicago, Arlington, TX, Landover, MD, Boston, Indianapolis, etc...with annual "Shamrock Series" games.

ND simply wants to stay independent. It gives Notre Dame the scheduling flexibility that it thinks serves it best.

Having John Swofford "point out" that ND scheduled a series with Alabama ten years out is not going to make any impact on ND's status.

Of course you are correct. It is a pleasure unshared. ACC is the newer enabler; but if they have expectations beyond the status quo, they are delusional.

I don't blame Notre Dame taking advantage of the options.

(04-19-2018 06:54 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(04-19-2018 05:45 PM)The Grassy Nole Wrote:  

(04-19-2018 04:03 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(04-19-2018 03:15 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  We will be well into the Dabo era by then...

Maybe, but the longer Dabo stays at Clemson, the less reason he will ever have to move to Alabama.

Call me crazy but I can see Dabo as a lifer. He wears his heart on his sleeve and he would continue to be immortal there. He already reached the pinnacle so he can probably do it again (prob this upcoming season). Why would he leave? Outside the obvious of being money whipped of course.

Dabo's story and past are tied deeply with UA. There is only one move for him that would be an upgrade. That's to go home.

Not enough reason to follow a legend, if already creating a legend of your own. Home is Clemson now for Dabo and likely will be for the rest of his days IMO.